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> 1848/49 in Transilvania, about those revolutionary years
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Posted: January 01, 2011 11:13 am
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Nice document, dead-cat. I wonder if you can help me pointing some internet site were I can check the nominal OOB of AH army in ww1, as I am looking for the units were my to ancestors were drafted. One felt POW to italians and the other one to russians. The first was from Salaj, the second from Arad county. The last returned home in 1921.

Are you interested also in the history of Nasaud grenzinfanterie regiment? I am interested in the relatively early history of the regiment, as romanian historians starting with Baritiu point that they were fighting at Arcole bridge against Napoleon, but it seems that all of them inspired from Karl Klein, an oficer from the regiment in 1840's, who doesnt indicate the source of his writings. The french sources doesnt show them at the bridge, nor the known austrian ones (with proves, indicating the primary source, because there are some famous austrian historians who wrote about it with no indication of the sources).

i suppose you already know this site.

i am generally intrested in the grenzer regiments, both from banat and transsylvania.
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Posted: January 02, 2011 07:10 am
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Posted: January 05, 2011 08:10 pm
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Old fighters from Romanian militia of Avram Iancu's army, photographed at Ţebea, Hunedoara county, 1919, at Avram Iancu's grave. They fought in 1848/1849 revolution in Transylvania. In 1919 they guarded Avram Iancu's grave until romanian army arived there. Photo copy given to me courtesy to National Military Museum, Bucharest.
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Posted: April 08, 2011 05:17 pm
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Moţ combatant from Auraria Gemina Legion, 1848-1849, comanded by Avram Iancu (reenactment, 2011).

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Auraria Gemina Legion was raised from romanian villages above Câmpeni, Alba county. It was the only romanian militia unit which was not disbanded or destroyed by the enemy in combat. It fought 3 succesive (and succesfull) battles in Abrud, Alba county, in summer of 1849.
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Posted: April 08, 2011 05:22 pm
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Grenzer of romanian nationality, from Orlat, 1 Wallachische Grenzinfanterie Regiment, 1848-1849 revolution, fighting on the side of romanians (reenactment, 2010).

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Posted: August 12, 2011 05:34 pm
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Someone asked some time ago who provided military training to romanian transylvanian militia in 1848/1849. Here is one of them: http://enciclopediaromaniei.ro/w/index.php...ian&redirect=no]http://enciclopediaromaniei.ro/w/index.php...ian&redirect=no[/URL]

New articles about 1848/1849 battles, cronologically

Poienari skirmish http://enciclopediaromaniei.ro/wiki/Lupta_...Poienari_(1848)

Târnava skirmish (was posted months ago, but here for the sake of cronology of events) http://enciclopediaromaniei.ro/wiki/Lupta_...ava_(Hunedoara)

Brad skirmish [URL=http://enciclopediaromaniei.ro/wiki/Lupta_de_la_Brad_(1848,_Hunedoara)]http://enciclopediaromaniei.ro/wiki/Lupta_...848,_Hunedoara)



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Posted: September 09, 2011 05:53 pm
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Update about general Ghe. Adrian, who's biography I posted above: he was captured by hungarian troops entering Abrud in 6th of May 1848 and held captive until romanian militia liberated him after the first battle from Abrud, which ended on 10th of May 1848. (testimony of fellow prisonier Vasile Macariu Moldovan, prefect of Legiunea de Câmpie, published in 1875)

Legion Blasiana (Legiunea Blasiana) http://enciclopediaromaniei.ro/wiki/Legiunea_I_Blasiana

Legion Auraria Gemina (Legiunea Auraria Gemina) http://enciclopediaromaniei.ro/wiki/Legiun..._Auraria_Gemina

Legion Mureş (Legiunea Mureş)
http://enciclopediaromaniei.ro/wiki/Legiunea_XII_Mureş

If I'll have time, I'll wrote also a article about Legiunea de Câmpie.

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Posted: September 11, 2011 07:11 pm
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21 inf, nice work, thanks for your enciclopediaromaniei.ro articles.
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Posted: September 30, 2011 06:55 pm
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Memories of Arthur Gorgey about 1848 revolution in Transilvania (and Hungary), english language here: http://www.archive.org/details/mylifeactsinhung00grrich

He has a few sentences about "moţi".

I also found memories of Klapka, Czecz, and Csutak Kalman (the last two in german and, respectively, hungarian language).

Czecz Janos fought in Transylvania in 1848/49 and sought refuge in Argentina after 1848 revolution. He became the founder of modern argentinian army.
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Posted: November 12, 2011 08:53 am
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@Denes: can you translate "vetágyu" from hungarian in romanian, please? I tried online hungarian-romanian dictionary but no results.
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Posted: November 12, 2011 12:55 pm
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The word has no meaning. Something must be missing, or the word is misspelled.
Agyu (with two accent marks) is cannon. Vet is nothing.

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Posted: November 12, 2011 08:13 pm
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@Denes: Thanks for the response! The word "vetagyu" is from the book of Kövari, Lászlo, Erdély története 1848-1849-ben, Pest, 1861, in hungarian language in original. When he describe some military units, hungarian, romanian, austrian or russian, he mentioned the name of the unit, strenght in men and the artilery they had. He says for example "one company of Bianchi Regiment, with 4 six pounders gun and 1 vetágyu" (negy hat fontos ágyu es egy vetágyu). Initially I suposed that vetágyu is a kind a mortar, due the fact that guns are always mentioned separatelly. Or it might be some kind of rocket? I learned that in 1848-49 hungarian and austrian troops used Congreve rockets in Transylvania. Or it can be some kind of improvised piece of artilery or a kind of artilery piece used only for signals? As I am doing research, I need to know for sure what is a "vetágyu", if you can help in this way. You can see yourself the fragment of the text here http://www.archive.org/stream/erdlytrtnete...e/n142/mode/1up, search at the page 142.
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Posted: November 13, 2011 10:22 am
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If somebody can translate this :
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(franc.= piéce á feu, ném.= Geschütz) állványra fektett súlyos lövőfegyver. A hosszu csövü L.-eket, melyekből aránylag nagy mennyiségü puskaporral a lövedéket a vizszintes iránytól csak kevéssé eltérő irányban indítják el: ágyunak; a rövid csövü, de nagy ürméretü (kaliber) L.-eket, amelyekből aránylag kevesebb puskaporral, a vizszintes irány fölé tekintélyes magasságra emelkedő irányba hajtják a lövedéket, amely azután a céltárgyra mintegy lezuhan, mozsaraknak nevezik. A L.-ek e két főneme között foglalt helyet (e század második feléig) az ágyunál rövidebb, de a mozsárnál hosszabb csövü vetőágyu (hibásan: vetágyu: franc.= obice, ném.= Haubitze), mellyel belül üregesés robbanó, meg néha gyujtó anyagokkal megtöltött vasgolyókat, gránátokat (l. o.) lapos ívet leiró pályán lőttek, v. magasra emelkedő igen hajlított ívü pályán hajítottak (vetettek).


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Posted: November 13, 2011 11:06 am
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Thanks, Petre! Due to your post I managed to found out what a vetagyu is: a howitzer! smile.gif Sorry that I can't help you with the translation, is too complicated for me, as I dont speak hungarian so well.
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Posted: November 13, 2011 01:15 pm
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But actually I did not want this...
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