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> A list of Romanian ships captured by Soviets in 1944
Dr_V
Posted: June 24, 2004 11:12 pm
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The list of Romanian ships captured by the Soviets in 1944:


1) At Constanta harbor on September 5th:

Destroyers:
- Regina Maria
- Regele Ferdinand - undergoing repairs (heavy damaged by bombs on 20.08.’44)
- Marasti
- Marasesti

Torpedo boats:
- Zmeul
- Zborul

Gunboats:
- Dumitrescu
- Ghiculescu
- Stihi Eugen

Minelayer: Adm. Murgescu – damaged by bombs from 21.08.’44

Submarines depot ship: Constanta

Submarines:
- Delfinul (at Corabia 19.09) – undergoing general repairs
- Rechinul (Constanta harbor 5.09)
- Marsuinul (Constanta harbor 5.09)

MTB (speedboats):
- Viscolul – damaged by bombs 20.08.’44
- Vedenia – out of duty with mechanical problems
- Vantul - out of duty with mechanical problems
- Vijelia - out of duty with mechanical problems
- Viforul - out of duty with mechanical problems
- Vartejul - out of duty with mechanical problems
- Vulcanul - out of duty with mechanical problems

Commander in Chief’s speedboat: MR 131

Small speedboat: MR 158

Torpedo practice tenders:
- MR 136
- MR 137

Self propelled barge: MR 474

A 400 tons water carrier

Armed transport barges:
- PTA 404
- PTA 405
- PTA 406

Submarine chasers:
- KFK 1
- KFK 2
- KFK 3

Fleet tug: Vartosu



2) On the Danube (plus exact place & date):

Sail training ship: Mircea (Braila 2.09)

Cutter: Mayana (Braila 2.09)

Diving barges:
- MR 475 (Valciu canal 7.09)
- MR 476 (Sulina 24.08 )

Mining barges:
- MR 402 (Valciu canal 7.09)
- MR 401 (Valcov 24.08 ) – damaged by bombs

Accommodation barges:
- MR 352 (Calarasi 7.09)
- MR 353 / Basarabeanca (Tulcea 25.08 )

Auxiliary fixed barge: MR 441 (Valciu canal 9.09)

Crane barge: MR 403 (Valciu canal 9.09)

Monitors:
- Lahovary (Calarsi)
- Ardeal (Calarasi)
- Bucovina (Giurgiu)
- Basarabia (Zimnicea)
- Bratianu (Ismail 8.08 )

River speedboats:
- Vedeta fluviala nr.1 (Tulcea 25.08 )
- Vedeta fluviala nr.3 (Valcov 24.08 ) – damaged by bombs
- Vedeta fluviala nr.4 (Harsova 1.09)
- Vedeta fluviala nr.5 (Valciu canal 5.09) – under repairs (engine failure)
- Vedeta fluviala nr.6 (Valciu canal 5.09) – under repairs (engine failure)
- Vedeta fluviala nr.7 (Tr. Severin)

Commander in Chief’s ships:
- Macin (Harsova 1.09)
- Cmd. Paun (Giurgiu)

Surveying vessel: Maican (Harsova 1.09)

River patrol speedboats:
- MR 51 (Valciu canal 7.09)
- MR 32 (Calafat)
- MR 33 (Giurgiu)
- MR 34 (Valciu canal 5.09)
- MR 35 (Valciu canal 5.09) – immobilized by engine failure
- MR 36 (Tulcea 25.08 )
- MR 37 (Valciu canal 5.09) – sunk on 19.09 under Soviet command
- MR 38 (Valciu canal 5.09) – ran agrownd on 18.09 under Soviet command
- MR 39 (Valciu canal 6.09)
- MR 40 (Valciu canal 7.09) - sunk on 14.09 under Soviet command
- MR 41 (Valciu canal 7.09)
- MR 42 (Valciu canal 7.09)

Ambulance speedboats:
- MR 132 (Tulcea 1.09)
- MR 133 (Valciu canal 6.09)

Commander in Chief’s speedboats:
- MR 134 (Sf. Gheorghe river branch 1.09)
- MR 135 (Valciu canal 7.09) – immobilized by engine failure
- MR 144 (Tulcea 25.08 )

Radio speedboat: MR 143 (Valcov 24.08 )

Communications speedboats:
- MR 141 (Tr. Severin)
- MR 142 (Tr. Severin)
- MR 146 (Sulina 24.08 )
- MR 145 (Sulina 24.08 )
- MR 149 (Valcov 24.08 )
- MR 152 (Jurilovca 25.08 )
- MR 153 (Valciu canal 7.09)
- MR 154 (Tulcea 25.08 )
- MR 155 (Valciu canal 7.09)
- MR 156 (Valcov 24.08 )
- MR 157 (Constanta 5.09)
- MR 158 (Valciu canal 7.09)
- MR 160 (Valciu canal 7.09)
- MR 161 (Valciu canal 7.09)
- MR 163 (Valciu canal 7.09)
- Ex-Soviet nr. 44 (Valciu canal 7.09)

Small boats:
- MR 251 (Chilia Veche 24.08 )
- Cormoran (Sulina 24.08 )

Transport barges (loaded):
- MR 301 (Valciu canal 9.09)
- MR 302 (Valciu canal 9.09)
- MR 303 (Sulina 24.08 )
- MR 304 (Sulina 24.08 )
- MR 306 (Valciu canal 7.09)
- MR 307 (Valciu canal 7.09)

Bakery supply barge: (Valciu canal 7.09)

Oil tanker barge (loaded): MR 351 (Calarasi 29.08 )

Oil tankers (loaded):
- MR 371 (Sulina 24.08 )
- MR 372 (Valciu canal 12.09)
- MR 373 (Valciu canal 9.09)
- MR 374 (Valciu canal 12.09)
- MR 376 (Rasova)
- MR 378 (Oltenita 6.09)
- MR 379 (Giurgiu)
- MR 380 (Valciu canal 7.09)
- MR 381 (Valciu canal 7.09)
- MR 382 (Giurgiu 3.09)
- MR 383 (Valciu canal 7.09)
- MR 384 (Valciu canal 7.09)


Ferryboats:
- MR 451 (Chilia 24.08 )
- MR 452 (Valcov 24.08 )
- MR 463 (Valciu canal 7.09)
- MR 464 (Valciu canal 7.09)
- MR 473 (Piua Petrii)

Un-powered river crossing pontoon: MR 491 (Valciu canal 7.09)

Floating batteries:
- MR 492 (Danube Delta 24.08 )
- MR 493 (Danube Delta 24.08 )
- MR 494 (Danube Delta 24.08 )
- MR 495 (Danube Delta 24.08 )
- MR 496 (Danube Delta 24.08 )

Tugs:
- MO 1 (Valciu canal 9.09)
- MO 2 (Valciu canal 9.09)
- MO 3 (Valciu canal 9.09)
- Silistra (Piua Petrii 2.09)



Source: “Armata Rosie in Romania 1944-1958” by A.S. Marinescu
Iasi, Romania 2001
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Posted: June 24, 2004 11:24 pm
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In addition, from the Danube shipyards were taken between 3 and 19 of September:

From Galati: a 1500 tons floating dock

From Corabia:
- a 3000 tons floating dock
- the cargo ship “Cetatea Alba” (under construction)
- 4 minesweepers (under construction)
- a number of fully loaded transport barges

[same source]
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Posted: June 25, 2004 01:31 am
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Great information.

Why were some units scuttled (like the CB midget submarines inherited from the Italians), but others were allowed to fall into Soviet hands?

The Germans (understandably) seemed a bit more intent on ensuring no war material fell into enemy hands.

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Posted: June 25, 2004 07:31 am
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The Germans (understandably) seemed a bit more intent on ensuring no war material fell into enemy hands.

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At that time, theoretically, the Soviets were allies. :wink:
Those were some dramatic events, several officers comitted suicide, like the CO of the Destroyer Squadron, in the moment the Soviet sailors set foot on the Regina Maria.
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Posted: June 28, 2004 08:19 pm
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Yes, this is great stuff. There are a couple items I'm curious about. Does anyone have the specifications for the four minesweepers captured while under construction? Any further details on the captured Soviet speed boat ex-no 44?
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Posted: June 29, 2004 11:54 am
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Where did the KFKs come from? Where these transferred from the Kriegsmarine or local conversions from craft of opportunity?

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Posted: June 29, 2004 05:11 pm
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I believe they were of German origin, just like the PTAs (which were in fact MFPs). PTA was the acronym for the Romanian translation.
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Posted: June 29, 2004 08:49 pm
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I'm looking in Deutsche Schiffe unter dem Roten Stern by Lemachko. He lists KFK 1-5 as captured in Romania and renamed T 651-655. I don't read German, but he appears to say they were all taken in Constanta. One photo is included. The vessel looks different from the KFK I know--it has a foremast--but the picture is unclear, and it was taken 20 years after the war. I tried going through Groner--oy, what a long list. I think we need help from someone who knows German. Andreas, help!
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Andreas von Mach
Posted: June 30, 2004 09:28 am
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I have also:
minelayer Dacia
minesweeper Pasteur -> TShCh-661
tugs
Romania -> ChF-51
Latru->ChF-53
Izmail->ChF54
survey cutters:
Renduska->Buria
Peskaruica->Buchta
sail TS:
Marina->PMShCh-1

Danube Flotilla
auxiliary minesweepers:
Gerdap->EMTShCh-656 lost 11.10.44
Bessarab->EMTShCh-657
Amurgul->EMTShCh-658 lost 9.10.44
Mortu->EMTShCh-659
Maikop->EMTShCh-660
tugs:
D2->ChF-49 returned to Greece 27.9.45
D3->ChF-50 returned to Greece 27.9.45
Arlon->ChF-57returned 27.9.45

S.S.Berezhnoy "Trofei i Reparatsii VMF SSSR. Spravochnik" Yakutsk 1994
According to him:
KFK-1 to KFK-5 were built by State Shipyard at Varna, all seized at Konstanta 29.8.44.
Moreover there were three Romanian No1-No3 KFK type built during WWII in Konstata and seized also there on 29.8.44.
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Tiornu
Posted: June 30, 2004 10:12 am
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So none of these Romanian KFK's were German? Groner will not include any of them?
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Andreas von Mach
Posted: June 30, 2004 01:55 pm
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The ships No1-3 were ex Romanian
known also as V.S. Nr1-3 (my Romanian notices)

The other are German , the numbers are different (KFK 1-5).
The following KFK are reported trensfered to Romania
transferred to Romania 21.11.1944
seized by Soviets (now German data):

KFK 198->UJ 311->MO 851->T-668
KFK 199->UJ 319->MO 852->T-666
KFK 201->MO 853->T-667
KFK 270->????

Were they identic with omanian No1.-3 ?
Were there any KFK built in Romania ?

They were discussed here.
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Posted: June 30, 2004 05:39 pm
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The list I've posted is a Romanian official document, written by Romanian Military HQ (Marele Stat Major) - section 7 on September 19th 1944. It was based on the reports received till that date from naval HQs throughout Romania. Considering the blury situation, it's very likely it wasn't a complete report.

Anyway, any ships that were not comissioned on active duty (damaged/discarded) or under repairs were certaily omitted. Other sources mention that in some cases small river ships/boats were abandoned by their crew (deserted) and randomly collected by the Soviets from ashore.

Andreas von Mach:

regarding your additions to the list:

- Marina->PMShCh-1 was a small sail yacht, not a sail training ship

- the tugs were not armed and belonged to the Constanta Harbor authority (civilian - merchant marine), they were not part of the Navy (thaugh they were used as navy auxiliarys during the war).
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Posted: July 01, 2004 05:03 am
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The four KFKs you listed were all made in Germany by Burmester, Swinemunde, the primary German builder of KFKs. There were numerous Swedish, Dutch, and Belgian builders as well, but I don't see any in Romania. The closest I can find is in Varna.
Groner describes three of the four German KFKs as "delivered" to Romania, though 201 he describes as "Romanian booty." He gives no indication of renamings.
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Surveying vessel: Maican (Harsova 1.09)


Have anybody any more data about that ship.

It seems that Soviets used that ship as replaceent
for GHERDAP .

According to books of Berezhnoy
EMTsC-656 ex GENERAL MAIKAN
On 28.3.1947 renamed DOLGOTA and re-classified as survey vessel
Deleted from Soviet Navy Lists 7.7.1956 and scrapped

Built 1909 as a tug
320t 40,00x10,5x1,1m 180hp=9,0kts 22men as a warship
I do not belive 180hp for 40m tug -something is here wrong.

Moreover another Romanian tug was converted into minesweeper by Soviets
CONSTANTA - no data in Soviet books
24.05.1945 EMTsC-660
16.6.1949 T-660
30.12.55 despatch vessel
23.1.56 POK-72
21.1.57 PMB-48 ()river motorboat)
27.3.60 transferred to Blask Sea Fleet
1960s decomissioned and scrapped

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Posted: April 12, 2009 05:16 pm
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According to http://sovnavy-ww2.by.ru, the RO navy ships captured were renamed after 09.1944 as :
Regele Ferdinand – LIHOI
Regina Maria – LETUCII
Marasesti – LEGKII
Marasti – LOVKII
Cpt.Dumitrescu – ARAKS
Lt.Cdr.Stihi Eugen – AHTUBA
Slt.Ghiculescu – ANGARA
KFK nr.1, 2, 3 - MO-851, 852, 853, then T-668, 666 si 667
Constanta – BUG, PKZ-87
SBORUL – MUSSON
SMEUL – TOROS
Am.Murgescu – DON, PKZ-107, PM-76, PMR-76
Dacia – DESNA, PKZ-34
Vantul, Vartejul, Vedenia,Vulcanul - ТК-951, 952, 953, 954
Viscolul – TK-955
( Vijelia, Viforul – TK-956, 957 ) ???
Major Constantin Ene (Vedeta nr.1) - СК-754
Capitan Mihail Romano (Vedeta nr.2) - СК-755
Major Dimitrie Giurascu (Vedeta nr.3) - СК-756
Riverine minesweepers
Nr.53 - КТ-921 (26.5 t.)
Nr.57 - КТ-922 (26.5 t.)
Nr.81 - КТ-923 (40 t.)
Nr.31 - КТ-924 (17 t.)
Nr.32 - КТ-925 (17 t.)
Nr.33 - КТ-926 (17 t.)
Nr.37 - КТ-927 (25 t.)
Nr.38 - КТ-928 (25 t.)
Nr.41 - КТ-929 (25 t.)
Nr.42 - КТ-930 (25 t.)
Ion C. Bratianu - AZOV
Alexandru Lahovari - MARIUPOL
Ardeal - BERDIANSK
Basarabia – KERCH
Bucovina – IZMAIL
Rechinul – TS-1, N-39, S-39
Marsuinul – TS-2, N-40, S-40
Delfinul – TS-3
Gen. Maican – EMTShCh–656
Bassarab - EMTShCh–657
(Constanta ?) Maikop - EMTShCh–660
Motru - EMTShCh–664
(Gherdap, Amurgul - None)

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