Romanian Military History Forum - Part of Romanian Army in the Second World War Website



Pages: (3) 1 [2] 3   ( Go to first unread post ) Reply to this topicStart new topicStart Poll

> JAS 39 for Rumania, foolow up Next Gen. Fighter contest
AlexC
Posted: March 23, 2006 04:49 pm
Quote Post


Fruntas
*

Group: Members
Posts: 75
Member No.: 786
Joined: January 19, 2006



There is no clear definition but here is an "unofficial" sheme
http://www.aerospaceweb.org/question/history/q0182.shtml
PMEmail Poster
Top
Zayets
Posted: March 24, 2006 08:30 am
Quote Post


Plutonier adjutant
*

Group: Members
Posts: 363
Member No.: 504
Joined: February 15, 2005



AFM and CA gives this month as sure thing the 150m deal to buy a 2nd hand F16 squadron from Israel. I wonder what a squadron means.24 planes?
PMEmail PosterUsers Website
Top
Iamandi
Posted: March 24, 2006 10:37 am
Quote Post


General de divizie
*

Group: Members
Posts: 1386
Member No.: 319
Joined: August 04, 2004



This day i received two mails from aviatia.ro (a romanian aviation forum, in romanian language-for who don't know yet about this one) with this "header": "Will Israel's New Trainers Come From Romania?"

This two links say much better what is the subject:

http://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/2005/1...srael/index.php

http://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/2005/1...dated/index.php

Iama
PMUsers WebsiteYahoo
Top
tomcat1974
Posted: March 24, 2006 04:52 pm
Quote Post


Plutonier
*

Group: Members
Posts: 263
Member No.: 427
Joined: December 20, 2004



Iamandi we are not that lucky....
PMEmail Poster
Top
Zayets
Posted: March 24, 2006 05:59 pm
Quote Post


Plutonier adjutant
*

Group: Members
Posts: 363
Member No.: 504
Joined: February 15, 2005



Lucky in which way? JSF? Gripen? Because the article leads to some 2nd hand F16.
PMEmail PosterUsers Website
Top
tomcat1974
Posted: March 27, 2006 09:00 am
Quote Post


Plutonier
*

Group: Members
Posts: 263
Member No.: 427
Joined: December 20, 2004



About selling trainer planes to Israel...
PMEmail Poster
Top
Imperialist
Posted: March 29, 2006 12:08 pm
Quote Post


General de armata
*

Group: Members
Posts: 2399
Member No.: 499
Joined: February 09, 2005



QUOTE (AlexC @ Mar 23 2006, 01:26 PM)
And if we really have to buy F-16s then it should be the block 60 that are far more capable than any Israeli upgraded F-16A with the highly capable APG-80 AESA radar but on the other hand those are very expensive.

According to a December article of edefense, the contract to buy and upgrade F16A/Bs will be only a supplement to a later deal to buy F16C/Ds.


--------------------
I
PM
Top
Zayets
Posted: March 29, 2006 04:59 pm
Quote Post


Plutonier adjutant
*

Group: Members
Posts: 363
Member No.: 504
Joined: February 15, 2005



Yup, apparently we should accept the idea that there are not so much money to re-equip RoAF. F16 comes in handy and the price is good. Afterall we can still sell these 29s to make an extra buck. I wonder what are the rationales behind the decision to preserve them? I know few countries eager to buy them for good money smile.gif
PMEmail PosterUsers Website
Top
Iamandi
Posted: March 30, 2006 06:33 am
Quote Post


General de divizie
*

Group: Members
Posts: 1386
Member No.: 319
Joined: August 04, 2004



For example Venezuela, if US let us to sell to them...

Iama
PMUsers WebsiteYahoo
Top
Imperialist
Posted: March 30, 2006 06:44 am
Quote Post


General de armata
*

Group: Members
Posts: 2399
Member No.: 499
Joined: February 09, 2005



QUOTE (Iamandi @ Mar 30 2006, 06:33 AM)
For example Venezuela, if US let us to sell to them...

Iama

They shouldnt make any objection, since others do business with Venezuela too:

http://www.edefenseonline.com/default.asp?...3_28_2006_OM_01


--------------------
I
PM
Top
AlexC
Posted: March 30, 2006 09:42 pm
Quote Post


Fruntas
*

Group: Members
Posts: 75
Member No.: 786
Joined: January 19, 2006



Tomcat, what do you think about the F/A-18E Block II (AESA) Super Bug? it's projected to cost just 40mil $

"Predictably, Boeing foresaw the prospect of a JSF loss, and has been improving the F/A-18E/F program as much as possible. It is adding a new active electronically scanned array (AESA) radar into the design, and implementing a cost-cutting campaign. In September 2001, it announced a redesign of the forward fuselage to accommodate the new APG-79 AESA radar and other new systems while simultaneously reducing production costs. The objective price of a Block 2 F/A-18E/F with AESA is now $40 million, a reduction of over $10 million from today’s price."

http://www.aiaa.org/aerospace/Article.cfm?...chiveIssueID=23

PMEmail Poster
Top
AlexC
Posted: March 30, 2006 09:51 pm
Quote Post


Fruntas
*

Group: Members
Posts: 75
Member No.: 786
Joined: January 19, 2006



user posted image

user posted image

More here: http://photos.airliners.net

And the block III Super Hornet is supposed to be stealthier than the EF2000 or Rafale.

[edited by admin]

This post has been edited by Victor on March 31, 2006 06:14 am
PMEmail Poster
Top
AlexC
Posted: March 30, 2006 10:55 pm
Quote Post


Fruntas
*

Group: Members
Posts: 75
Member No.: 786
Joined: January 19, 2006



user posted image

Source: http://photos.airliners.net

With its AN/APG-79 AESA radar it should be second to none at BVR, it's a true 4.5 gen aircraft and it also carries an imense a2g and a2a payload and all of this at just $40mil!

[edited by admin]

This post has been edited by Victor on March 31, 2006 06:14 am
PMEmail Poster
Top
Victor
Posted: March 31, 2006 06:17 am
Quote Post


Admin
Group Icon

Group: Admin
Posts: 4350
Member No.: 3
Joined: February 11, 2003



AlexC, the excessive posting of images from one website is forbidden according to the forum guidelines. Those who want to see more photos can follow your link and see them at the source, especially since they are very large.
PMEmail PosterUsers Website
Top
tomcat1974
Posted: March 31, 2006 07:01 am
Quote Post


Plutonier
*

Group: Members
Posts: 263
Member No.: 427
Joined: December 20, 2004



AlexC ...now you[re talking .. smile.gif

It would be one of my first picks. I always liked Naval Planes . Also twin engine ..we won't lost many planes to bird ingestion in the only engine.

SO the new plane must be US made (sorry but most advanced weapons came from US, european weapon integration can be done in US planes , EU is wiling to provide support for that, US usually don't )

Also Eurofighter might be handy.
PMEmail Poster
Top
0 User(s) are reading this topic (0 Guests and 0 Anonymous Users)
0 Members:

Topic Options Pages: (3) 1 [2] 3  Reply to this topicStart new topicStart Poll

 






[ Script Execution time: 0.0096 ]   [ 14 queries used ]   [ GZIP Enabled ]