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| Posted by: stephen brezinski September 19, 2004 12:43 am |
| Greetings Being facinated with the operations of Germany's allies on the eastern front I express it in my modeling. Can anyone advise me whether I can model a Praga RV 6x4 truck as Romanian????? I understand the Romanians used a Skoda model or two, as well as several German trucks. Sincerely, Stephen |
| Posted by: dragos September 19, 2004 08:39 am |
| Yes, Praga RV was in the service of Romanian Army. http://www.autogallery.org.ru/m/pragarv.htm |
| Posted by: stephen brezinski September 19, 2004 09:54 pm |
| Thanks for your reply and the link. Actually this has long been one of my favorite websites. After I posted my question I looked down the page and found that someone had posted a photo of the RV with Romanian troops! Its like God was looking after me. I am building a Profikit Praga RV in 1/72 scale. It a beautiful model but rather complex. It will look nice in Romanian markings. Stephen |
| Posted by: Victor September 20, 2004 08:39 am |
| The Army trucks were painted kaki and the Air Force or Navy trucks were painted gray. All had white stripes (5 cm wide and 50 cm long) on the edges of the wheel covers or of the truck itself, both in front and at the rear. On both doors was written with white the maximum weight that could be transported. The lights were camouflaged with cloth. There was a white square painted on the windshield, opposite the driver's seat. It also had a white line going from the upper corner opposite the diver's side to the lower corner on the driver's side. |
| Posted by: stephen brezinski September 21, 2004 12:38 am |
| In previos message you stated: "There was a white square painted on the windshield, opposite the driver's seat. It also had a white line going from the upper corner opposite the diver's side to the lower corner on the driver's side. " This white square and line on the windshield puzzle me. I would like to get my makings correct but an not really sure how this should look? I have seen several photos of Romanian trucks but have not noted this. Is it appropriate for a 1941 to 1943 period truck???? Would it block the driver's vission? Can you refer me to a photo of this? Thank you much, Stephen |
| Posted by: dragos September 21, 2004 04:11 pm |
| Mercedes Benz L 3000 S Source: "Armata Romana 1941-1945", RAI, Bucharest 1996. |
| Posted by: dragos September 21, 2004 04:13 pm |
| Ford Marmon model by Dan Melinte: |
| Posted by: MAB38 December 10, 2004 08:30 am |
| Any italian Fiat, SPA or Lancia trucks used in WW2 Romanian Army? |
| Posted by: Ahmed December 11, 2004 11:42 am |
| Also in modeling interest; does any body know what kind of refueler trucks they used in the ARR? Thank you. |
| Posted by: Cantacuzino December 14, 2004 07:29 am |
| Most of the fuel truck used by ARR were Ford fuel truck ( assembled at "Atelierele Ford Bucuresti "). But also other fuel trucks were used like Opel Blitz and french fuel truck Lafitte. Here is a picture with Ford fuel truck on Popesti -Leordeni airfield. |
| Posted by: Cantacuzino December 14, 2004 07:31 am |
| And another picture from the back of Ford fuel truck. |
| Posted by: Cantacuzino December 14, 2004 07:37 am | ||
There is a little mistake. It is not a Ford "Marmon" (with short nose engine) but Ford truck assembled at "Atelierele Ford Bucuresti" ( aprox.400pcs.) Here is a picture with a 2 or 3 tons cammo of a Ford truck. |
| Posted by: Cantacuzino December 14, 2004 07:38 am |
| Another Ford truck picture. |
| Posted by: Cantacuzino December 14, 2004 07:42 am | ||
Sorry i post the same picture twice. |
| Posted by: Ahmed December 17, 2004 09:52 am |
| Cantacuzino, thamks a lot for your posts, they're very interesting! |
| Posted by: Iamandi December 17, 2004 10:37 am |
| What type of AA MG's are there? Iama |
| Posted by: C-2 December 19, 2004 11:00 pm |
| What truck is that? Photo from E Hladiuk. |
| Posted by: Cantacuzino December 20, 2004 01:16 pm | ||
It's the french fuel truck Latill ( not Lafite sorry my mistake) |
| Posted by: Cantacuzino December 21, 2004 08:14 am |
| Another picture with S.S.A. ( Subsecretariatul de Stat al Aerului)fuel browser near the plane of Cpt.Serbanescu Alex. If anyone could indentify this type of truck please let us know. |
| Posted by: mgc151184 June 24, 2005 04:22 pm | ||
It's a French Laffly fuel truck.  Another SSA Laffly fuel truck near the Fleet 10G plane.  Does any body know if Romanian Army or ARR used Ford AA/Gaz AA truck? |
| Posted by: Agarici June 25, 2005 02:09 pm | ||
... and when was tho photo taken, does anybody knows? Was it before or after the Eastern Campaign?? |
| Posted by: dragos June 25, 2005 02:46 pm | ||
Looks like twin light machineguns on AA mounts. |
| Posted by: Agarici June 26, 2005 08:14 am |
| Thanks Dragos. But when do you think were the photos taken? The truck's cammo seems pretty elaborate, it looks pretty impressive... I think a good indicator if they were taken before 1941 or after 1944 would be the helmets. If there are with king Carol’s emblem/cipher on, then these are pre-WW2 photos. Maybe Cantacuzino could try to magnify them…? Also, is the AA mount similar with that used for the twin (4x) Russian Maxim MGs in AA role, or it is a different model? |
| Posted by: dragos June 26, 2005 08:36 am | ||||
It is not excluded that the photos were shot during 1941-44. The tricolor cockade was rare, yet painted on some vehicles of the Army, such us the R-1 tanks.
I don't think the mounts are standard, because the AA weapons made of coupled machineguns were improvisations. And obviously the mount is different for various numbers or types of machineguns. The picture is unclear, but here they seem to be ZB 30 light machineguns. |
| Posted by: C-2 July 25, 2005 09:06 pm |
| Any Ideea what is that!!!!????? http://imageshack.us |
| Posted by: Cantacuzino July 26, 2005 05:47 am | ||
It looks like a F1 Ferrari.  But the pilot do not match with Schumacher.  |
| Posted by: C-2 July 26, 2005 11:09 am |
| Because it's Barichelo.. Comme'on guys! Denes Victor Dragos any ideea what is this? |
| Posted by: dragos July 26, 2005 11:19 am |
| A log cutting machine pheraps ? |
| Posted by: Agarici July 26, 2005 11:30 am | ||
OK, let me share the secret with you... it's a four wheeled vechicle.  |
| Posted by: C-2 July 26, 2005 11:43 am |
| It's not a 4x4! It's Back wheel drive,but driven by chains. It's on an airfield,and pilots were playing with it. Here's another photo,with Toma lucian. http://imageshack.us |
| Posted by: Cantacuzino July 26, 2005 12:04 pm | ||
Who is the pilot doing "striptease" |
| Posted by: Dénes July 26, 2005 12:32 pm | ||||
These guys are in their bathing shorts. I believe Toma is the one in the centre, who appears the shortest. The one in white shirt and shorts surely looks like Serbanescu. Gen. Dénes |
| Posted by: Agarici July 26, 2005 01:25 pm | ||
Isn't the first from the left Bazu Cantacuzino? |
| Posted by: Dénes July 26, 2005 02:11 pm | ||
Definitely not. Gen. Dénes |
| Posted by: Agarici July 26, 2005 02:14 pm | ||||
Well at least the haircut looks the same... and the nose... |
| Posted by: C-2 July 26, 2005 02:25 pm |
| The guy with the white shirt is an Italian named Ruspolli(remember him?) Sebanescu had much bigger teeths.... What about the vehicle? Any sites about Italian ww2 vehic.? |
| Posted by: Agarici July 26, 2005 02:54 pm |
| Try http://www.comandosupremo.com/ , maby you'll find something on their forum. |
| Posted by: Dénes July 26, 2005 04:45 pm | ||
I know you're a dentist ('dintzar' ), but I still stick to my position regarding Serbanescu...As for the vehicle, it could be an airplane tractor, which pulled the airplanes stuck in mud. Just a guess, though. Gen. Dénes |
| Posted by: C-2 July 26, 2005 05:18 pm |
| Thanks for the link Agarici. I was joking about Cantacuzino. |
| Posted by: horia July 26, 2005 05:20 pm |
| I think is a vehicul for an optic AA sistem! or something like this. |
| Posted by: C-2 July 26, 2005 05:28 pm | ||||
You are right! It's Serbanescu. Only he didn't smile with "all mouth". You know teeth are the best way to recognize a person (even when it is unrecog.)....  |
| Posted by: Victor July 26, 2005 05:38 pm |
| Than if that is Serbanescu, the guy you said it is Ruspoli, can't actually be him, because he was with the 7th Fighter Group in 1941, while Serbanescu joined the unit in 1942. |
| Posted by: C-2 July 26, 2005 05:43 pm |
| I compared some photos of Sebanescu,with the one on the vehicle. The problem is that they are about the same size. Serbanescu's feet are very well built (he was a "Vanator de Munte"). The mustache and the hair cut are about the same. But still the mouth and smile are dif...... In the photos I have ,Sebanescu smiles with all his teeth,an" ear to ear smile". But it's only a photo. |
| Posted by: C-2 July 26, 2005 06:04 pm |
| All photos I posted recently were made during a few days by Stefan Greceanu at Salz airfield,during the Odessa campain. |
| Posted by: Victor July 26, 2005 06:41 pm |
| Then it can't be Serbanescu. |
| Posted by: HMSDiomede July 29, 2005 02:07 pm |
| I believe the mystery vehicle to be an ex-Austrian Army ADMK "Adamek" wheel-cum-track carrier. The tracks and bogie wheels have been removed, but the idler wheels, front drive sprockets (on front end of drive chains), and mountings for the bogie wheels are still visible in the photo. Would be interesting to know the full story of how it got there. David |
| Posted by: dragos July 29, 2005 03:34 pm |
Indeed, it looks like it...   Source: http://mailer.fsu.edu/~akirk/tanks/austria/austria.html |
| Posted by: sid guttridge July 29, 2005 04:23 pm |
| Hi Dragos, For a four-view plan of this vehicle try also: http://www.difesa.ufjf.br/fts/ADMK.pdf Cheers, Sid. |
| Posted by: sid guttridge July 29, 2005 04:25 pm |
| Woops. My error. Try: http://www.defesa.ufjf.br/fts/ADMK.pdf Sid |
| Posted by: Cantacuzino July 30, 2005 09:07 pm |
| Romanian Ford Marmon pulling AA gun ( 37mm?) Adrian Helmets were used by rom. AA gunners in WWII. Picture from" Magazin Aeronautic" 1943. http://imageshack.us |
| Posted by: PanzerKing August 01, 2005 05:14 am |
| Does anyone have a pretty good estimate of how many trucks served in the Army? Where there any trucks produced in Romania? Thanks |
| Posted by: dragos August 01, 2005 06:04 pm | ||
Certainly. There was even a Ford factory in Bucharest. |
| Posted by: Victor August 01, 2005 07:35 pm |
| Between 1939-42, the Romanian Ford factory assembled: 2320 Ford 4/2 3 ton trucks 200 fuel trucks 12 Ford Marmon 4x4 There was an article in Autoshow in 2003 on the factory's history. |
| Posted by: dragos August 01, 2005 07:38 pm | ||
Yes, I was working at Autoshow at that time  Now, I have to ask in order to take the pictures of the Ford factory before the war. |
| Posted by: PanzerKing August 01, 2005 08:18 pm |
| I thought I had heard about a Ford factory in Romania, wanted to make sure. Thanks! |
| Posted by: C-2 August 01, 2005 08:22 pm |
| Before ww2 most vehicles on Romanian roads were American(fuel was v.cheap). 60% of all cars were American 15%(+-) German. |
| Posted by: Bill Murray September 29, 2005 08:42 pm |
| Hi gentlemen: I somehow lost this forum from my bookmarks and just found it again I have no new trucks to post but if I can figure out how to post a photo I have some of cars from an ebay auction of a month or so ago. Let us see if it works. Didn't work. I can find no instructions on how to use imageshack. Any help out there? Bill http://imageshack.us |
| Posted by: Dénes September 29, 2005 09:03 pm | ||
http://www.worldwar2.ro/forum/index.php?showtopic=2093 Gen. Dénes |
| Posted by: Bill Murray September 30, 2005 09:33 pm |
| Thank you Gen. Denes. As you can see, I made it work but it is a bit labour intensive compared to similar sites. In any case, it was a 1936 Cadillac touring car used by a Romanian General from ebay.de, seller is obvious. Here is a Packard from the same source. Bill http://imageshack.us |
| Posted by: Cantacuzino October 01, 2005 02:51 am | ||
" Regele si Conducatorul", Mihai I and Ion Antonescu ( a military parade near "Arcul de Triumf") |
| Posted by: Cantacuzino October 01, 2005 02:54 am | ||
From the picture it looks like used by a german General |
| Posted by: Victor October 01, 2005 06:12 am | ||
The Romanian is behind the German. |
| Posted by: Kepi October 01, 2005 06:22 am | ||
It seems the photo was made before the victory parade of 8th November 1941 on Kisseleff Boulv. The car is the King's one as it has the royal standard on the left side and the crown painted on the registered plate. In the second car it seems to be Generalfeldmarschall Wilhelm Keitel, as a special guest at this event, and the prime minister Mihai (Ica) Antonescu. |
| Posted by: Cantacuzino October 01, 2005 07:23 am | ||
The second car looks like a Mercedes. |
| Posted by: Bill Murray October 01, 2005 11:49 am |
| Morning Gentlemen: Thank you for the additional information. When sold they were just identified as Romanian parade vehicles. The car behind the Packard is a 1936 Cadillac, possibly the same one in my first photo. Bill |
| Posted by: Bill Murray October 01, 2005 08:49 pm |
| I found an old copy of Wheels & Tracks which had an excellent article on Romanian vehicles. According to the article, at least the following manufacturers supplied truck type vehicles in the late 1930s and the war years. Ford US, 4X2 models 1938/39 of which many were converted to Marmon Herrington 4X4. Ford US models imported from Ford Dagenham (UK) Steyr vehicles from Austria Praga, Skoda and Tatra vehicles from Czechoslovakia. DKW motorcycles and Ford trucks from Germany. After the war began, a wide variety of current German vehicles found their way into the Romanian military stocks. The article also stated that the private stock of vehicles existing when the war began were requisitioned to almost 100% which would mean a very wide variety of American and German civilian vehicles could probably have been seen in military "dress". If no one has done so on another part of this forum, I can scan and post some example photos from this article. I also hope others may have photos of these regular military issue vehicles as well as the requisitioned ones that they may share with us. Cheers Bill |
| Posted by: Dénes October 02, 2005 01:35 am | ||
Can you let us know the issue no. and year? Gen. Dénes |
| Posted by: Bill Murray October 02, 2005 03:34 am |
| Hi Denes: Sorry, Issue #30 from, I guess 1990 pages 14 to 19. Bill |
| Posted by: Cantacuzino October 02, 2005 03:10 pm | ||
Chevrolet . Courtesy Dan Melinte http://imageshack.us |
| Posted by: C-2 October 02, 2005 05:27 pm |
| Who is Dan Melinte? |
| Posted by: Bill Murray October 02, 2005 06:54 pm |
| Maybe he meant Merenti who is a fairly big volume seller on ebay.de, same fellow that had the Packard and Cadillac photos for sale some time ago. Bill |
| Posted by: Victor October 02, 2005 07:23 pm |
| No, Bill, he meant Melinte. And C-2 is just joking, because he knows very well who Dan Melinte is. |
| Posted by: Cantacuzino October 02, 2005 07:37 pm |
| Ford Ambulance. Courtesy Dan Melinte ( not Merenti ) http://imageshack.us |
| Posted by: Cantacuzino October 02, 2005 07:42 pm |
| Ford 1940. Courtesy Dan Melinte http://imageshack.us |
| Posted by: Cantacuzino October 02, 2005 07:45 pm |
| Hanomag . Courtesy Dan Melinte http://imageshack.us |
| Posted by: Cantacuzino October 02, 2005 07:50 pm |
| Bill please indentify this car . Picture courtesy Dan Melinte Dodge 1938 ??? http://imageshack.us |
| Posted by: mabadesc October 02, 2005 08:11 pm |
| Maybe a "Polski Fiat"? |
| Posted by: Bill Murray October 02, 2005 08:22 pm |
| Hi guys: Well, I missed the joke but I guess when you register in Jan 2004 and lose your hard drive not long after that you get out of the loop. I will try to play catch up as best I can. Cantacuzino: First photo is a 1939 Ford of the US type. Second photo is a 1940 Ford, probably supplied by Ford Dagenham (UK) with what appears to be an open cab Opel Blitz behind it. Third photo is, in my opinion, a Hanomag Sturm of about 1936. Fourth photo is to the best of my knowledge, a 1938 Plymouth. I post here what I believe to be a Fiat, don't know the exact model. Please understand I may give incorrect credit/source from time to time and it is purely because although I transferred images from my hard drive to a disc before it crashed, the information is not the same. I know that Gen. Denes and one other forum member sent me photos of Romanian cars and trucks so if it is yours, please claim it. I think I got this one off ebay.de some time ago. Bill http://imageshack.us |
| Posted by: HMSDiomede October 03, 2005 09:31 pm | ||
Thanks, Bill. I have a fairly large collection of Wheels and Tracks. I'll have to check and see if I have issue #30. David |
| Posted by: mgc151184 October 04, 2005 05:02 pm | ||
I think that the truck behind is Ford G917 or G997 cargo with open cab, probably assembled at "Atelierele Ford Bucuresti ". |
| Posted by: Bill Murray October 04, 2005 09:33 pm |
| mgc: I believe you have corrected me. I enlarged the photo after copying it and it definitely has several ID clues that would indicate a Ford and not an Opel. I always hate to make an error but it is helpful when someone with a better eye than mine makes a good ID (my eyes are 65 years old now.) Good work!!! Bill |
| Posted by: Dénes October 05, 2005 12:20 am | ||
Here is Dan Melinte snatching a photo recently (however, he didn't realize that, in turn, he was also photographed). Gen. Dénes  |
| Posted by: Dénes October 05, 2005 12:40 am |
| Here is a line-up of motley collection of vehicles. Isn't the second one from left the model you're looking for? Note that it doesn't have the 'white square and diagonal' symbol painted on the top left corner of the windshield, as it should be. What about the other types? (The last ones look to me as regular Ford trucks). Gen. Dénes  |
| Posted by: mgc151184 October 05, 2005 09:04 am | ||
The first truck from left and the second truck from right are Ford 917T or 997T. The first truck from right and the fourth truck from right (and maybe the third truck from right) are Ford V 3000 (198TS or 188TS). The second one from left can be an Mercedes-Benz. |
| Posted by: Cantacuzino October 05, 2005 08:42 pm |
| Who can indentify the trailer ? ( and what company build it) http://imageshack.us |
| Posted by: Cantacuzino October 05, 2005 08:47 pm |
| Ford truck asembled at "Atelierele Ford" Bucuresti. Source: Mark Axworthy-Third Axis Fourth Ally. http://imageshack.us |
| Posted by: Bill Murray October 05, 2005 10:17 pm |
| Cantacuzina: Nice beute Bedford shot. Surely, you know the trailer is the famous one built in large numbers by the Oradea Farm Commune and exported all over Eastern Europe. Interesting Ford shot as well. Note the single rear wheels that seem to have the hub flanges for dual rear wheels. |
| Posted by: Cantacuzino October 06, 2005 07:53 am | ||
Bill, in my opinion it looks much like a Dodge 1938. What do you think? Dodge 1938 (source internet) http://imageshack.us |
| Posted by: mgc151184 October 06, 2005 09:22 am | ||
I think you have right,Cantacuzino,the car is a 1938 Dodge D8. |
| Posted by: Carol I October 06, 2005 06:32 pm | ||
The "second car":  |
| Posted by: Bill Murray October 06, 2005 08:28 pm |
| I believe both of you are correct on the Dodge ID. I found a book with a lot better photos than my first attempt and the determining ID points are that the Dodge has a slightly different grille and that the louvres on the side of the hood end in a straight line and those on the Plymouth have a slight slant at the back end. Good job my friends. As to the last photo, the second car behind the Cadillac appears to me to be a Horch, probably an 850 series although I am not too good on these cars. Cheers Bill |
| Posted by: Cantacuzino October 06, 2005 09:48 pm |
| In Brasov near hotel ARO. What truck is this ? Fiat !! http://imageshack.us |
| Posted by: Cantacuzino October 06, 2005 09:51 pm |
| Henschel trucks ( pulling Vickers 75mm ??) http://imageshack.us |
| Posted by: mgc151184 October 07, 2005 08:17 am | ||
Renault AGR |
| Posted by: Kepi October 07, 2005 09:10 am | ||
In 1939 the Romanian Ministry of Defence ordered 1320 3 tons Ford trucks to “S.A.R. Ford Romana” plant. 1000 more Ford trucks were ordered in 1940 with other 488 Ford-Marmon, 4x4, artillery tractors for AA units. Single rear wheels were common for Romanian army trucks after the war, because of tires shortage. |
| Posted by: Kepi October 07, 2005 09:12 am | ||
It seems these are Henschel 33G1, 6x4 medium trucks, towing Vickers 75 mm AA guns during the 10th May parade (1942 or 1943). Note the “I” initial on the registration plates, that indicate the vehicles belong to the Air State Subsecretariate. |
| Posted by: dragos October 07, 2005 09:39 am | ||
You probably mean 'A' , from Air. |
| Posted by: mihnea October 07, 2005 10:05 am | ||
It is a Renault AGK or AGR. In the pictures you can only see the military type, with out the bumper and other chrome parts. http://imageshack.us AGR Source http://www.autogallery.org.ru/m/renagr.htm http://imageshack.us AGK Source http://www.autogallery.org.ru/m/renagk.htm |
| Posted by: Cantacuzino October 07, 2005 10:27 am | ||
The civil one looks like fuel truck version. |
| Posted by: Kepi October 07, 2005 11:30 am | ||||
Yes, indeed. I'm sorry. |
| Posted by: Cantacuzino October 11, 2005 11:02 pm |
| SSA open cab Ford trucks. Courtesy D.M. http://imageshack.us |
| Posted by: Victor October 13, 2005 06:57 pm |
| What truck is this the bridge engineers are pushing through the muddy roads of Bessarabia? Is it a Skoda? Source: Signal magazine  |
| Posted by: dragos October 13, 2005 07:15 pm | ||
It's an Austro Daimler  Source: http://www.autogallery.org.ru/gothers.htm See this: http://www.worldwar2.ro/forum/index.php?showtopic=1245 |
| Posted by: Victor October 13, 2005 07:20 pm |
| Forgot about that thread. Thanks. |
| Posted by: Cantacuzino October 14, 2005 03:53 am |
| Opel Blitz trucks from a SSA unit. Note the "four-leaf clover" probably a unit emblem. Courtesy D.M. coll. http://imageshack.us |
| Posted by: Kepi October 14, 2005 07:50 am | ||||
The Austro-Daimler ADGR (“R” from Rumanien ?) type 640 was a 6 x 6 autotractor, 6-cyl. 53 hp , total weight 2450 ( + 2600) kgs, 5300 x 1730 x 2300 mm, max speed 70 kms/hr. It seems that 361 vehicles were produced by Steyr-Daimler-Puch (1936-1940) mainly for export to Romania. It was a development of ADG truck produced in 1932-1935. According “Autovehiculele in Armata Romana”, in June 1941 Romanian army had 50 ADGR trucks |
| Posted by: Victor November 04, 2005 12:35 pm |
What vehicles are these? |
| Posted by: Bill Murray November 04, 2005 01:32 pm |
| Morning Victor: I believe your first vehicle is a Standard Medium Personnel car made by Horch and Opel. The vehicle following appears to be an American/Romanian Ford judging by position of the headlamps, the louvres in the hood/bonnet and the style of the front wheels. Cheers Bill |
| Posted by: Victor November 04, 2005 02:48 pm |
| Thanks, Bill. |
| Posted by: C-2 November 11, 2005 07:34 pm |
| What trucks are those? http://imageshack.us |
| Posted by: Dénes November 11, 2005 08:20 pm |
| I don't know about the truck (a civilian one?), but the airplane remains appear to be of a Bf 109E. Do you have a date for it? Gen. Dénes |
| Posted by: C-2 November 11, 2005 08:24 pm |
| Sorry,no.. On sunday,Dicesare will visit me.I'll ask him. |
| Posted by: Cantacuzino November 11, 2005 08:59 pm | ||
The one with the plane wrecks it'a Ford truck. The other could be french bus/truck ( Citroen ?) |
| Posted by: mihnea November 11, 2005 10:08 pm |
| The one in the foreground is a Citroen T23 or a Peugeot. |
| Posted by: Bill Murray November 11, 2005 10:21 pm |
| Evening friends: Opinions, opinions, always opinions. So, it is my opinion that the truck on the right is a Romanian military Ford and the bus is a French Latil, probably an M2B. I will try to post a scan or two when I have a little more time. Regards Bill |
| Posted by: mihnea November 12, 2005 06:44 am |
| You are right Bill, but I think it is an M1B1 not M2B (probably 3). http://imageshack.us M1B1 (this one hasn't the front bumper like in the picture posted by C-2) http://imageshack.us M2B3 (this one has the front bumper) Both pictures from http://www.avant-train-latil.com/. |
| Posted by: Bill Murray November 12, 2005 11:23 am |
| Thank you Mihnea: Certainly one or the other. Always hard to tell with just a direct frontal view. Makes it easy to identify the maker but not always the model. In any case, I think we did a good job of detective work. Not many Latils were made and it is rare to see a photo of one. Regards Bill |
| Posted by: mihnea November 12, 2005 05:33 pm | ||
It was a pleasure working with you.
Especially in Romania. |
| Posted by: Cantacuzino November 12, 2005 08:43 pm | ||
Another (old model ) Latil truck in romanian service. http://imageshack.us |
| Posted by: Cantacuzino November 12, 2005 09:13 pm | ||
Hi Bill, Glad to hear you again. I have some work for you. What car is this.Cheers, Dan. http://imageshack.us |
| Posted by: C-2 November 12, 2005 09:33 pm |
| It's a 1939 Chrysler |
| Posted by: C-2 November 12, 2005 09:36 pm |
| http://imageshack.us Source: http://www.autogallery.org.ru/chrysler.htm [edited by admin] |
| Posted by: mihnea November 12, 2005 09:51 pm | ||
C-22 Royal Don't forget the suorce of the picture: http://www.autogallery.org.ru/chrysler.htm |
| Posted by: Bill Murray November 13, 2005 12:13 pm |
| C-2 is of course correct. I was sleeping when I should have been surfing. And by the way, the "opinions, opinions, always opinions" was a joke Sorry I have not been around for a while, but I just had not come up with any new Romanian materiel. Just waiting for another detective job and I fall asleep on the job. Bad on me. Regards Bill |
| Posted by: Cantacuzino November 13, 2005 02:32 pm | ||
Sorry Bill, The question was adressed to you, but C-2 wanted so much the reward ( one beer ) and he didn't sleep all night waiting for this question.  Cheers, Dan. |
| Posted by: Cantacuzino November 14, 2005 11:05 am |
| Romanian military Ford bus. http://imageshack.us |
| Posted by: Cantacuzino November 14, 2005 11:10 am |
And for C-2 and Bill.  What year it's this rusty Ford. http://imageshack.us |
| Posted by: Bill Murray November 14, 2005 11:46 am |
| Good Morning friends: Your Ford is of the 1933/34 year model and could well be of Russian manufacture. Regards Bill |
| Posted by: C-2 November 14, 2005 01:13 pm |
| The way the back door is closing,it is surely Russian! |
| Posted by: Cantacuzino November 14, 2005 01:17 pm | ||
Thanks Bill I think the B&W negative was reversed. Judging by the position of steering wheel, and number plate. |
| Posted by: C-2 November 14, 2005 01:17 pm |
| What truck is that? http://imageshack.us Photo:Seban Dutescu. |
| Posted by: Cantacuzino November 14, 2005 01:19 pm |
| It's an SSA fuel truck |
| Posted by: mgc151184 November 14, 2005 04:56 pm | ||
It's a French Laffly fuel truck. |
| Posted by: C-2 November 14, 2005 05:13 pm |
| can you decide? |
| Posted by: mgc151184 November 14, 2005 05:49 pm | ||
The truck is a French Laffly of S.S.A (Subsecretariatul de Stat al Aerului) |
| Posted by: C-2 November 14, 2005 08:17 pm |
| http://imageshack.us Another quiz: What car is that? |
| Posted by: mihnea November 14, 2005 08:41 pm |
| It’s an Adler Trumpf-Junior. http://imageshack.us From: http://www.autogallery.org.ru/adltrjun.htm |
| Posted by: C-2 November 14, 2005 08:50 pm |
| If you tell me who the driver is.... |
| Posted by: mihnea November 14, 2005 09:13 pm |
| I sure he is a fighter pilot and I don’t know many Romanian fighter pilots in fact only two: Alexandru Serbanescu and Constantin “Bazu” Cantacuzino. So I’m gambling on Serbanescu. |
| Posted by: C-2 November 14, 2005 09:23 pm |
| Mihnea-0 points! |
| Posted by: mihnea November 14, 2005 09:44 pm |
| Not fair it should be 0,5 I guest the car. |
| Posted by: C-2 November 14, 2005 09:51 pm |
| 10( Dix point)pour le voiture. O point pour le pilot. Serbanescu was more "well built" and was bold. And you wouldn't see Cantacuzino in such a junk car. |
| Posted by: mihnea November 14, 2005 10:24 pm |
| Ten points is enough for now, so please tell me who the guy is, I’m getting nervous? |
| Posted by: Victor November 15, 2005 11:26 am |
| It's Sorin Tulea in his personal Adler Junior. |
| Posted by: mihnea November 15, 2005 04:35 pm |
| Thanks for the info Victor; Florin Tulea was a fighter pilot? |
| Posted by: Dénes November 15, 2005 05:07 pm | ||
Sorin Tulea was a bomber pilot. He passed away recently. Gen. Dénes |
| Posted by: mihnea November 15, 2005 05:50 pm |
| Oops sorry for messing his name. PS I think we are way off-topic. |
| Posted by: Victor November 15, 2005 06:38 pm |
| See here: http://www.worldwar2.ro/arr/?article=741 C-2 let's get back on topic and leave the quizes aside. |
| Posted by: dragos December 08, 2005 08:28 am |
Skoda 6ST6L (Skoda H) used by Romanian Army (posted on http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?p=811743#811743) |
| Posted by: athon December 08, 2005 05:25 pm | ||
Hello, I am looking for more informations about this truck ! If you got photos/scans/plans... please post or send them to me Thanks, Best Regards, Xavier. |
| Posted by: mihnea December 08, 2005 06:15 pm |
| Pictures from MMN. The truck and it’s trailer are in very poor condition. http://imageshack.us http://imageshack.us PS I have more detailed pictures of it if you are interested in details. |
| Posted by: athon December 08, 2005 07:19 pm |
| Oh, Yes More please ! you can E-mail me the others Thanks for these one Best Regards, Xavier |
| Posted by: mihnea December 09, 2005 05:43 pm |
| Here you go: The rear Notek light on the trailer. http://img185.imageshack.us/my.php?image=032vl1.jpg The rear Notek light on the trailer. http://img185.imageshack.us/my.php?image=047vm.jpg Trailer axel (image from the back). http://img185.imageshack.us/my.php?image=058kj.jpg Rear axel of the truck. http://img185.imageshack.us/my.php?image=064ar1.jpg http://img185.imageshack.us/my.php?image=070fa.jpg http://img185.imageshack.us/my.php?image=085wr.jpg http://img185.imageshack.us/my.php?image=094dl.jpg PS All pictures ar from MMN. |
| Posted by: athon December 10, 2005 08:52 am |
| thank you very much for the photos mihnea ! What is MMN ?? Best regards, Xavier |
| Posted by: Victor December 10, 2005 09:12 am |
| Muzeul Militar National = National Military Museum |
| Posted by: athon December 11, 2005 02:52 pm | ||
Thanks for the information |
| Posted by: athon December 29, 2005 07:11 am | ||
Hello, Do you know a contact for this Museum, E-mail adress will be good... Thanks, Best regards, Xavier |
| Posted by: Kepi December 29, 2005 09:35 am |
| You could try: director@muzeulmilitar.ro But I think that most successful might be the fax: 0040 21 319 59 03. You can write your message in french or english. Good luck |
| Posted by: athon December 29, 2005 08:00 pm |
| Merci Kepi Xavier |
| Posted by: athon January 12, 2006 12:09 pm |
| Hello, I haven't succeed in contacting them. Someone could Take some more photos of this truck ? for more details, I try to make plans... Thanks, Best Regards, Xavier. |
| Posted by: Cantacuzino February 26, 2006 04:50 am |
| Romanian Ford Marmon truck returning from western front in '45. Source D.M. http://imageshack.us |
| Posted by: Cantacuzino February 26, 2006 04:52 am | ||
Right side details. http://imageshack.us |
| Posted by: Cantacuzino February 26, 2006 04:55 am |
| Romanian Austro Daimler truck returning from west front. Source D.M. http://imageshack.us |
| Posted by: Cantacuzino February 26, 2006 08:28 am |
| What type is this ? http://imageshack.us |
| Posted by: mihnea February 26, 2006 10:13 am |
| Easy, Tatra T93. http://www.autogallery.org.ru/m/tatra93.htm |
| Posted by: Cantacuzino February 26, 2006 10:15 am | ||
Thanks for I.D. |
| Posted by: Cantacuzino February 27, 2006 07:43 pm |
| What truck is this ? Skoda ? http://imageshack.us |
| Posted by: Cantacuzino February 27, 2006 07:53 pm |
| Audi ? http://imageshack.us |
| Posted by: Cantacuzino February 27, 2006 08:08 pm |
| Henschel truck. Courtesy D.M.coll. http://imageshack.us |
| Posted by: mihnea February 27, 2006 09:18 pm | ||
Praga RV: http://www.autogallery.org.ru/m/pragarv.htm. |
| Posted by: mihnea February 27, 2006 09:33 pm | ||
You are right, it's an Audi 920. |
| Posted by: Cantacuzino February 28, 2006 02:49 am | ||
Thanks for I.D. Below the back side of Praga RV. http://imageshack.us |
| Posted by: Bill Murray February 28, 2006 11:58 am |
| Hi Guys: I believ e your Audi is actually a Wander 23. Bill |
| Posted by: mihnea February 28, 2006 12:17 pm | ||
The two types are very similar, but as you can see from the enhanced picture, the Audi emblem is clearly visible. http://imageshack.us |
| Posted by: C-2 February 28, 2006 02:22 pm |
| Audi? I belive "Auto Union". Audi was created long after as a unification between Auto Union ,Horch,and NSU. |
| Posted by: mihnea February 28, 2006 03:25 pm | ||
In 1985 to be more exact. In 1932 Auto Union was created as a joined venture between Horch, Audi, DKW and Wanderer (I think now that the car posted by Cantacuzino is in fact a car built in two factories under different names: Audi 920 and Wanderer W23) after the war (1964) Auto Union name was dropped and the name used was "Audi NSU Auto-Union AG" until 1985 when it was changed to "Audi AG". Source: Wikipedia. |
| Posted by: Bill Murray February 28, 2006 10:34 pm |
| Hello again Gentlemen: Yes, Auto Union was formed with DKW, Audi, Wander and Horch. The emblem mentioned here was seen on every frontal photo that I have of the first three cars but not Horch. I assume as Horch was their luxury brand. It was three rings that I have always assumed meant the union of the first three companies. As to the photo in question, not to start any argument, but the grille on the Audi had horizontal bars and on the Wanderer they were vertical. The Audi grille was more or less straight on the edges from top to bottom, the Wanderer had a slight but noticeable inward curve as it came to the bottom. The Audi hood/bonnet had a very different appearance where it mated with the top of the grille. On the Wanderer it has a very distinctive clamshell mating. Hard to describe but you can see the difference in photos of the two cars. I still believe the car here is a Wanderer. Bill |
| Posted by: Agarici March 01, 2006 08:13 am |
| The things seem to be a bit more complex, as you can see below. The name Audi appeared in 1909-1910 (as a name for a car manufacturing company and for its products) and was used until WW 2, to start again being used in 1965. Sorry, the text is available in Romanian only. Source: the official Audi motor company (Romanian branch) website, http://www.audi.ro/historie.php "Putini stiu ca cele 'patru inele' - simbolul prezent pe fiecare automobil marca Audi - reprezinta semnul distinctiv al unuia dintre cei mai vechi producatori de automobile din Germania. Acesta simbolizeaza fuziunea in 1932 a patru producatori de autovehicule independenti pana la momentul respectiv: Audi, DKW, Horch si Wanderer. Ei se afla la originea actualei AUDI AG." "In anul 1909 au aparut neintelegeri intre August Horch si Consiliul de Administratie al uzinelor de automobile A. Horch & Cie. AG. Horch a parasit intreprinderea fondata de el. La scurt timp, la 16 iulie 1909, a infiintat in acelasi oras o a doua intreprindere, uzinele de automobile Horch GmbH. Litigiul privind numele a fost pierdut de Horch. Solutia problemei: traducerea numelui sau ("horch"= asculta, auzi) in latina ("audi"). La 25 aprilie 1910 noua denumire a firmei, Audiwerke GmbH, a obtinut personalitate juridica." "Una din cursele cele mai cunoscute ale acelor ani a fost Cursa Internationala a Alpilor Austrieci. In anul 1911, August Horch a participat pentru prima data la aceasta cursa cu un Audi si a castigat locul intai. Acest lucru l-a incurajat si, intre anii 1912 si 1914, a concurat impreuna cu o echipa Audi in aceasta competitie. Rezultatele nu au intarziat sa apara: in toti cei trei ani, Audi a castigat premiul pe echipe. La 27 iunie 1914, pilotilor Audi le-a fost inmanata Cupa Alpilor, ca urmare a celor trei victorii consecutive." "La 29 iunie 1932, cele patru marci de autovehicule din Saxonia, Audi, DKW, Horch si Wanderer au fuzionat, formand Auto Union AG cu sediul in Chemnitz. Noul concern a putut astfel sa deserveasca toate segmentele de piata, de la motocicleta usoara si pana la limuzina de lux." “La Salonul Auto de la Berlin - 1933, Auto Union SA (Auto Union AG) a prezentat cu noul Audi, primul ei automobil de clasa medie cu tractiune fata. Pentru prima data s-a facut uz de un fel de sistem modular si s-a utilizat motorul Wanderer in sase cilindri.” “1965 - numele Audi renaste. Odata cu trecerea la concernul Volkswagen, la Auto Union s-au incheiat toate lucrarile la motorul in doi timpi. Un motor in patru timpi cu patru cilindri - un asa-numit motor de presiune medie -, dezvoltat anterior sub regia Daimler-Benz, a fost montat pe ultimul model DKW F 102 si prezentat in vara anului 1965 ca Audi." "La 26 noiembrie 1968, Auto Union a invitat distribuitorii si presa la Stadttheater din Ingolstadt: a fost prezentat noul concept Audi 100. Cu noul model dezvoltat de directorul tehnic dr. Ludwig Kraus, Audi a patruns pentru prima data in segmentul de piata disputat al clasei medii superioare. Audi 100 a ajuns rapid un bestseller si a devenit baza unei noi generatii Audi, care a asigurat autonomia marcii Audi pentru viitor." "In martie 1969, NSU Motorenwerke AG, preluate cu putin timp inainte de VW, au fuzionat cu Auto Union GmbH din Ingolstadt formand Audi NSU Auto Union AG cu sediul in Neckarsulm." "1985 Audi NSU Auto Union AG devine AUDI AG. Dupa incetarea productiei modelului Ro 80 in 1977, s-a renuntat la folosirea numelui NSU pentru denumirea produsului. Cu incepere de la 1 ianuarie 1985, Audi NSU Auto Union AG a primit denumirea de AUDI AG. Totodata, societatea si-a mutat sediul de la Neckarsulm la Ingolstadt. Din acest moment, produsele si societatea poarta acelasi nume." |
| Posted by: Bill Murray March 01, 2006 12:30 pm |
| I would like to correct my earlier post. The Auto Union badge has 4 not 3 rings, thus representing all four companies. Also, further book and photo research shows that many but not all Horch photos I found last night also had the Auto Union badge. Sorry for my mis-information but I think I have it correct now. Bill |
| Posted by: C-2 March 08, 2006 06:40 pm |
| http://imageshack.us This truck was serving the pilots at Turnu Severin airfield. What is he ? A Citroen? |
| Posted by: Dénes March 08, 2006 07:56 pm |
| Yes, he is soldat Citroën. Gen. Dénes |
| Posted by: C-2 March 08, 2006 08:18 pm |
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| Posted by: Bill Murray March 09, 2006 01:43 am |
| Hallo Denes: Can you give us the model and year of this Citroen. I cannot find such in my books or photo archives although I do not doubt your identification. Just want to complete my reference materiel. bill |
| Posted by: Dénes March 09, 2006 04:50 am |
| Sorry, Bill. My reply was actually an (attemt for a) joke. That's why the smiley. C-2 asked: "What is he? A Citroen?" That's why I replied: "Yes, he is soldat Citroën." I am sorry for any confusion my reply may have caused. Gen. Dénes |
| Posted by: C-2 March 09, 2006 06:29 am |
| So it's a home made truck,built from a kit. |
| Posted by: AUTOMOBILIA March 09, 2006 06:22 pm |
| Nice forum , congratulations , I found many interesting informations here so I decide to post some photos from my archiev. Picture 1 http://imageshack.us |
| Posted by: AUTOMOBILIA March 09, 2006 06:33 pm |
| Picture 2 http://imageshack.us |
| Posted by: AUTOMOBILIA March 09, 2006 06:36 pm |
| Picture 3 I have a such STEYR car in my colection , but cabrio version. If somebody knows what sign it is on the front wing ..... http://imageshack.us |
| Posted by: AUTOMOBILIA March 09, 2006 06:38 pm |
| Picture 4 http://imageshack.us |
| Posted by: AUTOMOBILIA March 09, 2006 06:40 pm |
| Picture 5 http://imageshack.us |
| Posted by: AUTOMOBILIA March 09, 2006 06:42 pm |
| Picture 6 Bucharest near Bucur Obor in the 80's , a Kubelwagen with the original tyres !!!!!! at a historic cars meeting. http://imageshack.us |
| Posted by: mihnea March 09, 2006 07:03 pm |
| Hi AUTOMOBILIA Do you know if the kubel exists any more?? PS If you have more photos of kubels in Romania could you post them here: http://www.worldwar2.ro/forum/index.php?showtopic=2505 |
| Posted by: Dénes March 09, 2006 07:11 pm |
| Nice set of photos, AUTOMOBILIA. Thanks for sharing them with us. It would be nice if the types would be identified. Talking of VW Kübelwagen, do you, or anyone else, have photos of a Schwimmwagen in Rumanian service, if any? Gen. Dénes |
| Posted by: AUTOMOBILIA March 09, 2006 07:33 pm |
| Sorry the car was exported in 1991 or 1992. I have about 1000 pictures in my archiev, I must to scan again some , in time I'll post all the pictures who are from II WW . No schwimmwagen sorry . |
| Posted by: AUTOMOBILIA March 09, 2006 08:07 pm |
| Two trucks from my club RETROMOBIL CLUB ROMANIA, I used them several times in movies, Opel Blitz is my favourite .... http://imageshack.us |
| Posted by: AUTOMOBILIA March 09, 2006 08:10 pm |
| .... but Ford looks good too. The trucks are owned by a restoration firm, named OLDTIMER Studio. http://imageshack.us |
| Posted by: mihnea March 09, 2006 08:27 pm |
| I'm happy that not all WWII trucks were sold to foreigners in the 90's. Do you know if the trucks were bought from Romania? Are there any more WWII trucks in Romania? I saw once a, few years, ago a Russian Ford truck restored do you know anything about it? |
| Posted by: AUTOMOBILIA March 10, 2006 06:17 am |
| Both of theme are in Romania from '30s, Opel was in Sibiu (registration plates OS xxxx "Orasul Stalin" today Brasov) and Ford is from Bucharest. I don't know any other trucks, sorry only this one (from Recas fire brigade) in plus .... http://imageshack.us |
| Posted by: mihnea March 10, 2006 12:20 pm |
| Picture 1: Sd.Kfz. 7 Picture 2: Austro Daimler Picture 3: ?(very hard to tell) Picture 4: ? (I think Mercedes-Benz Tip 1700V) Picture 5: Tatra 92 Picture 6: kubel |
| Posted by: Bill Murray March 10, 2006 01:54 pm |
| Additional ID details. Half tracks are not my thing. ADGR built especially for Romania. Steyr 220 Std light cross country car KFZ1 built by BMW amongst others. Behind that car is a Tatra T93 built for Romania Next is another few Tatra T93 vehicles And, of course, the VW. Bill |
| Posted by: mihnea March 10, 2006 03:44 pm |
| One last addition; the truck behind the light command car KFZ1 is a Praga RV (look at the radiator and windows). |
| Posted by: Carol I March 10, 2006 04:22 pm | ||
It could be a unit symbol. Take a look at the discussion in the thread on http://www.worldwar2.ro/forum/index.php?showtopic=2506&view=findpost&p=40158. |
| Posted by: AUTOMOBILIA March 10, 2006 04:45 pm |
| Picture 3 : STEYR 200 for sure 100 http://www.zuckerfabrik24.de/steyrpuch/pics2/stp_s9.jpg 200 http://www.zuckerfabrik24.de/steyrpuch/pics2/st200_p15.jpg 220 http://www.zuckerfabrik24.de/album/pics/VL_Steyrb13.jpg |
| Posted by: Bill Murray March 10, 2006 11:02 pm |
| Mihnea: I stand corrected on the Praga, sorry. Automobilia: I find it very hard to tell the difference between a 200 and a 220 as I think the major difference was the engine, not the coachwork and the photo we are seeing is not very helpful. Anyway, we have the marque correct Bill |
| Posted by: AUTOMOBILIA March 11, 2006 07:15 am |
| 220 is longer than 100/200 , and has other types of wheels (with "heart" holes), wheelcaps, side panels of the engine compartment, front grill. I know that is off topic but I can't resist , I must to present you one of the most beautiful pictures from my collection (18Mai1919-Calimanesti-with a signature Petcu) http://imageshack.us |
| Posted by: Victor March 11, 2006 06:22 pm |
| The photos of Post-WWII trucks were moved to a new topic, here: http://www.worldwar2.ro/forum/index.php?showtopic=3029 |
| Posted by: Dénes March 14, 2006 03:47 am |
Here is another early Rumanian truck: [C. Bujor's coll.] Gen. Dénes |
| Posted by: Carol I March 14, 2006 07:54 am | ||
Does the SA around the cipher of Queen Maria stand for Serviciul de Ambulanţă or something similar? |
| Posted by: Carol I March 14, 2006 07:58 am | ||
How should one read the registration number on the side of the truck? What does M.R. stand for? What about the D. right above the number 2746? |
| Posted by: Kepi March 14, 2006 08:33 am |
| It was a “Serviciu de Autobrancarde” (“Motor-stretcher Service”) which was coordinated by Queen Mary. In 1917 it was installed at Onesti. Her cipher was painted on the vehicles sides. It was equipped with several dozens of motor vehicles. M.R. could mean "Ministerul de Razboi" ("Ministry of Defence") |
| Posted by: Carol I March 14, 2006 08:49 am | ||
Thanks Kepi for the reply. |
| Posted by: Peter March 16, 2006 10:54 am |
| Are the photos. of the AA trucks pre-war? I see roundels on the doors and the trucks seem to be in a French or Czech style camoflage. Are the AA guns 13mm Hotchkiss? Thanks. |
| Posted by: romrail April 09, 2006 10:18 pm |
| A photo I've just bought today. A Praga RV in Botosani 1941. http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/695/pragarv0yb.jpg Andrei Berinde collection |
| Posted by: Dénes August 21, 2006 09:14 pm |
| Is the truck shown in this photo a Rumanian one? The town doesn't look like a typical city in Rumania. Gen. Dénes  (Photo from the estate of a former German soldier). |
| Posted by: Bill Murray August 21, 2006 09:26 pm |
| Hi Denes: Goodness, I thought this thread had died and gone to heaven. I am no good at European locales outside of Scandinavia but the truck seems to be an Opel 1 tonner as an ambulance. Nice photo in any case Bill |
| Posted by: 109 January 23, 2007 05:20 pm |
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| Posted by: Bill Murray January 23, 2007 06:38 pm |
| Hi 109: Two nice shots of the 1937 American style Ford, these on the shorter wheelbase. You saw very few of these in prewar Europe but Rumania seems to have gotten a fair number of them. I have a Wheels & Tracks magazine at the house I will look at tonight that had an article on Rumanian trucks and particularly these 1937 models. If the photos are usable I will try to scan them in here. Bill |
| Posted by: mihnea January 23, 2007 08:23 pm |
| In the pre war era there was a Ford assembly plant in Romania so there were lots of Ford cars and trucks in Romania during WWII. The plant stopped produced when Romania entered the war and no more parts were sent and production stopped. I have a maintenance manual for cars and trucks made by Ford it's made especially for Romania (it has drawings featuring trucks with Romanian soldiers), printed in Romania in 1940. Unfortunately my father took care of it when he was a child so the first 12 pages and page 41 are missing also he added some color to the drawings... |
| Posted by: PanzerKing January 24, 2007 03:48 pm |
| I read that over 2,000 Ford trucks were produced during the war! We have heard two different things here Mihnea! |
| Posted by: mihnea January 24, 2007 08:52 pm | ||
I haven't heard anything, I have read about the Ford trucks assembled in Romania in Mark Axworthy's book "Third axis fourth ally " in the chapter "The build-up to war" quote: "At the outbreak of war assembly virtually ceased, and Ford Romania thereafter provided mostly repair and maintenance facilities." |
| Posted by: NDP May 10, 2007 12:08 am | ||
I liked this vehicle too, and managed to "squeeze" a bit of my camera arm in there for a shot of the workspace in the rear. What is just out of view to the extreme left in this shot is a drill press, one of the items for which that generator on the trailer came in handy.  |
| Posted by: ovichelu September 05, 2009 07:57 pm |
| Can annyone help me identify this truck . http://img168.imageshack.us/i/hurrypipera.jpg/ Source of pic : internet |
| Posted by: C-2 September 05, 2009 09:46 pm |
| Very hard to tell. MAybee a Matford util. |
| Posted by: Agarici September 06, 2011 09:49 am | ||||
The two pictures from the bottom of the first page of this topic (the AA trucks) were taken at 10 May 1940, at the National Day military parade. See also here: http://anr.infoideea.ro/basarabia1940/page8.html |
| Posted by: Kiasutha September 06, 2011 07:11 pm |
| I would be interested in any response to the first part of Iama's question- what are the AA machine guns on the Ford trucks? I'm reasonably sure they are some of the Hotchkiss 13mm's bought from France before the war. Both the 13 and 25mm Hotchkiss AA were available as twin-mounts, but I have never seen information as to how many of the guns purchased by Romania were of that type. Does any one know? Thanks, Jim R. |
| Posted by: Agarici September 07, 2011 08:11 am |
| In my oppinion we have a mount for two ZB light machine-guns in the first photo (with the guns installed right to the back of the cabin), and twin Hotchkiss 13mm MG's in the second. |
| Posted by: Kiasutha September 07, 2011 08:32 pm | ||
Thanks for the reply. I did not look very closely at the first photo- As you said it is certainly a different, lighter weapon. I have been wondering if vehicles like these might be the "motorized AAMG's" shown on organization charts as part of most artillery regiments... Jim R. |
| Posted by: misha4 November 06, 2011 09:36 am |
| Hello, I want to show to you some pictures, from a very large collection that, I think, would be a precious source for all. The images in are not of military trucks, but as a fellow forumer stated here earlier, many of the civil trucks were requisitioned by the army. https://www2.landesarchiv-bw.de/ofs21/bild_zoom/zoom.php?bestand=20946&id=1303779&screenbreite=1366&screenhoehe=738 If you use "Strukturansicht" at the top of the page you can go to the listing of images. So, my question, if not off-topic, would be: Can you help me identify some of this trucks? And more on topic, from the same source, a series of images from București during WW2: https://www2.landesarchiv-bw.de/ofs21/bild_zoom/zoom.php?bestand=20946&id=1304385&screenbreite=1366&screenhoehe=738 Please spent a little time on this site, I am sure that you will find interesting pictures. Thanks for your attention, Mihai |
| Posted by: PanzerKing November 07, 2011 04:53 pm |
| Is there any comprehensive statistics available on the the numbers of trucks by type in Romanian service? For example, how many Famos were purchased, how many Fords were obtained etc. I've seen very general numbers, for example that at the start of the war there were 3,000 motor vehicles used in the invasion of Russia, but no defined numbers. Thanks |
| Posted by: athon October 08, 2012 11:25 am | ||||
Hello, I would like to realise a kit of this truck, but I have no information about dimensions. Could someone give me the more information about this Skoda 6ST6 Truck ? Thanks Xavier |
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