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Mircea87 |
Posted: December 25, 2010 10:30 pm
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Fruntas Group: Members Posts: 80 Member No.: 2812 Joined: May 28, 2010 |
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MMM |
Posted: December 26, 2010 10:14 am
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General de divizie Group: Members Posts: 1463 Member No.: 2323 Joined: December 02, 2008 |
Same author as this one Ro. Artillery History 2008; much more interesting - and illustrated!
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Agarici |
Posted: December 26, 2010 10:40 am
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Maior Group: Members Posts: 745 Member No.: 522 Joined: February 24, 2005 |
According to it, there was NO 75 mm field guns of Skoda make (listed on this site as mod. 1928, and allegedly pictured on the site main page - the photo with the artillery guns of the Guard division returning from the frontline, in late 1941) in the Romanian army before or during WW 2. As presented in the book, the only Skoda field cannons of the Romanian army (infantry divisions) were the 100 mm field howitzers, of different models/production years.
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MMM |
Posted: December 26, 2010 12:34 pm
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General de divizie Group: Members Posts: 1463 Member No.: 2323 Joined: December 02, 2008 |
To my "untrained eye", this:
100?! ...and the image from page 81 (bottom right) ...seem pretty similar! Are they different? -------------------- M
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21 inf |
Posted: December 26, 2010 01:16 pm
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General de corp de armata Group: Retired Posts: 1512 Member No.: 1232 Joined: January 05, 2007 |
Great book!
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ionionescu |
Posted: December 26, 2010 01:32 pm
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Plutonier major Group: Members Posts: 345 Member No.: 2794 Joined: April 26, 2010 |
I can't download the book, is it just by me? Thanks!
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dragos |
Posted: December 26, 2010 02:40 pm
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Agarici |
Posted: December 26, 2010 02:58 pm
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I think it's the same gun, described in the book as Skoda 100 mm model 1934 howitzer. The only thing is that, on this site, the gun is presented (the photo belongs to Victor Nitu) as 75 mm model 1928 field gun (Skoda). Also according to the book there was no such thing as a Skoda mod. 1914/(modernized in)1934 howitzer in use with the Romanian army. Perhaps the site administrators should make the due corrections. In the case of the gun in the picture, exhibited at the National Military Museum, the barrel could be simply "measured" (the calibre I mean). EDIT: the artilery gun from that very picture (the second from left to right on the first row of photos, on www.worldwar2.ro homepage) is clearly identified by the authors on the top of page 82 of the book as mod. 1934 100 mm Skoda howitzer. This post has been edited by Agarici on December 26, 2010 03:08 pm |
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MMM |
Posted: December 26, 2010 03:57 pm
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General de divizie Group: Members Posts: 1463 Member No.: 2323 Joined: December 02, 2008 |
@ionionescu: try again; it will display an error message; afterwards, try to save and replace the first saved file; wait, as it's a 25.9 MB file...
@Agarici: so, it seems the Romanian army didn't have a 75 mm. Skoda field gun after all? -------------------- M
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ionionescu |
Posted: December 26, 2010 05:02 pm
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Plutonier major Group: Members Posts: 345 Member No.: 2794 Joined: April 26, 2010 |
Thank you Dragoș and MMM, I found out that my Firefox was the problem, for whatever reason I get ”file not foud”.
I tried with Internet Explorer and it worked. Now I have the book, thanks! Regards! ps. Thanks Mircea87! This post has been edited by ionionescu on December 26, 2010 05:04 pm |
Agarici |
Posted: December 26, 2010 05:07 pm
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Maior Group: Members Posts: 745 Member No.: 522 Joined: February 24, 2005 |
@MMM
No, according to that book it did not. As 75 mm guns, the Schneider-Putilov (modified to 75 mm and modernized - captured from Russian Imperials and Bolsheviks after 1917) and Schneider mod. 1897 (imported from France during WW 1) field guns were employed by the infantry (and the mechanized/armored division), Skoda mod. 1915 (and Schneider-Putilov) mountain guns by mountain brigades/divisions and older Krupp mod. 1904 (Romanian) and 1908 (cavalry) by the cavalry divisions/brigades. Also according to the same source, the division-level regular field howitzer battalions had some state of the art (by that time standards) equipment - the modern 100 mm Skoda mod. 1930 and mod. 1934 howitzers. This post has been edited by Agarici on December 26, 2010 05:09 pm |
Victor |
Posted: December 26, 2010 05:51 pm
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See this older discussion on AHF: http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?f=106&t=157813
See also page 122 of "Armata Romana 1941-45" by Scafes, Serbanescu & Co. for an image of this cannon identified in the caption as 75 mm Skoda M1928. |
MMM |
Posted: August 21, 2011 03:41 pm
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General de divizie Group: Members Posts: 1463 Member No.: 2323 Joined: December 02, 2008 |
A "late" question: the free e-book had a printed version? If so, aht publishing house did it? I'm asking that because I should mention it in my bibliography and without a publishing house, I won't be able to...
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Mircea87 |
Posted: August 21, 2011 10:53 pm
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Fruntas Group: Members Posts: 80 Member No.: 2812 Joined: May 28, 2010 |
Stroea, Adrian, col. conf. univ. dr., Băjenaru, Gheorghe, lt. col, Artileria română în date și imagini, Editura Centrului Tehnic-Editorial al Armatei, București, 2010, ISBN 978-606-524-080-3
I've used it in many wikipedia articles I've written. And yes, I've seen a printed version of it (but only in a photo from RFT magazine). |
MMM |
Posted: August 22, 2011 06:00 am
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General de divizie Group: Members Posts: 1463 Member No.: 2323 Joined: December 02, 2008 |
Thanks! I didn't really need the printed edition, but just the publishing house!
Vielen Danke! LE: I was actually referring to the other book mentioned, "165 ani de existenţă...", with the same author (Stroea), but I suppose it's the same publishing house. On that particular book, the publishing house is not written on the cover - only "Bucuresti 2008"!!!! This post has been edited by MMM on August 22, 2011 06:11 am -------------------- M
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