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> "Dorobanti" & "Vanatori"
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Posted: July 14, 2003 04:33 pm
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ok, what was the difference between these two types of infantry?

PS I'm not referring to mountain hunters in the second
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Posted: July 18, 2003 08:29 pm
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Good question. I'd also like to know how the following regiments/groups were created and what exactly they meant:

Rosiori
Dorobanti
Calarasi

Did each division have a Rosiori Regiment or was there a single one in the entire Army? Same questions for the other two designations.
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Posted: July 19, 2003 10:46 am
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Dorobanti and vanatori are 19th century remnants, a military tradition if you want.
The dorobanti were the territorial infantry, while the vanatori were the elite of the regular infantry. However, by the beginning of the 20th century, the only difference between them was the name.

The same for rosiori and calarasi. Rosiori were the 19th century regular cavalry, while calarasi were the territorial cavalry.
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Posted: November 04, 2004 11:33 am
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QUOTE (Victor @ Jul 19 2003, 10:46 AM)
Dorobanti and vanatori are 19th century remnants, a military tradition if you want.
The dorobanti were the territorial infantry, while the vanatori were the elite of the regular infantry. However, by the beginning of the 20th century, the only difference between them was the name.

The same for rosiori and calarasi. Rosiori were the 19th century regular cavalry, while calarasi were the territorial cavalry.



We may say about dorobanti it haves aome activitys like todays gendarms? Like, if a thief was hunted, were dorobanti used, or activity of take the conscripts to service.

Do anyone have details about "luatul cu arcanul"?
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Posted: November 04, 2004 08:48 pm
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Not exactly like today's gendarmerie, more like the pre-WW2 gendarmerie. The dorobanti and the calarasi, at the time of the Independence War, also had police duties in the rural areas (the urban areas were covered by the civic guards). In fact the term curcan (=turkey) related to policemen is owed to the dorobanti. Their less military look (some where even accompanied by wives and kids in the camps) attracted this nickname from the regular army units. Because of their police duties, the nickname was transferred later to the policemen. The gendarmes at the time of the Independence War were the elite units entrusted with guarding the prince.

At the time of the Independence War, the military service was better organized and such activities, like forcibly taking recruits from the villages were not necessary. In fact the dorobanti only served one out of four weeks, so it wasn't that demanding.
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