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| Posted by: Imperialist March 19, 2009 10:34 pm |
| I noticed we talked about what helicopters, tanks and fighters Romania should buy. What about anti-tank weapons systems? |
| Posted by: Stephen Dabapuscu March 20, 2009 03:44 am |
| How about the Serbian Bumbar anti-tank guided missile? |
| Posted by: tomcat1974 March 20, 2009 08:43 am |
| Spike... Since we already have XL /L/M |
| Posted by: MMM March 20, 2009 10:54 am | ||
To make a really bad joke, the best anti-tank defense system would be to deepen the holes in our road system until they become anti-tank trenches... On a more serious note, I'm not sure what system do we have in use right now. |
| Posted by: Imperialist March 20, 2009 11:56 am |
| MMM, I've seen we're still using RPG-7s which probably make the bulk of our man-portable AT weapons. In my opinion this would be an interesting acquisition that would enhance the possibilities of use in urban settings: MBT LAW has a soft launch and can be fired from confined spaces such as inside buildings and vehicle hatches. http://www.army-technology.com/projects/mbt_law/ |
| Posted by: MMM March 20, 2009 12:27 pm |
| Right, but except portable weapons? Do we have anything or just old ATG's? |
| Posted by: Victor March 20, 2009 01:23 pm |
| MMM, read tomcat's post. In the future, pleasetry to leave out the jokes in serious topics. Thank you. |
| Posted by: Hadrian March 20, 2009 05:17 pm |
| For the moment beeing, Ithink an upgrade of existing missiles would be sufficient. http://tpb.traderom.ro/expozitii/domenii/PATROMIL_2005/PATROMIL/ELECTROMEC_PL/maliutka_m2t.htm Eventually supplemented by a small number of Spikes, in the units that already use it on MLI-84. |
| Posted by: Imperialist March 20, 2009 06:07 pm | ||||
According to some sources, a penetration capability of 850 mm RHA seems rather low:
http://milparade.udm.ru/31/024.htm As for the RPG-7s, shouldn't/couldn't we build RPGs of types higher than 7? |
| Posted by: Hadrian March 22, 2009 03:36 pm |
| The M2T has the warhead of the Milan 2T, which appeared in 1993, and has anti-ERA capabilities. It will punch a hole trough a T-72. Well, an Abbrams could be a different thing. Of course another stronger warhead could/should be fitted, like Milan 3 or a newer one. For the RPG-7, why not adapt more poweful rockets based on RPG-29 technology? The launcher is just a tube, it will fire whatever you put in it. In Romania were already made thermobaric rockets, for example. This would be of coure an interim solution, destined to postpone major acquisition programs until funds are available. At the time we are in delay with the ongoing ones (multirole fighter, APC). Both upgrades could be selled also, for use on numerous existing russian platforms. Of course the best antitank weapons would be 48 multirole fighters armed with Brimstones, for example, and 24 attack helicopters (Tiger, Mangusta, SuperCobra?) to supplement the SOCAT (which is also an interim solution), armed with Spikes. |
| Posted by: Iamandi January 30, 2010 09:38 am |
| How about ERYX?http://www.army-technology.com/projects/eryx/ |
| Posted by: contras January 30, 2010 12:23 pm |
| I think Javelin missile is an option. |
| Posted by: C-2 January 30, 2010 12:28 pm |
| What tank battle/tank invasion are we expecting? What a/t sistem will rom. buy will have nothing to do with the real needs. Better spend the money on health. |
| Posted by: Iamandi January 30, 2010 02:36 pm |
| Why? |
| Posted by: contras January 30, 2010 04:38 pm |
| If you want to live in peace, prepare yourself for war. (Chinese proverb) |
| Posted by: Iamandi January 31, 2010 01:02 pm |
| Adding ERYX to our troops in Afghanistan will be very good. One of this rocket against a sniper, machine gun position, house, will be scary for enemy. Mounting ERYX on the roof of a HUMVEE, Duro, or a new turret for Piranha with ERYX and a HMG will increase fire power in patrols. |
| Posted by: contras January 31, 2010 04:17 pm |
| I don't know if that will increase the capacity of our forces to fight Talibans. Most part of our victims in Afghamistan were made by IED, and few were in firefights. In firefights our forces have overhelming firepower, those casualities were in ambushes or in firefights were the enemy has many more victims. In Afghanistan we need suplimentary protection against IED, or something that can detect IED, when it will be ready. |