A four-digit number is visible among the wreckage. Would this be the aircraft's serial number?
Col. Dénes
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| WorldWar2.ro Forum > The post-WW2 and recent military > Two MiG-21s collided close to Tg.Mures (both pilots surived) |
| Posted by: Dénes August 26, 2004 06:42 pm |
| From Mediafax (in Rumanian):
http://www.mediafax.ro/top10/interna.shtml Col. Dénes |
| Posted by: Victor August 26, 2004 06:59 pm |
| Today at 17:44, during a training flight, two MiG-21 Lancers have collided in mid-air near Cristesti. One fell in Cristesti and the other in Santioana. Both pilots bailed out and are all right (one of them has been lightly injured). Two men and a little girl were also injured and several houses suffered some damage. |
| Posted by: C-2 August 26, 2004 08:57 pm |
| A car and a kitchen were also damaged. :? |
| Posted by: Iamandi August 27, 2004 06:52 am |
| Ok. 10x God nobody dyed. But, the sky is ... big!? Or not? Why did she (?) collided?
A few minutes a go, i see from my window (at work) 2 60-BlackHawk with external tanks going to Kogalniceanu or Baraganu (Borcea) Air Bases. Romania buyet??? :rollroll: I don't think so... Iama |
| Posted by: Dou25 August 27, 2004 10:51 am |
| I'm so thankful no one died.
Is there any idea what might have caused this to happin?. I know here where I live in we had to F-18's collide over the river. This happaned about a month ago. It was a training flight as well. There was a two seat F-18 and a a single seat F-18. The pilot in the single seat F-18 died. Also one of the other pilots ( I think it was the RIO) in the two seat model died. |
| Posted by: Dénes August 27, 2004 02:10 pm |
| Wrecks of one of the crashed MiG-21s (source '24 de ore muresene'):
A four-digit number is visible among the wreckage. Would this be the aircraft's serial number? Col. Dénes |
| Posted by: Dénes August 27, 2004 02:12 pm |
| Here is the complete article:
http://www.24oremuresene.ro/produs.php?id=4555&PHPSESSID=55034991473131359bd2c3768624abfe The owner of the house lot the MiG-21 crashed into was exactly at the (outdoors) toilet, when the aircraft fell from the sky (Jakab Sándor of Sîntioana/Szászszentiván survived the impact). I could imagine how surprised he was (what are the chances of this to happen?) :mrgreen: Col. Dénes |
| Posted by: Victor August 27, 2004 07:01 pm |
| Apparently it was a pilot error. There were 3 MiGs: one "hostile intruder" and two "pursuiers". They had to intercept him and then escort him out of te harea. At least that was what they were supposed to do. Apparently the hostile and one pursuier got too close and hit each over. Then the aircraft went out of control and crashed. One blowing off that guy on the toillete and the other falling on a garage and wounding the little girl.
Denes, yes, that is the serial number. |
| Posted by: Dénes August 27, 2004 07:35 pm |
| So, apparently it was a human error after all.
Reportedly, it's the 30th and 31st Rumanian MiG-21 that crashed from 1990 on. Col. Dénes |
| Posted by: Dénes August 31, 2004 03:18 pm |
| News from the local radion station (in Rumanian):
Motivul prabusirii celor 2 MIG-uri se va cunoaste peste o luna (8/31/2004) Raportul final al anchetei in cazul accidentului aviatic soldat cu prabusirea a doua aeronave MIG-21 Lancer in judetul Mures urmeaza sa fie prezentat in circa 30 de zile. Declaratia ii apartine purtatorului de cuvint al MApN, locotenent-colonel Gelaledin Nezir. In momentul de fata, continua cercetarile pentru gasirea celui de-al doilea inregistrator al parametrilor de zbor, dupa ce prima cutie neagra a fost descoperita simbata dimineata. Col. Dénes |
| Posted by: Dénes September 01, 2004 02:38 pm |
| ...was barely avoided. For details (in Rumanian) see link to a local newspaper:
http://www.24oremuresene.ro/produs.php?id=4595&PHPSESSID=dfff3783b10954a26f15cf92e48e7057 Col. Dénes |
| Posted by: Florin September 02, 2004 05:33 am |
| A huge disaster that could have wiped out half of Tg.Mures...
I don't know who had the idea of the title, but considering the size of Tg. Mures, it is a gross miss-estimation. Also... Such events happen everywhere, but not quite often, I have to accept. Do you remember the rescue attempt by the American commandos, during president Carter, to save the Americans kept prisoners in Teheran, Iran? The main reason of that failure was the "contact" in air of 2 American helicopters carrying the commandos, which resulted in their collapse. Also, in the last war with Iraq, 2 of the few Allied casualties in air were a pair of British jets which performed a French kiss in the air. |
| Posted by: Dénes September 02, 2004 04:24 pm |
| The reporter refers to the fact that large pieces of wreckage were found inside the local Chemical Plant (the infamous Azomures, which often emitted yellow and stinky gasses I dully breath), very close to the ammonia storage tanks. If those tanks would have exploded, large parts of the city - my city of birth, BTW -would have been devastated.
Col. Dénes |
| Posted by: Victor September 02, 2004 05:04 pm |
| Apparently the pilots did not respect the flight path, which was several km distance from the plant. |
| Posted by: Dénes September 08, 2004 12:51 pm |
| Link to Mediafax article: http://www.mediafax.ro/top10/topint2.shtml
Col. Dénes |
| Posted by: Florin September 09, 2004 03:05 am |
| Regarding the title: Damages done by the two MiG-21 wrecks are over 1 billion lei
This means about 30000 U.S. dollars... |
| Posted by: Iamandi September 09, 2004 09:09 am |
| ... and on another forum, i asked about how much money Romania had loose in this accident. If i remember well, the sum is ~ 12 mil. (both LanceRs). Someone else say is about half (6 mil.). I forgot about currency - was euro or usd...
Iama |