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Posted by: BALLY December 22, 2009 12:46 pm
Hello everybody!
Does anyone knows anything about Krosnhtad Class submarine chasers of the Romanian Navy? I only know there three of them called V1, V2 and V3. Entered service in 1956.

Posted by: Petre December 23, 2009 11:30 am
The NATO code-name was Kronshtadt. The soviet name was Project-122 B, built as large submarine chaser, later renamed small anti-sub. ship, after 1960 obsolete.
In RO Navy "Vanator de Submarine". Were in action till 1990-1993(?), with several capital reparations and some modernizations. See :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kronshtadt_class_submarine_chaser

Posted by: Vici December 23, 2009 07:40 pm
I have found something about the Kronshtadt class in Ro Navy service a while ago in the online archive of the official magazine "Marina Romana" here:
http://www.navy.ro/
I saved only the two pages so i don't know from which issue of the magazine they are. Anyway, here's the article:
http://img194.imageshack.us/i/vanatoaredesubmarine1.jpg/ http://img39.imageshack.us/i/vanatoaredesubmarine2.jpg/

Posted by: BALLY December 23, 2009 08:27 pm
Many thanks for your help.
There is another problem now: anything about the submarine chasers 41,42,43 and 44 built at Mangalia Shipyard in 1974 (according to the article).
I think these ships were not the POTI Class corvettes (according to Wikipedia, these ships were transferred to Romanian Navy in 1970, beeing launched in 1967 - numbers 31,32,33).

Posted by: Petre December 24, 2009 06:31 am
The submarine chasers 41,42,43 and 44 were built 1974 at The Navy Shipyard of Mangalia, based on the chinese project 62/111C (NATO code-name Shanghai class patrol boat).
There were also built those years two diver ships, and for the Coast Guard (then "Marina Graniceri") over 20 similar ships (you can see them on the roads entering in Constantsa and one is near the railroad station. I'm sure you can buy one for some cheap money...)
http://www.china-defense.com/naval/shanghai_class/shanghai_class_1.html

Posted by: BALLY December 24, 2009 07:12 am
Many thanks!
I think it'll be interesting to post more informations about Romanian Navy's inventory between 1950-1990.

Posted by: Vici January 07, 2010 12:41 pm
QUOTE (Petre @ December 24, 2009 06:31 am)
The submarine chasers 41,42,43 and 44 were built 1974 at The Navy Shipyard of Mangalia, based on the chinese project 62/111C (NATO code-name Shanghai class patrol boat).
There were also built those years two diver ships, and for the Coast Guard (then "Marina Graniceri") over 20 similar ships (you can see them on the roads entering in Constantsa and one is near the railroad station.

Do you know the names of those two diver ships based on the Shanghai class hull?
The divers also use two speedboats based on the HuChuan torpedo boats class, named Marte and Jupiter - i suppose you're not confusing them

I found a source which gives the exact number of Shanghai class boats as 21, see http://books.google.ro/books?id=tkGDkpkQh-sC&pg=PA454&lpg=PA454&dq=croitor+class+romanian+navy&source=bl&ots=ftJ6wYunqD&sig=nm6oFiqnZ68StUUdgcGF2myOINI&hl=ro&ei=wdZFS_LOJI3G_gbrrLieAg&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=2&ved=0CA8Q6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q=croitor%20class%20romanian%20navy&f=false pages 453-454

Posted by: BALLY January 09, 2010 10:53 am
Marina Romana Magazine http://www.navy.ro/media/rmr/rmr127.pdf
Page 32
background - Submarine chasers 42 and 43 - Shanghai II origins

Posted by: Petre January 22, 2010 05:42 am
"Venus" and "Saturn", hull project Shanghai 0111/C.

Posted by: BALLY January 22, 2010 12:02 pm
QUOTE (Petre @ January 22, 2010 05:42 am)
"Venus" and "Saturn", hull project Shanghai 0111/C.

Venus and Saturn are post-1989 names of those two sub chasers?

Posted by: Vici January 24, 2010 08:30 am
No BALLY, Petre was answering my question about the names of the diver ships based on Shanghai.
Here's Venus; I suppose saturn should be identical
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