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JU88, Avion detzinutin mod abuziv

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C-2	Posted: September 21, 2005 12:43 pm
General Medic Group: Hosts Posts: 2453 Member No.: 19 Joined: June 23, 2003	No, I can speak a little,but I cnnot read or write...

D13-th_Mytzu	Posted: September 21, 2005 12:58 pm
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cristoloveanu	Posted: September 22, 2005 09:40 pm
Soldat Group: Members Posts: 5 Member No.: 673 Joined: September 18, 2005	ju88 Due to lack of professional probity and malice displayed by some of your contributors,I am asking the moderator to erase all my postings ASAP. Thank you, M. v. K. This post has been edited by cristoloveanu on September 23, 2005 01:51 am

Cantacuzino	Posted: September 22, 2005 10:16 pm
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cristoloveanu

Posted: September 23, 2005 04:53 am

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QUOTE (Dani @ Sep 19 2005, 09:08 PM)

This post has been edited by cristoloveanu on September 23, 2005 04:54 am

Iamandi	Posted: September 23, 2005 05:04 am
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Dani

Posted: September 23, 2005 12:25 pm

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QUOTE (cristoloveanu @ Sep 23 2005, 06:53 AM)

QUOTE (Dani @ Sep 19 2005, 09:08 PM)

Mr. Cristoloveanu, what you really don't understand from my post quoted by you was that I expressed my doubts on C-2 supposition that you probably don't know English. I quoted your post saying that you discussed with an US colonel. That's all.

Also if you don't mind, how old are you?

Edited for typo: yur=your

This post has been edited by Dani on September 23, 2005 12:45 pm

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QUOTE (Dani @ Sep 20 2005, 02:25 PM)

QUOTE (tomcat1974 @ Sep 20 2005, 01:57 PM)

The damn plane is not ours for many years... They obtained it when US was an enemy of Romania...so is Captured material...
Anyway... the US can do a thing ..
"Here is you damn plane was in storate for 60 years... We mantain it... We recondition it... We transport it... So here is the Bill "

It is well known that after 70s, US returns to West Germany a lot of panzers and planes displayed now in many German museums.

The main problem with this Ju 88 is that it isn't a Romanian manufactured plane. Therefore I doubt that ever the US will return to Romania.

And speaking of possible bill, how much will costs? 1 milion USD, 2 million? It seems that nobody cares to maintain even those few WW2 tanks in the Military Museum's yard...

Nobody wants to pay anything but anybody wants to grabs all of things!

Mr. Cristoloveanu, please find herewith my fourth post on your thread.

You said

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ju88
Due to lack of professional probity and malice displayed by some of your
contributors,I am asking the moderator to erase all my postings ASAP.
Thank you,
M. v. K.

If I made any proof of professional probity (!!!) (professional probity reffering to what?) please show me that. Also for the "malice displayed" by me, I'm waiting for you to show where it was.

If you didn't speak about me, posting "by some of your
contributors" please name them specifically.

Also I feel insulted by your request. What is the intention of this thread? Previously you expressed your upset that the JU-88 displayed in Daytona are still in US custody instead of "returning" to Romania. After few days you just edited your posts. Users who had posted in this thread knows what is about, but if that US colonel (!) or any other world user will come to this amputed thread what will understand??

Rather than posting emotionally or impulsive, think twice, fellow! If you care about Romania and Romania's history please show that!

Snakeman__	Posted: January 26, 2006 10:29 am
Soldat Group: Members Posts: 1 Member No.: 795 Joined: January 24, 2006	No offense, but if you think that the americans would ever give us the Ju88 they have in their museum (in perfect condition) for a twisted, rusty half of Sherman chasis or any other "parts" you might have, you're day dreaming. It's just a joke I realise that, but nevertheless it's an idea. Maybe someone will sometime fix that Sherman, so that way we will have something of theirs. (somebody already said that already, i think, my apologies )

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QUOTE (C-2 @ Sep 19 2005, 03:37 PM)

As far as we know,
the airplane was flown to Cyprus, not Cretye, by a Romanian pilot.

This quote is as an introduction, to point to what post and what author I am referring to...

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No way were the Germans 50 years ahead...

With this I very much agree. In no way the Germans were better in propeller driven bombers in 1943, compared with the Britons and the Americans. I would dare to say they weren't as good as their enemies.

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When he deserted, the Americans and British already had many Ju-88s.

With this I do not agree. In the moment of that defection, the Allies already had just one operational Ju-88, if I remember right. I am not sure if they really had even that one, in the moment the Romanian pilot chose to do what he did.
Well, if we extend the subject to wreckages, scrap material and what else remains after a Ju-88 drops in flames from sky, this is a different story...

This post has been edited by Florin on January 27, 2006 03:58 pm

Florin	Posted: January 27, 2006 04:03 pm
General de corp de armata Group: Members Posts: 1879 Member No.: 17 Joined: June 22, 2003	There was much discussion here about returning that Ju-88 to Romania, because once upon a time it was paid and thus obtained by that Romanian government. I consider that if we are to make a list of objects rightfully belonging to Romania and actually kept in other countries, there are many other priorities. I can give some examples on the spot, but I do not want to drift the subject that started around this Ju-88. This post has been edited by Florin on January 27, 2006 04:56 pm

Victor	Posted: January 27, 2006 04:16 pm
Admin Group: Admin Posts: 4350 Member No.: 3 Joined: February 11, 2003	The airplane can be very well considered war booty. It is part of the practice of war to not return captured materials to the defeated enemy. The airplane does no longer belong to the Romanian state.

Florin	Posted: May 25, 2011 08:47 am
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