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| Posted by: dragos August 24, 2004 06:19 pm |
| Some photographs recently acquired from the Military Museum.
R-35
R-2
TACAM T-60 |
| Posted by: mihai August 28, 2004 01:35 pm | ||
THose phtos are very good. Do you have the way to get the phtoso about this topics for reserches?. Mihai |
| Posted by: dragos August 28, 2004 08:51 pm | ||
These photos can be bought from the Romanian National Military Museum at the desired dimension on photographic paper, with the approval of the museum's director. |
| Posted by: dragos August 28, 2004 08:53 pm |
R-35 tanks transported by train.
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| Posted by: mihai September 05, 2004 03:24 am | ||||
Thank you Mihai |
| Posted by: Cantacuzino January 17, 2005 07:59 am |
| Loking for old pictures with Bucharest i found this at one of my friend. A parade with "Malaxa chenillette" in front of "Palatul Regal" ( Royal Palace) |
| Posted by: Iamandi January 17, 2005 08:37 am |
| This picture can give us a precise ideea about dimensions of the Malaxa UE! How much is the cost of this photos? Iama |
| Posted by: dragos January 17, 2005 08:42 am |
| Notice the trailers and the Schneider AT guns. |
| Posted by: dragos January 17, 2005 08:44 am |
TACAM T-60   From http://ww2photo.mimerswell.com/ |
| Posted by: Florin January 18, 2005 04:34 am |
| PzKpfw-IV E in philately... Source: Scan of personal stamp, at 600 ppi. |
| Posted by: AL Gun January 20, 2005 11:19 pm |
| Here is a romanian Panther [photo removed by admin] |
| Posted by: Florin January 21, 2005 02:03 am | ||
It cannot be a Panther, because of: 1. The width of the track shown in the photo. 2. The only Panthers the Romanians got were those captured between September 1944 and May 1945. In the photo the German soldiers are in a friendly relation with the guy on the tank. (Due to the color of the uniform, they may be not German. They can be Romanian soldiers only if the photo was shot before August 1944. This means that is not a Panther!) |
| Posted by: REGAL UNIFORMA COLECTOR January 21, 2005 04:07 am |
 A row of Tacom T-60 Tank Destroyers. |
| Posted by: REGAL UNIFORMA COLECTOR January 21, 2005 04:10 am |
 I do not recognize this model of tank. The sides of the tanks have a painted Michael cross insignia in white. |
| Posted by: Victor January 21, 2005 06:42 am | ||
Nothing is Romanian in that photo. The tank is German (notice the Balkenkreuz), I think a Pz IV, the soldiers are Germans. Furthermore, Romania only had Panthers in the early days of the Communist regime. Where did you get the photo? |
| Posted by: AL Gun January 21, 2005 08:07 am |
| Sorry for mistake. This is a another picture with the romanian Panther |
| Posted by: AL Gun January 21, 2005 08:30 am |
| Romanian soldiers near a russian T-34. Eastern front 1943 |
| Posted by: AL Gun January 21, 2005 08:41 am |
| A romanian Renault 35 tank to Military Museum in Bucharest |
| Posted by: dragos January 21, 2005 08:41 am | ||
The picture id very small, but by the rolling train they look like R-2 tanks. |
| Posted by: dragos January 21, 2005 08:42 am |
| AL Gun, those picture are already on the site, there is no need to post them again: http://www.worldwar2.ro/arme/?category=armor&language=en |
| Posted by: AL Gun January 21, 2005 09:18 am |
| Sorry again. I didn't see those pictures. *** several photographs posted by AL Gun without the owner's consent were removed *** |
| Posted by: Victor January 21, 2005 12:56 pm | ||
That's a R-1. The photo has been published in Armata Romana 1941-45 by C. Scafes, H. Serbanescu & Co, RAI, 1996. Where did you get the rest? |
| Posted by: Cantacuzino January 21, 2005 01:11 pm |
| Post removed by editor. |
| Posted by: dragos January 21, 2005 01:12 pm |
| The photographs of T-4 and Pathers are post-war. |
| Posted by: AL Gun January 21, 2005 01:22 pm |
| these picture is from a friend of mine. Do you want to know his name? |
| Posted by: AL Gun January 21, 2005 01:27 pm |
| These picture are from a friend of mine. His name is Dan Melinte |
| Posted by: Cantacuzino January 21, 2005 01:30 pm |
| Post removed by editor |
| Posted by: AL Gun January 21, 2005 01:37 pm |
| All my sorry but I didn't know that whose from his collection. After I have check the source I realised that was from Melinte"s collection. |
| Posted by: AL Gun January 21, 2005 01:39 pm |
| I"ll ask him all my apologises |
| Posted by: REGAL UNIFORMA COLECTOR January 21, 2005 01:53 pm | ||||
The uniforms to me were not very clear in the photo. Under a magnifier the painted cross on the tanks look to be the Michael cross. Applied in the same area of the tank as well. Photo source : Original postcard photo found in Romania. What does the Balkin cross look like on the sides of the tanks ? What unit would have had this insignia. |
| Posted by: Cantacuzino January 21, 2005 01:54 pm |
| Post removed by editor. |
| Posted by: Cantacuzino January 21, 2005 01:58 pm |
| Post removed by editor. |
| Posted by: dragos January 21, 2005 02:00 pm | ||||||
Are you talking about the color photo with the infantry near the tank? The tank has the German marking, where do you see Michael cross? |
| Posted by: dragos January 21, 2005 02:05 pm |
This is Balkenkreuz (Denes' avatar) |
| Posted by: Cantacuzino January 21, 2005 02:14 pm |
| Post removed by editor. |
| Posted by: Dénes January 21, 2005 04:36 pm | ||||
Now, with the photos from Dan M.'s collection now posted on the internet, without the source being clearly displayed on the scans with large letters, they will probably be stolen shortly. As a consequence, these rare photos will probably be spread all over the internet, perhaps included in some publications, too, without the original source being properly credited. It's a bad practice. Pity... Gen. Dénes P.S. My above message is not directed to anyone in particular, as Mr. Gun erroneously believed. It's only a general note on how one should, or should not, post scans on the internet and the dangers involving it. |
| Posted by: dragos January 21, 2005 07:15 pm |
| A series of off-topic posts has been deleted. |
| Posted by: Andrew January 21, 2005 07:50 pm |
| Hello Gents, The small photo of the column of tanks posted by Regal Uniforma Colector appear to be Hungarian 40M Turán's. Regards Andrew |
| Posted by: dragos January 21, 2005 07:52 pm |
| I hope REGAL UNIFORMA COLECTOR can provide a better scan for clarification. |
| Posted by: Victor January 22, 2005 11:31 am |
| The last surviving T-4 tank of the Stalingrad campaign at the parade on 10 May 1943. In front of it, in the distance, are the 105 mm Schneider model 1936 guns towed by Skoda trucks. At the official tribune, from left to right: King Mihai I, Marshal Ion Antonescu, Mihai Antonescu Photo is from Signal magazine |
| Posted by: Victor January 22, 2005 11:33 am |
| TACAM T-60s at the same parade, also from Signal magazine. |
| Posted by: Ruy Aballe January 22, 2005 02:52 pm | ||
Definitely. Those tanks are Hungarian 40M Turán's. Just look at the size and the shape of the turret. Ruy |
| Posted by: Dénes January 22, 2005 04:52 pm |
| All I could find on my hard drive was the prototype of the Turán 43M. Gen. Dénes |
| Posted by: REGAL UNIFORMA COLECTOR January 23, 2005 02:24 am | ||
 Close up photo. The cross on the tank still looks like the Michael cross in all white and not the Balkin cross. |
| Posted by: REGAL UNIFORMA COLECTOR January 23, 2005 02:30 am |
 Skoda R-2, model 1943, 76.2 mm. Source : Istoria Militara A Poporului Roman, Volume VI, Editura Militara, Bucharesti, 1989. |
| Posted by: REGAL UNIFORMA COLECTOR January 23, 2005 02:32 am |
 Skoda R-2. Same source. |
| Posted by: REGAL UNIFORMA COLECTOR January 23, 2005 02:34 am |
 Renault 35. Same source. |
| Posted by: REGAL UNIFORMA COLECTOR January 23, 2005 02:36 am |
 Renault F.T. 17 Same source. |
| Posted by: mihai January 23, 2005 01:42 pm | ||
OH,This is very rare M43turan tank,and this is complete! Great Mihai |
| Posted by: mihai January 23, 2005 01:44 pm | ||||
This is M 40 Hungarian Turan tank. MIhai |
| Posted by: dragos January 24, 2005 04:19 pm |
| The following photographs are courtesy of Dan Melinte (source: National Military Museum and National History Museum). Repairing a T-4 tank (Panzerkampfwagen IV Ausf G) |
| Posted by: dragos January 24, 2005 04:21 pm |
| Post war photograph of a T-4 tank. The soldiers on the tank have Soviet style uniforms. |
| Posted by: dragos January 24, 2005 04:30 pm |
| T-4 tank at the parade of 10 May 1946 |
| Posted by: dragos January 24, 2005 04:30 pm |
| T-4 tanks at the same parade. |
| Posted by: dragos January 24, 2005 04:32 pm |
| Panther A at the same parade. |
| Posted by: Dénes January 24, 2005 04:38 pm |
| Can someone identify the types of the AFVs shown in this and the following photo? Supposedly, both photos were taken in Rumania. Gen. Dénes |
| Posted by: Dénes January 24, 2005 04:39 pm |
| Second photo. |
| Posted by: dragos January 24, 2005 05:06 pm | ||
I believe it is a TK/TKS Polish tankette. |
| Posted by: boonicootza January 24, 2005 05:36 pm |
| This one was for sale on eBay some time ago. |
| Posted by: dragos January 25, 2005 04:23 pm | ||
It seems that both pictures shows Polish armor. If they were shot in Romania, then I presume they are part of the Polish army that seek refuge in Romania in 1939. |
| Posted by: woj January 25, 2005 06:54 pm | ||
Wrong. Photos had to be taken during raid of the Polish tankettes (TKS and TK-3), tanks Renault FT-17, motocycles, etc. to Romania, which took place from 23 September to 6 October 1934. |
| Posted by: dragos January 25, 2005 07:18 pm | ||||
Thanks for clarification, woj. On the sides of the armored car I notice it is painted a cockade. What is it? |
| Posted by: woj January 25, 2005 09:38 pm | ||
Tactical signs. Wheel (first car on the right, isn't it?) - first platoon. On the left - looks like platoon second-in-command car. BTW - there are TKS tankettes placed on Ursus truck chassis - autotransporters, not AFVs.  |
| Posted by: Iamandi January 26, 2005 10:18 am | ||||
Woj, What was the name of this combination? How many units were produced? You have pictures wih polish takettes converted for railways? It is a verry interesting combination of vechicles and propulsion (more precise: transmition) systems. But how ... tankettes are going up on this system? You, polish guys, from you inspired Hitler engineers when combined two planes in Mistel system!  How much speed can attain this vechicle? Was used in fight "up on wheels"? Iama |
| Posted by: dutch helmet January 27, 2005 06:28 pm |
| Al gun,first that is not a Panther,because of the narrow tracks,second,it's got the german black cross,third,you can see the german helmet up on the tank. |
| Posted by: Jeff_S January 27, 2005 07:09 pm | ||
Iamandi, http://republika.pl/derela/drais.htm There are several pictures of Polish tank/rail combinations on Michal Derala's excellent site. Good descriptions too, discussing both the technical aspects and how they were used operationally. Incidentally his links page is how I found THIS site. |
| Posted by: woj January 27, 2005 07:37 pm | ||
Jeff S is right. Another useful site: http://www.linux-penguin.org/achtungpanzer/pol/poltk.htm Woj |
| Posted by: mihai February 12, 2005 12:42 pm |
| Can you tell the issued number of the signal? Mihai |
| Posted by: mihai February 12, 2005 12:43 pm | ||
Please tell the issued number of the signal? Mihai |
| Posted by: Victor February 12, 2005 12:56 pm |
| No, I don't have it. Somebody else scanned them. |
| Posted by: C-2 February 20, 2005 06:24 pm |
| Romanian soldiers on a cptured PZ V Panther in Chehoslovakia Mai 45. |
| Posted by: Dénes March 11, 2005 07:40 pm |
I accidentally came upon a new book published in the Czech Republic: 'Praga Export Tankettes', by Vladimir Francev, MBI Publ. 2004. Development of the various Praga tankettes sold to Ethiopia, Iran, Rumania and Sweden. 80 pages, softbound, many previously unpublished photographs, detailed plans, color plates, tables, etc. Gen. Dénes |
| Posted by: Dénes March 11, 2005 08:12 pm |
A colour page from the book. Gen. Dénes |
| Posted by: webmastersignal March 16, 2005 07:39 pm | ||||||||
It's a very famous color pics of Signal |
| Posted by: Dénes March 24, 2005 02:40 am |
| Today I received the Czech book presented above. It's very nicely done, high quality printing, 80 pages, incl. colour schemes of various Rumanian tankettes. One photo shows R-1, Sr. 31, captured by Soviet troops, reportedly near Odessa. Another one, Army No. 011502, also fell into Soviet hands. Does anyone know when did these happen? Gen. Dénes |
| Posted by: dragos March 24, 2005 08:03 am | ||||
I think it is the same photo that could have been seen on the battlefield.ru website (temporary down). It was discussed previously in the topic "Internet photo gallery" and I wrote:
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| Posted by: Dénes March 24, 2005 03:17 pm | ||
One of the photos is the same, but the other one is new (to me). They show two different R-1 tankettes, however. Gen. Dénes |
| Posted by: mihai March 28, 2005 08:31 am |
| This book is great,But ,There are few information about rumanian R-1 Mihai |
| Posted by: Ruy Aballe April 01, 2005 01:37 pm |
| Dénes and Mihai (also Dragos, of course), This is a bit off-topic, but since a recent book has been discussed in the above posts, with some info in what pertains the Romanian content (which seems to be quite smallish), I would like to suggest a specific review topic where we could be informed, in deeper detail, about books being read by fellow members. The review itself could include a sort of fixed technical data on the book itself, such as the title, the author(s) name(s), publishing house, local of publication and year. The ISBN can be a useful detail too. What do you think? Ruy |
| Posted by: MaxFax April 02, 2005 05:46 pm | ||
Title: Praga Exportni Tanciky / Praga Export Tankettes Author: Vladimir FRANCEV Publishing House: MBI (Miroslav BILY) Praha 2004 fully bi-lingual text (Czech-English), 80 pages, dimmensions 20,5cm/28,5cm, soft cover. Source of aquisition: http://www.mpmshop.cz/ Price: ~ 10 euro |
| Posted by: Victor April 02, 2005 05:51 pm |
| Topic for book reviews: http://www.worldwar2.ro/forum/index.php?showtopic=2026 |
| Posted by: nox August 11, 2005 07:42 am |
 some infos "T26. A number of these Soviet tanks were captured by the Romanian Army in the summer of 1941 and impressed into service, with thirty-three appearing on a list of AFV's in Romanian hands as of 1st November 1942. However, their mechanical unreliability, exacerbated by a chronic shortage of much-needed spares for captured vehicles, soon forced their withdrawal from service." New pictures and infos are always welcomed! I'm looking for a bookshop where I could buy "Armata Romana 1941-1945", RAI, Bucharest 1996" as Pascal |
| Posted by: dragos August 11, 2005 11:02 am | ||
Interesting picture. What is the source of the text? |
| Posted by: dragos August 11, 2005 11:06 am |
| I've got it. It's from here: http://orbat.com/site/sturmvogel/romafv.html |
| Posted by: mihai August 14, 2005 08:01 am |
| Geat Photos! Mihai |
| Posted by: PanzerKing August 20, 2005 06:16 pm |
If anyone would like to contribute a picture to my site http://pazers.tk since I own no Romanian tank photos, you're more than welcome.  I'll give full credit of course and your contribution would greatly be appreciated. I have Italian & Hungarian tanks but no Romanian.  |
| Posted by: nox August 21, 2005 10:06 am |
R35 from ebay  http://cgi.ebay.de/Technik-Foto-Panzer-Tank-in-Rumaenien-k647_W0QQitemZ6202472880QQcategoryZ15504QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem   |
| Posted by: Carol I August 21, 2005 03:07 pm | ||
Parading under the Triumphal Arch in Bucharest. The seller seems to have many photos from the same parade. Does anyone know the occasion? King Mihai, Marshal Antonescu, the minister for foreign affairs Antonescu and a German general were participating. |
| Posted by: PanzerKing August 21, 2005 04:58 pm |
| Yes I'm aware of the fact that Romanian tank photos are for sale on Ebay. I was just offering a place to post tank photos incase someone had some they'd like to share. The main goal of my site is to provide people with info on Germany's allies, especially since Romania's involvement seems to be devoid in the west. |
| Posted by: Dénes August 21, 2005 07:38 pm |
Here's another photo from eBay of various Rumanian tanks on a parade. Gen. Dénes |
| Posted by: nox January 17, 2006 07:06 am |
 R1 picture from ebay  |
| Posted by: Dénes February 23, 2006 07:40 pm |
| I found this interesting photo on a Hungarian military forum (roncskutatás). It looks to me that two Rumanian Renault 35s are attempting to tow a captured Soviet tank (BT-2?). Gen. Dénes  |
| Posted by: cristi February 23, 2006 08:22 pm |
| The tank from the right have a number painted in front. This is not clear but the position is a Romanian pattern and the man up to the turret of BT have a helmet which isn't a German pattern. |
| Posted by: dragos February 23, 2006 09:41 pm |
| This photo is well known. It was published in "Third Axis, Fourth Ally", "Armata Romana 1941-1945", and even on this site. http://www.worldwar2.ro/arme/?article=237 |
| Posted by: AUTOMOBILIA March 11, 2006 07:56 am |
| Some tanks from AUTOMOBILIA archiev SKODA (CZ) http://imageshack.us |
| Posted by: AUTOMOBILIA March 11, 2006 07:57 am |
| T4 (RU) http://imageshack.us |
| Posted by: Victor March 11, 2006 09:20 am |
| Actually the last tank is a BT-7. See also: [URL] http://www.worldwar2.ro/forum/index.php?showtopic=2920[/URL] |
| Posted by: nox March 12, 2006 12:14 pm |
really nice pictures automobilia  please continue  R2 from ebay  |
| Posted by: AUTOMOBILIA March 12, 2006 12:27 pm |
| Unfortunately is all I have about tanks |
| Posted by: Dénes March 12, 2006 02:54 pm |
| How about some airplane photos, AUTOMOBILIA? Gen. Dénes |
| Posted by: AUTOMOBILIA March 12, 2006 04:33 pm |
| Sorry my archiev is 99,99% with materials about cars. |
| Posted by: dragos March 13, 2006 05:31 pm | ||
And in the right you can see the rear of a "Komsomolets" Tractor. (See http://www.worldwar2.ro/arme/?article=247) |
| Posted by: romrail March 19, 2006 10:44 pm |
Here's the photo of a knocked down russian sherman. The text under the actual image says: Soviet tank knocked down by romanian anti-tank defense". |
| Posted by: romrail March 19, 2006 10:51 pm |
Another photo showing a romanian soldier near a knocked T26. Image from my personal collection. |
| Posted by: Victor March 20, 2006 07:12 am |
| Welcome to the forum romrail. Please get acquainted with the http://www.worldwar2.ro/forum/index.php?act=boardrules. They require you to state the source of the images you post. |
| Posted by: horia March 20, 2006 10:32 am | ||
the doldier from right from what period is.befor or after 1945? |
| Posted by: SiG March 20, 2006 09:19 pm |
| He can't be from after 1945. He is standing next to captured Soviet AFVs that would have been "liberated" by the Russians before that date. The photo should be from between 1941-1944. |
| Posted by: dragos March 20, 2006 09:34 pm | ||
I tend to agree with Sig. The uniform looks like the standard tank troops during WW2, and the place looks like an yard of captured Soviet armour. |
| Posted by: sid guttridge April 03, 2006 02:21 pm |
| Hi Guys, The fact that the tank is a BT7 tells us that the photo is unlikely to be from later than 1942. The Red Army had few BT7s left in frontline service by the end of that year and most Romanian captures of Soviet tanks seem to have been in 1941-42. Cheers, Sid. |
| Posted by: Carol I July 08, 2006 10:41 am |
| The Mateiaşi tank (from eBay) http://cgi.ebay.com/Romania-kingdom-military-photo-ww1-Tank-very-rare_W0QQitemZ230004680150QQihZ013QQcategoryZ135QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem |
| Posted by: mihai July 09, 2006 02:31 am | ||
the seller write "this tank is Rumanoan one." Is it true? Is tHis French style of write nickname of a tank usual? MIhai |
| Posted by: Carol I July 09, 2006 08:15 am | ||
The early registration system was indeed to give tanks names of famous battles in Romanian history, as described in the book below.  Originally http://www.worldwar2.ro/forum/index.php?showtopic=2770 by Kepi |
| Posted by: nox September 20, 2006 07:02 pm |
 pz3 from ebay |
| Posted by: mihnea September 20, 2006 07:46 pm |
| That is a beautiful picture; I like three things about it: firstly the number plate painted on a brand new T III that is almost identical to another number plate painted on a similar T III (only one digit is different), secondly the soldier uses a single German ammo pouch and finally the way he wears the canteen. The picture is from late 1942. |
| Posted by: Victor September 21, 2006 05:56 am |
| There were at least another three T.3s with the registration number "U-03948...", all of which were lost during the 1942/43 campaign of the 1st Armored Division. |
| Posted by: mihnea September 21, 2006 02:39 pm |
| I'm not referring to the last digit but the fifth one. http://imageshack.us This is the picture, from Militaria Magazine Hors-Serie Nr22 "Dans L'enfer de Stalingrad" written by Yves Buffetaut. |
| Posted by: Florin September 22, 2006 03:23 am | ||||
I think "Mateiasi" is a word to be found only in Romanian language. |
| Posted by: Kepi September 22, 2006 05:29 am |
| “Mateiasi”, or “Mateias” (pronounced Mateiash) as it is known today, is the name of a mountain in the Southern Carpathians, near the city of Campulung, on the Bran-Rucar pass, where in autumn 1916 the romanian troops stopped for several weeks the attacks of the german forces who tried to invade Walachia. At Mateias is now a mausoleum (raised in 1927-1935) and a small museum that commemorates those fights. During the 1920s many armoured vehicles (mainly FT-17 tanks) bore the name of some important WW1 battles in Romania. |
| Posted by: Cantacuzino September 22, 2006 01:28 pm | ||
Mateias mausoleum. Picture courtesy Dan Melinte. http://imageshack.us |
| Posted by: MaxFax September 23, 2006 05:03 am | ||
What colour has this T3 tank ?! It seems very light ?! Panzergelb ?! You may see on the left side the small (tank) version of the Michael Cross. |
| Posted by: sschaky September 24, 2006 08:40 pm | ||
it's a german panzer 4. it's german, look at the chevron on the left side and at the helmet posted on the turret - it's a german helmet, not a french model with which the romanian army was fighting. none of the german panthers captured by romanian soldiers were functional. they had a system which rendered them useless after being knoked out or bogged in mud. an explosive charge destroys all the equipment inside the turret, all the gauges, etc... |
| Posted by: nox October 15, 2006 07:06 pm |
 source ebay link http://cgi.ebay.de/wk2-Rumaenischer-Panzer-SELTEN-TOP-FOTO-1_W0QQitemZ280038452839QQihZ018QQcategoryZ15504QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem |
| Posted by: nox January 06, 2007 12:54 pm |
I 'm not sure, but.... source ebay http://cgi.ebay.de/Foto-Panzer-70186_W0QQitemZ180071608919QQihZ008QQcategoryZ15504QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem |
| Posted by: mihai January 21, 2007 07:51 am | ||
I think that this is not Rumnaina Panzer.Look like German one. MIhai |
| Posted by: New Connaught Ranger January 21, 2007 10:12 am |
| The tank is a Czech 35(t) also known as Lz35, produced by the Czechs firm Skoda, large amounts were captured by the Germans, and it was also produced by the firm under German occupation. Kevin in Deva. |
| Posted by: nox January 21, 2007 11:31 am |
| thanks for info, but I have the book "Der Panzerkampfwagen 35 (t)" by Joachim Baschin and the book speaks about pz35t or R2 in rumanian service I think that the tanker look like romanian, michael cross, number identification on turret.   Source: http://www.worldwar2.ro the best ebayer on this picture is ordinul-mihai-viteazul, really romanian name I think that he thought the same thing as me |
| Posted by: New Connaught Ranger January 21, 2007 02:43 pm |
| Hallo Nox, The tank in the picture, is indeed is being used by Rumanians, but it was originaly made in the Skoda factory in Czechaslovakia, these were captured by the Germans and also produced in the factory under German management in WW2 The original Czech designation was: Lz35. The German designation being: Pk35(t) for Panzerkampfwagen35(t).* *(the (t) denotes Tecaslovakia, in the German language). And I have probably spelt it wrong too But both refer to the same type of vehicle. Kevin in Deva |
| Posted by: Kepi January 21, 2007 03:24 pm | ||||
The crew member seams to wear a Romanian armoured troops uniform. The beret is typical Romanian. In my opinion it’s a Romanian tank. |
| Posted by: nox January 22, 2007 09:31 pm |
R1 from ebay really nice |
| Posted by: mihai January 23, 2007 07:06 am | ||
THis foto of R-1 is very nice. But I wrote my experience honarly. Recently,I have damage by heartless persons,The person make the reprodaction by use ebay images without copyguard like this scans. The Other person in CANADA buy it via other auction,and The Other person offer a author of book that you can use the reprodaction in book. I won the original foto in ebay Germany paied proper price. I think that this act is unreasonable act but not illegal. I think that We need to use scans of internet auction without winner permittion. MIhai |
| Posted by: nox January 23, 2007 01:13 pm |
| I am agree with you mihai. But the other person in CANADA, is that sudek13? his ebayer name?  This person buys photographs enormously, but no picture appears in a book, lost for the world! If you want, you can wait publication with new pictures on romanian armor, or post some pictures when they are! |
| Posted by: mihai January 28, 2007 12:20 am | ||
EBAY ID sudek is very famus person with keen eyes.He knowthings about Rumanian AFVs very well. But The other person is in here. MIhai |
| Posted by: sample January 29, 2007 12:26 pm |
| i don't know if it was posted, but there is a pic with a skoda r1 captured near odessa here http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?t=113849 regards |
| Posted by: mihai January 30, 2007 01:10 pm |
| This is a famous foto about Rumanian R-1 tank from Russian Archive. MIahi |
| Posted by: romrail April 15, 2007 06:37 pm |
Now on sale on http://www.okazii.ro/catalog/3031113/obiecte-colectie/ilustrate-carti-postale/romania-dupa-1920/Romania-Brasov-Tancuri-germane-Panzer-III.html#div_photo  My oppinion is that the price asked for the image is too high. Seems that the prices for WWII photos have gone way to high for common buyers. |
| Posted by: Alexei2102 April 15, 2007 07:57 pm | ||
High as hell. With 100 EUR (the blitz price for this photo) - you could buy at least 10 German WW2 photos, and I am talking on average here. Weird price for a common picture. Al |
| Posted by: nox June 20, 2007 07:08 am |
 http://cgi.ebay.de/Orig-Foto-Rumaenischer-Panzer-Tank-Kette_W0QQitemZ290127891940QQihZ019QQcategoryZ15504QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem  http://cgi.ebay.de/Orig-Foto-rumaenische-Panzer_W0QQitemZ220122824761QQihZ012QQcategoryZ15504QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem |
| Posted by: nox June 24, 2007 05:22 pm |
 http://cgi.ebay.de/Altes-ORIG-FOTO-NEGATIV-ca-40er-J-PANZER-WAGEN_W0QQitemZ330139074820QQihZ014QQcategoryZ15504QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem made (or modified)with my fingers source tankomaster |
| Posted by: 21 inf June 24, 2007 06:59 pm |
| Nice job! Congratulations for the drawing! |
| Posted by: Victor June 25, 2007 08:47 am | ||
Interestingly I tried to bid on this photo, but my account was canceled after one day for braking eBay rules! It seems it is forbidden to bid if you are a Romanian  |
| Posted by: Dénes June 25, 2007 09:12 am | ||
Maybe your brakes were not up to eBay standards... Gen. Dénes |
| Posted by: nox June 26, 2007 05:52 am |
 http://cgi.ebay.de/orig-Foto-Beute-Panzerspaehwagen-Fahrzeug-Sd-Kfz-250-75_W0QQitemZ230145919496QQihZ013QQcategoryZ15504QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem In 1936, Praga built 7 TNSPE for Romania. Their armament was a mixture of riot control and lethal. Vz.26 machine gun and a water cannon, tank with 5000 liters of water. message from the seller: "Foreign bidders are welcome" Victor |
| Posted by: Victor June 26, 2007 05:57 am | ||
Tell that to ebay.de which suspended my account and made it clear that I am in no way to try to create a new one. |
| Posted by: New Connaught Ranger June 26, 2007 09:07 am |
| Hallo Victor, there must be a real reason why ebay.de suspended your account and not just simply the fact that you are Romanian I see quite a few Romanians buying and selling on ebay worldwide, as far as I know they do not accept Romanian Credit Cards as means of payment for fees, etc...etc... (neither do Pay-Pal, who are now part of the Ebay organisation). But I am unaware of Ebay being against any particular nationality, unless something serious has been done to contravene their rules and regulations. Kevin in Deva |
| Posted by: Victor June 26, 2007 09:53 am | ||
No, PayPal accepts Romanian cards both credit and debit. I used PayPal a couple of weeks ago with the same card I used on ebay.de I have no idea why they suspended the account and you can be sure that I didn't do anything illegal, unless bidding to an open auction is against ebay rules. Thus, from my point of view, the suspention was arbitrary and unjustified in any serious way. The only real reason I can think of is the incompetence of someone working for them, which wouldn't surprise me at all. What is even more completely without sense is that after receiving the suspention email, I also received an email with instructions on how to use ebay. |
| Posted by: dead-cat June 27, 2007 09:55 am |
| when ebay suspends something, often it doesn't have to do anything with their "policy" or whatsoever. the user help desk is, just like everywhere else, filled with low paid, incompetent, unmotivated individuals, who didn't find anything better, short of being unemployed. this is why (with few precious exceptions) useless to complain by mail. the mail will not be read and you'll get a standard reply and that's it. |
| Posted by: New Connaught Ranger June 27, 2007 04:56 pm |
| Well I have to say I am using ebay since 2001 without any problems. I originaly joined while living in Germany and have bid & sold on ebay worldwide with no problems so far. Kevin in Deva |
| Posted by: dragos June 28, 2007 11:14 am |
| Victor, is that you in the picture? http://www.evz.ro/article.php?artid=311502 |
| Posted by: nox July 22, 2007 05:55 pm |
| TNSPE 2 the come back in Timisoara http://cgi.ebay.de/orig-Foto-unbekannter-Panzer-Spaehwagen-Beute-Tank-76_W0QQitemZ230154780463QQihZ013QQcategoryZ15504QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem  |
| Posted by: C-2 July 22, 2007 08:35 pm | ||
Looks like him to me. |
| Posted by: Cantacuzino July 22, 2007 08:52 pm | ||
Very interesting the emblem on the car it is from " Politia Legionara" and the picture should date from 1940 before the rebelion. http://img231.imageshack.us/my.php?image=politialegionaraemblemqa9.jpg |
| Posted by: Cantacuzino July 26, 2007 07:47 pm |
| The first batch T-III and TIV from 22 tanks received by rom.in ' 42. Courtesy G-ral Dan Stoian. http://imageshack.us Shot at 2007-07-26 |
| Posted by: mihai August 26, 2007 02:21 am |
| Vey attractive foto.Do you have any foto about this scene? MIhai |
| Posted by: nox September 21, 2007 08:22 am |
R2 from http://cgi.ebay.de/Original-Foto-Panzer-2-Weltkrieg-deutsch_W0QQitemZ230173751678QQihZ013QQcategoryZ15504QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem |
| Posted by: mihai October 04, 2007 12:13 pm | ||
THis panzer is belongs to 2nd armar battalion.This panzer is famous one German took pictures! MIhai |
| Posted by: Alexei2102 November 03, 2007 05:52 pm |
| Renault FT 17 in Romanian Service in the thirties. Photo 1:  Source: my collection |
| Posted by: Alexei2102 November 03, 2007 05:53 pm |
Photo 2: Source: my collection. |
| Posted by: osutacincizecisidoi November 14, 2007 02:13 pm |
| Riveted armor ...Brr |
| Posted by: Messerschmitt January 03, 2008 10:27 am |
| I tend to belive they were used by a military school, regarding the big number of people and the small number of tanks. Plus that, the tanks don`t seem to have a camo pattern or any markings ( regiment or ID number) |
| Posted by: New Connaught Ranger January 03, 2008 10:42 am | ||
Hallo Messerschmitt, With the way the sunlight / glare is bouncing off the armour and the long distance in the other picture, it would be hard to tell if the vehicles are marked or not. Not all Military painted their tanks in camo styles, the German's first use of armour in WW2 was in drab grey paint the only camo being branches added to break up the out line of the vehicle. This could be a display of the tanks, in the between war period to Romanian military officers to show them what they could do or just to familiarise the Romanian officers about tanks. Kevin in Deva. |
| Posted by: Cantacuzino January 16, 2008 01:52 pm |
| Wheels from Tacam T-60 ? Mayby G-ral Denes could help with translation from the link http://www.netlabor.hu/roncskutatas/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=5533 http://imageshack.us |
| Posted by: mihnea January 16, 2008 03:14 pm |
| The Romanian design wheels for the TACAM T-60 were all steel with no rubber. Also the wheel is probably from a Pz I Ausf A (the rear wheel that's bigger) as the link suggests. |
| Posted by: Cantacuzino January 16, 2008 05:16 pm |
| Romanian R-35 with commander strip (yellow?) painted on turret. Picture Willy Pragher (Source : Staatsarchiv Freiburg nr 032319) http://imageshack.us |
| Posted by: Victor January 16, 2008 06:25 pm |
| I believe it is the light blue strip painted on the R-35s of the 2nd Tank Regiment |
| Posted by: mihnea January 16, 2008 06:33 pm |
| Might it be light blue? |
| Posted by: Cantacuzino January 16, 2008 07:31 pm | ||
More posible Yellow. you forgot that it is certain proof about yellow strip on other rom tanks (R-35 Vanator de care ). Why should be light blue strip ?http://imageshack.us http://imageshack.us |
| Posted by: Cantacuzino January 17, 2008 08:36 am |
| A platoon of Malaxa chenillette on mud roads in Basarabia.(Freiburg Staatsarchiv) http://imageshack.us |
| Posted by: MaxFax January 23, 2008 08:41 am |
On the www.cartula.ro/forum there is a hot debate if this are Pz 38 with Romanian markings or not ?! The lateral cross looks like Romanian's one or not ?!   |
| Posted by: New Connaught Ranger January 23, 2008 08:46 am |
| Tank number "714" seems to be carrying a swastika air recognition flag to the rear of the turret, possibly indicating they are German (unless Romanian tank units carried the same flags to aid the German Luftwaffe in identification??) Or is the flag on another vehicle parked at the side of the road and the tanks are passing them? Kevin in Deva. |
| Posted by: MaxFax January 23, 2008 09:07 am |
| Indeed there seems to be a flag with a swastika. BUT lets concentrate on the crosses !! There is a odd similaritie with the King Michael Cross, insn't it ?! |
| Posted by: Dénes January 23, 2008 09:14 am |
| Indeed, the side crosses look like Rumanian ones. I wouldn't put too much emphasys on the German flag on the rear engine of the tank(s), as if they advanced in an area where German aircraft were operating it's much clever to carry a flag which is well known to them, than to risk being bombed in error... Gen. Dénes |
| Posted by: dragos January 23, 2008 09:42 am |
| 713 and 714 seems to be German tank numbers as illustrated by the decals of this model kit: http://www.perthmilitarymodelling.com/reviews/vehicles/tristar/tri35020.htm |
| Posted by: Messerschmitt January 23, 2008 11:11 am | ||||
I know that not all of the tanks/armor was painted in camo, for ex. captured ft-17 were painted in panzer gray and they served to protect various objectives that could be a target to partisans. Altho, i`m not sure the tanks are "new" , because the tanks have round turret,the default one producet by Renault. After ww1 the turret was replaced with the Berliet type turret, wich was octogonal ( named after Berliet factory, which produced cars and vans) . Remember that Ro had some ft-17`s during ww1. |
| Posted by: mihnea January 23, 2008 04:44 pm |
| The two tank commanders have black uniforms, the Romanian uniforms were kaki and it's impossible to tell if the crosses are Romanian or not as the cockade is not visible, the picture is too grainy. |
| Posted by: Cantacuzino January 23, 2008 09:03 pm | ||
They are germans Pz38 for sure. Another mistake from the same site was with the picture ( below) where a german Pz 38 is also wrong indentified as been romanian. The white german crosses in blurry pictures looks like the white romanian crosses. http://imageshack.us |
| Posted by: MaxFax January 24, 2008 07:33 am | ||
I'm sooo sad !!! |
| Posted by: MaxFax January 25, 2008 06:54 am |
From our http://www.cartula.ro/forum/index.php?act=idx |
| Posted by: Victor January 25, 2008 08:57 am | ||
The 713 and 714 also do not make sense, because the T-38 battalion only had 3 companies: 51st, 52nd and 53rd (IIRC). |
| Posted by: boonicootza January 28, 2008 11:38 pm |
| http://imageshack.us http://cgi.ebay.de/Foto-Rumaenische-Panzer-2-WK-Nummernschild-011515_W0QQitemZ360015992206QQihZ023QQcategoryZ15504QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem |
| Posted by: MaxFax February 01, 2008 04:08 am | ||
The auction just ended at the final price of ... 140 euro  |
| Posted by: kaba-maru February 19, 2008 01:21 pm | ||||
Yes, it seems to be yellow. But isn't there possibility that it is whitened light-blue stripe covered by rust drip? |
| Posted by: Cantacuzino February 19, 2008 03:27 pm | ||
Anything is possible Possible white stripe covered by rust . But my question is why light-blue strip and not yellow or white strip ? If it is a company commander marking it should be three colors (3 companies) strips. Yellow, Blue and Red ? http://imageshack.us |
| Posted by: mihai February 23, 2008 04:02 am |
| Where the foto come from? MIHai |
| Posted by: Cantacuzino February 23, 2008 08:19 pm | ||
E-bay (Merenti) |
| Posted by: Dénes March 21, 2008 10:59 pm |
The following photo is currently sold on eBay as... Hungarian armour. It's obviously not, but I am wondering what really is? Gen. Dénes |
| Posted by: Cantacuzino March 21, 2008 11:21 pm | ||
"Romanian armour" R-1 tankettes for sure, probably in Basarabia '41. |
| Posted by: Dénes March 22, 2008 08:07 am |
| The tankman's uniform looked strange to me. I though he might be a Finn. But last night, shortly before midnight, I couldn't check my sources... Gen. Dénes |
| Posted by: Alanmccoubrey March 28, 2008 01:47 pm |
| I came across this on Ebay today, I hadn't seen R2's with the R turret number before. Alan http://cgi.ebay.com/WWII-German-Photo-PANZER-38t-UNIT-IN-TREELINE_W0QQitemZ160223211021QQihZ006QQcategoryZ104000QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem |
| Posted by: Cantacuzino March 28, 2008 03:02 pm | ||
Very strange indeed. And they don't have the michael cross painted on engine's hatch. http://imageshack.us |
| Posted by: Victor March 28, 2008 03:29 pm |
| Also, no black matriculation number on the back. Probably German, not Romanian. |
| Posted by: dragos March 28, 2008 04:03 pm | ||
I think they are German.
http://members.shaw.ca/grossdeutschland/vehicle.htm |
| Posted by: Alanmccoubrey March 28, 2008 07:32 pm |
| Not only can we see no Romanian markings but there are no German markings visible either, 6 PD which was the only German division to have a regiment of Pz 35(t)'s marked the rear plate of all their tanks with a Balken Cross and the divisional sign. Also 6 PD's tanks all had the smoke candles in their armoured cover on the rear plate too. The soldiers are clearly wearing Roanian helmets and as 6 PD was in Army Group North this isn't German tanks with Romanian soldiers. Alan |
| Posted by: dragos March 28, 2008 08:14 pm |
| I have to agree, the troops are Romanian. Maybe they are some of the 26 tanks delivered by the Germans after the 1941 campaign? |
| Posted by: mihnea March 28, 2008 08:21 pm |
| Look close at the rear armor plates they are R2's not Lt-35's. They are 100% Romanian and the troops are also Romanian with Dutch helmets And the first tank has the Romanian cross on the engine cover. http://img517.imageshack.us/my.php?image=15884788yo6.jpg |
| Posted by: kaba-maru March 29, 2008 04:11 am | ||
I think they are romanian R-2s not german Pz.Kpfw.35(t)s, too. No 35(t)s had angled turret rear, flattened hull rear, and center pintle hull rear. And the vehicles of this photo don't have german tail-light, too... |
| Posted by: Victor March 29, 2008 11:51 am | ||
Those also received Romanian registration numbers. |
| Posted by: dragos March 29, 2008 01:00 pm | ||||
Of course, I meant perhaps the picture was taken at the moment of delivery, before they were painted in Romanian markings. |
| Posted by: raevski April 12, 2008 03:54 am |
| definatly R2's the turrent on 35t is squared off. |
| Posted by: sample May 07, 2008 09:43 am |
| In this youtube movie, two Romanian Skoda R2 appear, but with unknown location and date; http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=mwKEwiulL9o regards |
| Posted by: nox May 07, 2008 01:30 pm |
nice R2 Thanks |
| Posted by: Victor December 27, 2008 11:08 am |
Could this be a Romanian tank? The quality of the photo isn't great, but the uniforms look more Romanian than German. However, the tank seems to be a Pz III, so this would put them in October-December 1942 near the Don's Bend, which again doesn't seem like it. Any opinions? Source: http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&item=200290142034 |
| Posted by: Cantacuzino December 28, 2008 11:01 am | ||
It's hard to have an opinion. The picture is to small and taken from behind But what more info give the seller ? Mayby is written something one the back |
| Posted by: Victor January 28, 2009 08:35 am |
R-35s Source: http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEDWX:IT&item=180322363704 |
| Posted by: New Connaught Ranger January 28, 2009 03:41 pm |
| Hallo Victor, http://imageshack.us I enlarged the picture and highlighted it but there is still a lack of detail. Kevin in Deva |
| Posted by: Alanmccoubrey January 30, 2009 12:29 pm |
| That is indeed a German Pz III from the early war, the crew are wearing the early Panzer Beret and their greatcoats which make them look unusual. Alan |
| Posted by: Dénes June 01, 2009 03:23 pm |
| Can anyone confirm that the Pz.IV with number T122810 and white band around the turret was a Rumanian one? If yes, what was its fate? Thanks, Gen. Dénes |
| Posted by: Cantacuzino June 01, 2009 07:08 pm | ||
Do you have a picture with this Pz IV ? |
| Posted by: manu_21 June 20, 2009 10:26 am |
| Hello everybody! I don't have yet any pictures with the Pz. IV, but I have some information about another picture which I've seen on this forum. I've seen that Gen. Dénes has posted this picture:  I've met before this picture in one of my books: "Na krawędzi ryzyka", by Marek Piotr Deszczyński and Wojciech Mazur.(a Polish book) The picture is scanned from that book. This picture shows two TKS light tanks, exhibited in Bucharest, in the fall of 1934. The TKS tanks, besides TK tanks, had been produced in Poland, in the interwar period. After the campaign from 1939, Poland has sent its administration and army in Romania, where they had been interned. Among other wheapons, some TKS light tanks had been interned. But I don't have any information about those tanks. I have lack of information about how many TK and TKS were interned in Romania and what happened further with them. On the internet is also lack of information, neither in Romanian, neither in Polish or English. So, if somebody has some information about this fact, please tell me. |
| Posted by: Alexei2102 June 28, 2009 03:36 pm |
| My small contribution to this thread. Enjoy, Al  |
| Posted by: Taranov September 01, 2009 08:55 am |
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| Posted by: Alexei2102 September 01, 2009 09:39 am |
| Nice picture. Thanks for sharing, Alex |
| Posted by: REGAL UNIFORMA COLECTOR September 01, 2009 01:25 pm |
| http://img42.imageshack.us/i/d0532a.jpg/ 5/19/39 Bucharest. King Carol inspects Mechanized Troops. |
| Posted by: Taz1 September 11, 2009 02:54 pm |
| Does somebody has pictures with the panther weels attached to a bench in Bucarest near the Militar Academy and the exact location ?Somebody knows the story of thows weels ? Many thanks |
| Posted by: Alexei2102 September 19, 2009 05:05 pm |
| A nice STUG and its crew. Al  |
| Posted by: Alexei2102 October 18, 2009 05:05 pm |
Romanian SDKFZ near a German column |
| Posted by: Alexei2102 October 18, 2009 05:06 pm |
And a second Romanian SDKFZ |
| Posted by: Dénes October 18, 2009 05:15 pm |
| Is it the so-called 'Michael's Cross' on the side of the vehicle? Gen. Dénes |
| Posted by: Alexei2102 October 18, 2009 05:19 pm |
| Looks like that to me, it is a bit different from the usual Hakenkreuz. |
| Posted by: Dénes October 18, 2009 08:03 pm | ||
The Hakenkreuz was the swastika. I meant the Rumanian national markings. Gen. Dénes |
| Posted by: New Connaught Ranger October 18, 2009 09:16 pm |
| The other marking on German armour was the Balkan Cross, a black cross outlined in white or black right angles. Kevin in Deva. |
| Posted by: Dénes October 19, 2009 05:11 am | ||
That was the Balkenkreuz, i.e. Beam Cross, not Balkan Cross. Gen. Dénes |
| Posted by: Alanmccoubrey October 20, 2009 05:55 pm |
| They just look like normal German markings to me, what makes you sure that they are Romanian ? |
| Posted by: New Connaught Ranger October 20, 2009 06:52 pm | ||||
Balkenkreuz the literal translation into the English language is: Balken Cross.[I] http://img132.imageshack.us/i/sc0012.jpg/ Source:- TAKTISCHE ZEICHEN AUF DEN FAHRZEUGEN DES DEUTSCHEN HEERES 1939 - 1945 by WOLFGANG FLEISCHER. ISBN 3-7909-0676-X Published under PODZUN PALLAS 1999. |
| Posted by: Agarici October 21, 2009 01:32 pm | ||||||
Yes, but it is BalkEn Cross, not BalkAn Cross, right? For this part of Europe the difference does matter. |
| Posted by: nox October 31, 2009 10:58 am |
| like Alanmccoubrey "They just look like normal German markings to me, what makes you sure that they are Romanian ? " no rumanian plate, I see normal german cross. I can't identify nationality of men in afv..... Forty sdkfz 250 were supplied to Romania as part of the "Olivenbaum" rearmament program from November 1943 on, most (if not all) being assigned to the Romanian 1st Armoured Division. Details on their subsequent service are sketchy; five were included with the Divisional reconnaissance company, while the others are presumed to have operated as troop carriers. |
| Posted by: New Connaught Ranger October 31, 2009 02:50 pm | ||||||||
Balkans = English. Balken = German. Difference in spelling, but describes the same place place. |
| Posted by: KameradSchnürschuh October 31, 2009 03:40 pm | ||||||||||
No Balkans or Balkan is not the same als Balken... then Balken means Beam in English or poutre in Francais Regards |
| Posted by: Dénes October 31, 2009 08:32 pm | ||||
My point, exactly. Gen. Dénes |
| Posted by: nox February 02, 2011 09:21 am |
 panzer IV from ebay |
| Posted by: Mircea87 February 03, 2011 07:57 am |
| same photo as above, but with a little bit of edit (grey tones and gamma): http://img828.imageshack.us/i/pz413.jpg/ On the side skirts of the turret, is that a hit from a shell or markings? It has a square shape. LE. : this marking? http://img204.imageshack.us/i/23349317.png/ |
| Posted by: Alexei2102 February 06, 2011 03:15 pm |
| Nice picture, a good addition to the collection of the guy who's going to win the ebay auction. Al |
| Posted by: nox February 07, 2011 11:10 am |
 this national identification was used by romanian armoured vehicles in spring 1945. And this picture has been taken in january 1944 http://cgi.ebay.de/Fotoalbum-Luftwaffe-Flak-Abt-Rumanien-44-Panzer-etc175x-/160539038906?pt=Militaria&hash=item2560df54ba#ht_47997wt_1139 for the square shape, I don't know. |
| Posted by: Alexei2102 February 14, 2011 09:38 am |
| Someone got lucky with this album... is it one of our members ? Al |
| Posted by: Dénes February 14, 2011 12:15 pm |
| The album wasn't such a big deal. Except for that particular tank photo, there was nothing really outstanding in it. My opinion, of course... Gen. Dénes |
| Posted by: ANDREAS February 26, 2011 10:21 am |
| Is this a captured TACAM T-60 since the soldiers who ride it seems hungarian to me? And the tank in front of him seems to be a Turan? Foto taken from internet. |
| Posted by: ANDREAS February 26, 2011 10:24 am |
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| Posted by: sebipatru February 26, 2011 01:09 pm |
| actually the turan tank is captured that soldiers are romanian in 44 romania bought german helmets model 1938(i'm not sure) for the cavallary AA troops and paratropers that flag on the turan is more likelly to be romanian flag and not hungarian, and the tankers look to ware romanian uniforms also there is no mention of any tacam t 60 captured by hungarians , but are sources that talks about hungarian tanks captured by romanians |
| Posted by: ANDREAS February 27, 2011 01:37 pm |
| Thank you sebipatru for the interesting informations about the german helmets and the photo himself! |
| Posted by: Agarici February 27, 2011 11:06 pm |
| Wasn't that issue discussed already, here on the forum? Or was it on another forum, perhaps? Sorry if I'm going to repeat (or to ignore) something that was said before. However, I think something might be wrong with the suggested explanation. Those were not calvalry soldiers, since those (the cavalrymen) wore high riding boots and not ankle boots and putees. And it is hard to believe that they were AA troops. Also the helmets seem (to me) to be the Stahlhelm M 1918 (or similar - and not the 1935 model) which were standard in the Hungarian army. Is is so hardly plausible that they were Honvedseg soldiers riding two Romanian crewed TACAM T 60 and T 38 (or a TACAM and a Hungarian Turan)? At least posing for a propaganda photo? |
| Posted by: Dénes February 28, 2011 06:30 am |
| Those helmets are not the old WW1-era model, those were much wider at base. Hungarian-made steel helmets had a strap link bracket at the rear, which makes them easy to recognise. As for such a propaganda 'coup' from the Hungarian side, if true it would be amateurish. Moreover, I don't really see the benefit of it. Gen. Dénes P.S. I have the impression that the tank in front is not a Turan, but rather a Zrinyi propelled assault gun. |
| Posted by: Agarici February 28, 2011 09:05 am | ||||
I see.
I didn't think of anything very elaborate, just a (perhaps) German inspired-idea to show the broterhood in arms between its two allies, somewhere on the Eastern front, in 1943-1944. Something like the propanagda photos with mixed Me 109 - IAR 80 (plus German and Romanian pilots) units. |
| Posted by: mihnea February 28, 2011 09:26 am |
| The picture is not a propaganda picture, if it is it's the worst one I have ever seen. The architecture of the village is closer to Hungary than to Ukraine. The soldiers are romanian: vz-24 rifles, german helmets (not hungarian), on the first vehicle a soldier is wearing a distinctive romanian "capela". Also the romanian army had many shortages in 1944-1945 so I'm not surprised to see dismounted cavalry soldiers with puttees and low boots instead of high boots. And there are other photos of romanian soldiers with german helmets and puttees-low boots mix. |
| Posted by: sebipatru February 28, 2011 05:44 pm |
| this picture isn't a propaganda one, this is an entusiastic picture taken by romanians when the were advancing victorious in an another transylvanian village in 44, but before the end of octomber, when all tacam t-60 were conficated most probably this tacam t60 was a part of 62nd Tank-destroyer Company( as far as i know all the tacam that formed 61st Tank-destroyer Company were destroyed in Battle of Podu Iloaiei or conficated by soviets when captured 1 Armoured Division) |
| Posted by: sebipatru June 19, 2011 09:09 am |
| I'm just curios are there any photos of american tanks likes Stuart ,Grant or others captured and used by romanians in Crimeea in 1943-1944? |
| Posted by: Victor June 20, 2011 05:43 pm |
| Personally I curious to see any first hand source confirming this rumor, which is a little far-fetched IMO. |
| Posted by: sebipatru June 20, 2011 07:46 pm |
| axworthy's book talks about several Stuarts captured intact after a repulsed soviet landing and others captured in the same period , and also about 4 Grants captured in the same period and if we take in consideration the need of armor in that period this tanks must have been pressed in service and also there is that list of AFV sent in home in the spring of 44 that confirm the fact that romanian army at least captured american armor in Crimeea, and we have that photo with a Sherman with turret destroyed by romanian ATG aniway in my opion the ideea of captured american tanks that were pressed in service locally by romanian in Crimmea, is highly probably to be true a nice day to all of you |
| Posted by: Alexei2102 June 20, 2011 08:03 pm |
fyi  |
| Posted by: dragos June 21, 2011 10:59 am |
| About the amphibious soviet landing against Romanian troops http://www.battlefield.ru/en/articles/165-tank-descent.html |
| Posted by: sebipatru June 21, 2011 02:07 pm |
| Thanks for information Aniway the article somehow suport the ideea of recovered tanks from the sea that appears in axworthy's book, because at least 2 barges with tanks were destroyed in shalow water but again as victor said there is no direct proof maybe in time and with luck |
| Posted by: sebipatru June 21, 2011 02:17 pm |
| and also in the last picture of these article is at least one intact Stuart intact on that barge |
| Posted by: mihnea June 22, 2011 01:28 pm |
| I know there are pictures of Romanian soldiers being trained by Russians on how to use modern AT weapons in 1944 and in some pictures a Sherman tank can be seen used as target. I believe this was the main use of captured armor. |
| Posted by: Victor June 23, 2011 05:46 am | ||
It is true that the armor was captured, but it doesn't mean it was used. The description of the battles in the Kerch Peninsula in late 1943 don't support this theory. There were no Romanian tank troops in the peninsula, only some German StuGs IIRC. Furthermore, operating a tank is not like driving a car. You cannot just climb into a new one and be on your road. It takes training, practice and not to mention ammo for the weapons on the tank. The Romanian tank troops in Crimea used the T-38s they had. |
| Posted by: ANDREAS July 16, 2011 11:58 am |
| In Modelism International nr. 5-6/2008 page 8-13 I found an article called Ozereika 1943 where is described the failed attempt of the soviets to form a bridgehead near Novorosisk, troops who used M3A1 "Stuart" light tanks. There are a lot of foto there with destroyed or abandoned tanks, trucks and landing ships. |
| Posted by: Alexei2102 August 22, 2011 12:55 pm |
| Let's get this thread back ontop with some nice additions from the Radu Korne Div: 1. Tankettes: a. Ukraine 1941:  |
| Posted by: Alexei2102 August 22, 2011 12:56 pm |
b. Bessarabia 1941: |
| Posted by: Alexei2102 August 22, 2011 12:56 pm |
c. Kalmucian Steppe 1942:  |
| Posted by: Alexei2102 August 22, 2011 12:58 pm |
2. Panzer 3 and an unknown one - please help with some ID: |
| Posted by: Alexei2102 August 22, 2011 12:59 pm |
3. SDKFZ 223 IN 1944 |
| Posted by: mihnea August 22, 2011 01:10 pm | ||
The second is a Pz 4 Ausf f1 (or f2 but with the cannon broken) but without the road wheels. |
| Posted by: Alanmccoubrey August 22, 2011 03:46 pm | ||
That is in fact an SdKfz 247 (4rad) and not a 223. |
| Posted by: Alanmccoubrey August 22, 2011 03:48 pm | ||
The rearmost tank is a Pz IV F2 or G. |
| Posted by: Agarici August 23, 2011 05:37 pm | ||||
Aren't those supposed to be long-barreled? Perhaps a Pz IV F1... |
| Posted by: mihnea August 23, 2011 06:33 pm | ||
@Agarici see my post on from August 22, 2011 03:10 pm:
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| Posted by: ANDREAS August 23, 2011 08:10 pm |
| I am pretty sure that the first destroyed tank is a Pz.Kpfw.III Ausf.J early production with a short 50mm L/42 gun. I say that by looking at the drive wheels and driver MG cupola type. |
| Posted by: Alexei2102 August 23, 2011 08:28 pm |
| These fotos - they all belong from the estate of a former member of the Romanian Armoured Div. |
| Posted by: Cantacuzino October 10, 2011 07:34 am |
| For sell from okazii.ro http://www.okazii.ro/catalog/58488169/2-fotografii-de-propaganda-militara-romaneasca.html http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/12/renaulti.jpg/ Uploaded with http://imageshack.us |
| Posted by: muggs January 12, 2012 08:22 am |
No other info except USSR 1941, source is Yad Vashem photo collection  |
| Posted by: muggs February 02, 2012 12:31 pm |
Found this one captioned as "Italian troops" From Historical Media |
| Posted by: muggs February 02, 2012 04:17 pm |
And another one from ebay, bad quality "Januar Revolution Bukarest 1941" |
| Posted by: Cantacuzino February 04, 2012 10:09 am | ||
The photo was taken in the front of National Theater ( demolished during german bombing august 44) |
| Posted by: muggs February 08, 2012 09:09 pm |
Cantacuzino do you have another pic except this one here where the Hummel can be seen ? |
| Posted by: Cantacuzino February 09, 2012 04:49 pm | ||
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/337/hummelz.jpg/ Uploaded with http://imageshack.us |
| Posted by: muggs February 09, 2012 06:45 pm |
| Many thanks ! |
| Posted by: muggs February 14, 2012 11:45 am |
| All pics from warfarethroughthelens.org http://imgur.com/a/XTu09 |
| Posted by: Victor February 14, 2012 11:53 am |
| Some of them were on auction on eBay some time ago. |
| Posted by: muggs February 14, 2012 12:01 pm |
| Yes, that site/organization is behind that Sudek13 ebay buyer. |
| Posted by: muggs February 16, 2012 06:26 am |
 From polish NAC archive |
| Posted by: Alexei2102 March 04, 2012 09:34 pm | ||
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lot-Rumanien-M3-Grant-beutepanzer-Panzer-gefangen-Ostfront-Truppen-sehr-selten-/330696880435?pt=Militaria&hash=item4cff11f133 |
| Posted by: muggs May 31, 2012 06:47 pm |
Poor quality pics but at least they're "new"  |
| Posted by: Victor June 02, 2012 05:28 pm |
| Photos from Chisinau most likely. |
| Posted by: Dénes June 02, 2012 06:48 pm |
| Was the Rumanian tank on the top photo knocked out? Gen. Dénes |
| Posted by: 21 inf June 02, 2012 09:03 pm | ||
Looks like being burned to me... |
| Posted by: ANDREAS June 02, 2012 09:42 pm |
| Tanks in cities battles... always sure knock-outs and relatively easy to destroy... when you are good at it! In this case, light armored tanks, even easier to destroy! |
| Posted by: muggs June 03, 2012 07:13 am |
| Yes, both are Chisinau 1941 |
| Posted by: Victor June 03, 2012 08:13 am | ||
The casualties suffered by the 1st Tank Regiment while raiding into Chisinau without infantry support are presented in my article in MODEList magazine. I believe it is in issue 4 or 5. |
| Posted by: muggs June 04, 2012 10:02 am |
Nice pic |
| Posted by: Victor June 04, 2012 10:19 am |
| Sources please. |
| Posted by: muggs June 04, 2012 02:52 pm |
| http://www.ebay.de/itm/Top-seltenes-Panzerfoto-rumanischer-Panzer-/200770932512?pt=Militaria&hash=item2ebee14f20#ht_1770wt_1393 |
| Posted by: Cantacuzino June 07, 2012 06:53 am |
| Chisinau 1941 http://www.ebay.de/itm/FOTO-KISCHINEW-CHISINAU-RUMANIEN-RUMANISCHER-PANZER-Russ-BEUTE-PAK-/320917007314?pt=Militaria&hash=item4ab824ebd2 http://www.ebay.de/itm/FOTO-KISCHINEW-CHISINAU-RUMANIEN-RUMANISCHER-PANZER-RARITAT-16-7-41-/370618516820?pt=Militaria&hash=item564a95c554 http://www.ebay.de/itm/FOTO-KISCHINEW-CHISINAU-RUMANIEN-BEUTE-GESCHUTZ-RAUPENSCHLEPPER-16-7-41-/370618516475?pt=Militaria&hash=item564a95c3fb |
| Posted by: muggs June 15, 2012 09:02 am |
 What kind of vehicle is this ? http://fototeca.iiccr.ro/picdetails.php?picid=41962X58X85 |
| Posted by: Alexei2102 June 15, 2012 09:18 am |
| SDKFZ 251 |
| Posted by: mgc151184 June 16, 2012 08:16 am | ||
It is a SD.KFZ. 250/9 Neu http://www.wehrmacht-history.com/heer/sd.kfz.250/sd.kfz.250-9-neu-leichte-schuetzenpanzerwagen-2-cm-kwk-38.htm |
| Posted by: muggs June 16, 2012 10:38 am |
| Thanks ! |
| Posted by: sebipatru June 16, 2012 05:03 pm |
| romania never used sdkfz 250/9 it used sdkfz 251/9 with short 75 mm gun |
| Posted by: Kiasutha June 16, 2012 11:35 pm |
| They must have used this one. Look at any photos of 250 and 251 series vehicles and compare to this. It is definitely a late model 250. Even if you ignore the 20mm turret they are sitting on, (the 75mm "stummel" was in an open-backed "shield") this vehicle isn't long enough and doesn't have enough wheels for a 251. |
| Posted by: sebipatru June 17, 2012 07:36 am |
| romania used both 250 and 251 but as far as i know only standard versions excepting 6 251/9 one 251/9 was one of the 3 last afv of 2nd Armored regiment in may '45 maybe this machine is a captured example, used by romanian army aftere 23 august 44 |
| Posted by: Kiasutha June 17, 2012 01:33 pm | ||
That would be my first guess too. |
| Posted by: muggs June 17, 2012 06:22 pm |
| Description has it as Transylvania 1944 so it's very possible that it's captured. |
| Posted by: muggs August 12, 2012 07:20 am |
   BT-2 tank from the "Beute" expo in Bucharest  This one looks lile a carrier of sorts  |
| Posted by: romrail August 12, 2012 09:51 am | ||
Indeed. It's a T-20 "Komsomolets" armoured light artillery tractor. In 1943, 34 captured T-20's were repaired inside Rogifer plant and delivered to the romanian army, for the pulling of the german 50 mm type Pak 38 AT gun: 12 pieces were sent to 5 and 14 infantry divisions, another 6 to the 2nd armoured regiment and 4 more to 5 cavalry division. In 1944 all were lost during the battle in Moldova or were taken back by the soviets after august 23rd. |
