http://www.ici.ro/romania/ro/turism/hi_focsani.html
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http://www.ici.ro/romania/ro/turism/hi_soveja.html
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| WorldWar2.ro Forum > Romanian Army at War > ww1 and ww2 romanian war cemeteries |
| Posted by: ANDI September 26, 2005 11:11 am |
| I don't know if anyone wrote something about this. It's just that It seems like our soldiers graves are forgotten (at least one of them). Ok, maybe some (located near important cities) are visited . I read an article on the Internet (I'll try to find the site again) about this and I was quite shocked, especially when I read about the "graves" from Basarabia. Unfortunately I know such a location here in Romania. I found it almost by accident. It's a shame that we do not pay enough respect to those who died for our country. I don't intend to be a "super patriot" or something, but this should concern all of us. |
| Posted by: ANDI September 29, 2005 05:47 am |
| Don't you guys have anything to say about this.....? |
| Posted by: Victor September 29, 2005 07:56 am |
| I'm sorry, I didn't have much free time lately and it's just a short response. Have you visited teh website of the National Office of the Heroes Cult (Oficiul National pentru Cultul Eroilor)? The adress is: http://www.once.ro/. It is a serious improvement to what it was several years ago when it had only a small webpage. |
| Posted by: Dani September 29, 2005 08:18 am |
| ANDI, on the site given by Victor, check this: http://www.once.ro/ro/index.php?id=10057&lang=ro So it seems that the things are moving in a good direction. Edited: English version of this news: http://www.once.ro/ro/index.php?id=30&lang=en Also a good map (for the future anyway - many pages are under construction): http://www.once.ro/ro/index.php?lang=en&id=14 |
| Posted by: ANDI September 29, 2005 10:00 am |
| Good site indeed! Too bad it is still under construction and I am very curious to find out if the places I was talking about are mentioned there. In fact I want to see if the status of these cemeteries has changed. Last time I checked, in october last year, I did'nt even got close to the monument due to the lots of horns and spike weeds and bush. Actually you can not see it. The locals told me about it. And I am about to make a visit there soon. ANDI |
| Posted by: Carol I October 05, 2005 08:24 pm | ||
Where? |
| Posted by: ANDI October 06, 2005 07:53 am |
| It is in Dambovita county. The monument was raised in the '30es by the germans and according to the inscription on it about 60 germans and more than 300 roumanian soldiers (artillery regiment) lost their life on that field. Not even Chiritescu in his wellknown book " Romania in Primul Razboi Mondial" mention there were a squirmish in that area. Excuse me if I wont say the village name. My goal is only for restoration. And I don't think that too many visitors it will do any good, if you know what I mean. If you are really interested and want to do something in that matter (restoration), I can give you my e-mail adress. Regards, pvt. ANDI |
| Posted by: Carol I October 06, 2005 06:43 pm | ||
It's your choice. Good luck with your plans. |
| Posted by: Carol I October 06, 2005 08:16 pm |
| Surprisingly, the two WWI mausoleums below are missing from the http://www.once.ro/ro/index.php?id=10039&lang=ro. http://www.ici.ro/romania/ro/turism/hi_focsani.html Source: http://www.cjvrancea.ro/e_htmluri/foto_traditie.html http://www.ici.ro/romania/ro/turism/hi_soveja.html Source: http://www.cjvrancea.ro/e_htmluri/foto_traditie.html |
| Posted by: ANDI October 07, 2005 05:46 am |
| Thank you, I hope you did not misunderstood me when I said that I won't write about this village. But I don't want to draw unwanted attention over this forgotten place of rest where there is only the marble and stone monument remaining. The last three wooden crosses (the names faded away a long time ago) were laying on the ground in no order whatsoever. I hope you will understand that and as I said before, I can give you more details if you really want that. I was hoping that people would take care more about they past heroes. Big or small battles, there were victims who deserve proper respect. Friends and foes. It's a shame if ONCE does not have the mausoleums from Focsani and Soveja on their list. Regards, pvt. ANDI |
| Posted by: Carol I October 07, 2005 07:17 am |
| One WWII cemetery that seems to be missing from the ONCE site is the one in Leţcani (16 km east of Iaşi). Above the entrance it has written "Cimitirul Eroilor Neamului, ... Leţcani 1944", where "..." stands for an empty space that seems to have been painted over. |
| Posted by: ANDI October 07, 2005 08:12 am |
| Check the "Proiecte pentru anul 2005" page on that site. It seems like there is a reconstruction project for Letcani and some other war cemeteries. " tara Lovistei" also is full of monuments and cemeteries of the soldiers and officers (roumanian, german and austro-hungarian) who fought in that area in ww1. I am waiting ONCE to finish constructing it's site and county maps, in order to check for those locations. Cheers, pvt.ANDI |
| Posted by: Carol I October 07, 2005 06:42 pm | ||
Meanwhile we can build our own lists. Some information on this topic can also be found it the threads below. http://www.worldwar2.ro/forum/index.php?showtopic=469 http://www.worldwar2.ro/forum/index.php?showtopic=155 |
| Posted by: ANDI October 07, 2005 08:05 pm |
| That is a very good idea! Our country is full of burial grounds for soldiers who fought mostly in ww1 .Roumanians but also germans and austro-hungarians. I know "tara Lovistei" quite well and I can tell you there are a lot of cemeteries and small monuments scattered along Olt valley( Calinesti, Boita, Brezoi, Robesti, etc.) and along the alternate road between Sibiu and Arges county through Boisoara-Titesti village. So, how do you think we should proceed? ANDI |
| Posted by: Carol I October 07, 2005 08:14 pm | ||
The simplest way is to write here the name of the place and put a photo if possible. A more advanced way would be building up a systematic list with descriptions and details. It is up to the posters which way they choose. |
| Posted by: ANDI October 07, 2005 08:46 pm |
| Well, in my opinion we should combine those two ways you have mentioned. I mean, we should gather simple information (like a location) with more detailed info in a single list......every source is important, don't you think? I know mostly ww1 monuments and cemeteries. I also know some untold ww1 local (Sibiu-Valcea county) war stories and another version of gen. Praporgescu's death....That is, talking with the locals. ANDI |
| Posted by: Carol I October 07, 2005 09:23 pm | ||
I would advise you to write the information down before it is forgotten. |
| Posted by: Victor October 09, 2005 02:52 pm |
| Talking about general David Praporgescu and monuments, it was nice to see yesterday, that his grave and statue in the Bellu Cemetery had fresh flowers in front. |
| Posted by: ANDI October 10, 2005 06:30 am |
| Well, Victor, that was in Bucharest, but I was sad to see that his monument (raised in Caineni village) was stripped of his photo!!! I saw that with my own eyes this summer. Talking about rumors and unofficial declarations, it is said that gen. Praporgescu was very unpopular among his men. Do you know anything about that? ANDI |
| Posted by: Victor October 10, 2005 03:30 pm |
| No, I don't know too much about him, except that he commanded the 1st Corps in September 1916 and that later a cavalry regiment was named after him. |
| Posted by: ANDI October 11, 2005 06:21 am |
| The rumors says that he was "accidentally" caught in friendly fire becouse of his unpopularity among his officers.....But I think this is another topic. I was tallking later about some local ww1 war stories. They came close together and depict two heroic and daring actions from the Olt valley in august-september 1916. One actually is wellknown and happened in Caineni village. One small formation of bavarian alpines took point exactly on top of the railway tunnel which was close to the road at Caineni village, before the retreating roumanian army could secure it's way back. That is why, this point, became a serious threat becouse the germans were equipped with machine guns and were well hidden. Tens of soldiers lost their life without firing a single shot and the story says that you could actually get across Olt river just stepping on the bodies of dead soldiers and dead horses.... Seeing no way out of this, one officer stationed in Caineni village gathered some locals and armed them. Using some unknown shepherds paths they fell right in the back of the bavarians and the machine gun fell silent. This story, maybe a litlle different is also written down in Chiritescu's volume I of "Romania in timpul razboiului de reintregire". I think the war is full of stories like that but we should tell them becouse they are stories of life and death. As I said before, the area is full of history, a lot of villages along Olt valley survived the war and those mountains are still burial ground for a lot of soldiers. I will post the name of that officer as well as the army groups involved. ANDI |
| Posted by: Victor October 11, 2005 12:29 pm |
| You could start a new topic "WWI bravery" similar to the one we have on WWII. |
| Posted by: Carol I October 11, 2005 06:57 pm |
| http://konst.org.ua/ro/photoshow/72/37 from the WWI military cemetery in Sinaia. |
| Posted by: C-2 October 11, 2005 07:19 pm |
| Since I was a child,I like palying in this cemetery. As time passed by,nothing changed there. Only in the last years ,parts from the canons were missing and also the crosses were vandalized. Thinking that it is only 100 m from hotel Palas and less from the Casino. |
| Posted by: Carol I October 11, 2005 08:52 pm |
| http://konst.org.ua/ro/photoshow/122/3 from the military cemeteries in Sighişoara: one WWI Austrian and one WWII Soviet. |
| Posted by: ANDI October 12, 2005 07:38 am |
| I saw (unfortunately I did not take any pictures) war cemeteries and monuments in: Rm Valcea - monument and cemetery -ww1 and ww2 soldiers Brezoi - monument - ww1 soldiers Jiblea village - monument - ww1 soldiers Calinesti village - cemetery- ww1 officers (roumanian and germans) Boisoara village - cemetery - ww1 officers (roumanian and germans) Robesti village - small metalic cross in rememberance of the big battle that took place there in ww1 Caineni village - monument (maybe cemetery) - ww1 soldiers - monument for gen.Praporgescu There is something else that I should mention. There was an article in roumanian press (1 or 2 years ago) about the war cemetery from Valenii de Munte village. It was writing about serious vandalization of the crosses and graves of the ww1 and ww2 soldiers buried there. Do you know anything about it? ANDI |
| Posted by: dragos October 12, 2005 11:00 am |
| There is a military cemetery in Buzau: http://stiri.rol.ro/stiri/2005/09/210849.htm |
| Posted by: dragos03 October 12, 2005 12:13 pm |
| I saw small monuments in basically every village (usually in the "centre' of the village or in the yard of the church). The dead soldiers from the village are written on the monuments. In Transilvania many churches have lists with the dead inside. Maybe we could make some kind of a database with all the names. |
| Posted by: ANDI October 13, 2005 05:57 am |
| Indeed there are a lot of monuments. The majority of them are raised for the locals who died on various theatres of war. There is another kind of monuments raised for a battle that took place in that area. In Buzau is a big cemetery with three sections: one for the roumanian soldiers and officers who lost their lifes in ww1 and ww2, - one for german soldiers and officers who died in ww1 and ww2 and one for the russian soldiers and officers who died in ww1 In Slobozia is also a big cemetery in which are buried roumanian, british, french, algerian and indian soldiers from ww1. I forgot to write about the cemetery from Boita village on the Olt valley. A fierce battle took place there in ww1 between elements of the retreating 23rd and 13th roumanian inf. divisons and bavarian and honved divisions on the other side. Dragos03, I think that making a database with all the names from hundreds of towns and villages is a honorable idea but a difficult one. I'd rather make a list with only the monuments, cemeteries and their location, as suggested before. ANDI |
| Posted by: Victor October 13, 2005 11:08 am |
| I believe both such lists exist at ONCE. Or at least they should. |
| Posted by: Carol I October 13, 2005 04:28 pm | ||
As illustrated by the examples above, the ONCE lists are (yet?) incomplete. On the other hand, the work of building up these lists is quite laborious and likely to take a very long time. |
| Posted by: dragos03 October 13, 2005 04:34 pm |
| It is not very difficult. Every member can send the data they have to one member, who would just have to organise the information (i can do that if nobody else wants). |
| Posted by: ANDI October 14, 2005 06:00 am |
| I agree with Dragos03 but as I said before, only the locations. You have something to start with, from my point of view and there is more to come. I also think that we should make it official at some point. pvt. ANDI |
| Posted by: Carol I October 14, 2005 08:17 pm |
Not on the ONCE lists either: the WWI Mausoleum in Iaşi designed by Ioan Balau and Henri Coandă. Source: http://www.primaria-iasi.ro/despre/monumente/pages/mausoleu_eroi_galata_jpg.htm |
| Posted by: ANDI October 17, 2005 11:30 am |
| Another location on the list: the cemetery and monument from Valea Plopilor village, on the road to Alexandria. It was raised for the officers and soldiers who lost their lives in the Neajlov battle. There are also small monuments in Bragadiru, Iepuresti, Ghimpati. ANDI |
| Posted by: Victor October 17, 2005 12:42 pm |
| Add a small monument (for the village heroes) in Clinceni to your list. |
| Posted by: ANDI October 17, 2005 01:08 pm |
| Monuments for local heroes can be encountered in almost every community. I saw such monuments in Stefanesti (near Bucharest), Finta village, Butimanu, Bolintin Vale, Moara Vlasiei, Jiblea, Bilciuresti (a beautiful one actually). This summer I went to visit the mausoleum from Marasesti. Unfortunately the small museum nearby was closed. I wonder if there are any monuments in the villages of Doaga, Strejescu, Diocheti. ANDI |
| Posted by: Victor October 17, 2005 02:12 pm |
| Of course there are small monuments in every village. I thought the small monuments in Bragadiru, Iepuresti, Ghimpati were also for local heroes and that is why I mentioned the one in Clinceni, which is in the same area with the ones mentioned above. Are they commemorating a special event? Bucharest also has a monument for 'the last sentry of the capital in 1916'. |
| Posted by: Dénes October 18, 2005 02:00 am |
| As it has been stated, virtually every village in Rumania has its own monument for the war dead. This is no different in Transylvanian villages inhabitated mainly by Hungarian ethnics. About a decade ago I photographed such a monument for the 1914-1918 war dead in the village of Sarateni (Sóvárad), not far from my city of birth, Tg.Mures (Marosvásárhely). The long list of names are engraved in the tables mounted on all four sides of the obelisc, capped with the Turul bird - the mythological bird of the Magyars. Gen. Dénes  |
| Posted by: Dénes October 18, 2005 02:12 am |
| Not in Rumania, but for Rumanian airmen was erected this monument. The monument is located in Piest'any, today's Slovakia. The photo shows the official unveiling ceremony, held in 1945. Gen. Dénes  |
| Posted by: ANDI October 18, 2005 06:31 am |
| Victor, Iepuresti and Ghimpati were actually on the wideness (if I may say so) of the front line from Neajlov river. The main battles though, were fought around Valea Plopilor, Letca Veche, Bulbucata and Clejani. I heard that in Letca Veche (into the woods) there still are some underground shelters. pvt.ANDI |
| Posted by: Carol I October 18, 2005 07:08 am | ||
Dénes, this photo also fits into http://www.worldwar2.ro/forum/index.php?showtopic=155. |
| Posted by: ANDI October 18, 2005 11:31 am |
| Here is the monument from Bolintin-Vale for the heroes from ww1 (though I think there was also a squirmish between german and roumanian forces there). http://imageshack.us |
| Posted by: boonicootza October 23, 2005 07:24 pm |
| A small war cemetery in the woods near the village of Stanca, near Iasi. http://imageshack.us |
| Posted by: Victor October 24, 2005 01:28 pm |
The monument dedicated to the last defenders of the capital in 1916 |
| Posted by: ANDI November 07, 2005 07:04 am |
| Belive it or not, but this is actually a ww1 war cemetery near Gheboaia village in Dambovita county. I could not even get close to that cross, the bushes of wild rose and other spiked plants made it impossible. I don't know if this is on ONCE list, but I doubt it....  http://imageshack.us --a close up of the cross-- http://imageshack.us ANDI |
| Posted by: Dani November 11, 2005 01:07 pm |
| It seems that MOD have a comprehensive list. As a a brief information, they posted this: http://www.mapn.ro/traditii/sitmocr1.html |
| Posted by: ANDI November 12, 2005 08:41 am |
| That is a good list indeed, but the example I have posted above shows "the interest" of the authorities. After all there are buried around 300 roumanian soldiers and around 60 german soldiers.... As I said in one of my posts here, 3 years ago (when you could "penetrate" the undergrowth) were only a few wooden crosses lying on the ground.....You can see how it looks today..... |
| Posted by: Carol I December 29, 2005 09:38 pm |
| In the Suceava cemetery there are 2 Romanian officers (one deceeased in 1942 and the other one in 1945) and 34 'unknown heroes'. Nearby there are also some 50 something Soviet soldiers and 5 Germans. |
| Posted by: dragos03 January 13, 2006 06:01 pm |
| I found a monument in the Lainici Pass (Jiu Valley), where General Dragalina (the commander of the 1st Army) was mortally wounded in WW1. http://imageshack.us http://imageshack.us |
| Posted by: Carol I January 28, 2006 10:01 pm |
| Images from the military cemetery in Leţcani: Entrance:  There seems to have been some sort of a bust at the entrance. The postament in now converted into a flag-stand.  The cemetery is rather large.  |
| Posted by: Carol I January 28, 2006 10:05 pm |
A field of crosses: Inscription at the entrance:  Another inscription identifying the losses as belonging to the 3rd Division present in the area in 1944:  |
| Posted by: Carol I January 28, 2006 10:09 pm |
The really sad thing is that there is no inscription on any of the crosses, not even "unknown soldier/hero": Furthermore, some crosses had fallen ...  ... or even broken:  |
| Posted by: Carol I January 31, 2006 10:03 pm | ||
The Romanian section:  |
| Posted by: Carol I January 31, 2006 10:05 pm | ||
Half of the Soviet section:  |
| Posted by: Carol I January 31, 2006 10:16 pm | ||
The grave of the 5 Germans:  There is some suggestion that the grave existed at the beginning of WWII and that it had an old style wheel thought to be from a WWI plane. The grave was covered in snow and it was not possible to see whether it had any other inscription than the one at the base of the cross: Aici odihnesc 5 ostasi germani ("Here rest 5 German servicemen"). |
| Posted by: mabadesc February 01, 2006 05:26 am |
| Here is a train filled with dead Vinatori de Munte being "repatriated" during WWII. Note the ceremony taking place, along with some older war veterans who are saluting in a manner reminiscent of the Nazi salute (??) (last image, right side). Source: Avramescu Family Collection http://imageshack.us http://imageshack.us http://imageshack.us http://imageshack.us |
| Posted by: ANDI April 04, 2006 12:34 pm |
| This is a nice example of a monument, commemorating the fallen soldiers from the village of Tesila, Prahova county (both wars). http://imageshack.us |
| Posted by: Victor April 05, 2006 08:31 pm |
| Strangely they chose to display Soviet ZIS-2 AT guns, used only by the People's Army. |
| Posted by: ANDI April 06, 2006 06:14 am |
| Do you really think they thought much about it? Don't want to be mean, but.... In the village of Stefanesti (near Bucharest) there is a similar monument, displaying one AA gun. |
| Posted by: Carol I April 09, 2006 01:01 pm |
Monument of the 2nd Cavalry Division |
| Posted by: ANDI April 09, 2006 03:24 pm |
| Can you specify the location of that monument? I think it will be better this way. |
| Posted by: Carol I April 09, 2006 03:54 pm | ||
Iaşi of course. |
| Posted by: dragos April 24, 2006 10:08 am |
The Heroes' Cemetery of Buzau (WW1, Romanian and German)         |
| Posted by: ANDI April 26, 2006 05:33 pm |
| The ww1 cemetery from the village of Boisoara, "Lovistei country", Valcea county. No names, just crosses. The locals are saying that there are soldiers from romanian, german and austro-hungarian army. Try to disregard the garbage from the first picture..... http://imageshack.us Inside... http://imageshack.us |
| Posted by: ANDI April 26, 2006 07:29 pm |
| This used to be the monument for the memory of gen. D.Praporgescu, who was mortally wounded in this mountains in the autumn of 1916 (the monument is placed vis-a-vis of the bridge to Caineni village on the Olt valley, near to DN7). For some reason this monument was distroyed, the picture and the words of rememberance were erased. It is also very true that in front of the local church is a quite similar monument, where gen. Praporgescu is remembered, along with the 10 local heroes who managed to hold the advancing german army and gave the impression of an important roumanian force.Perhaps the local authorities have decided to change the location of that monument.....  http://imageshack.us |
| Posted by: ANDI April 27, 2006 05:14 pm |
| This is the ww1 "PRO PATRIA" war cemetery located in Calinesti village, Olt valley. Here are buried roumanian, german and austro-hungarian soldiers. Some with names, some with ranks and places where their remains were found. Each cross is for two or more soldiers. http://imageshack.us http://imageshack.us |
| Posted by: dragos May 09, 2006 10:04 am |
| A Romanian war cemetery will be inaugurated on 1 June 2006 at Tiganca, Republic of Moldavia, a place of some of the heaviest fights during the battle for liberation of Bessarabia and Northern Bukovina. Here are some photos of the work in progress:       http://www.once.ro/cimitire/cimitir_tiganca.php |
| Posted by: Claudiu1988 May 09, 2006 10:30 am |
| Romanian ww2 Cemetery in Constanta http://imageshack.us |
| Posted by: Claudiu1988 May 09, 2006 10:33 am |
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| Posted by: ANDI May 09, 2006 10:33 am |
| They are doing a great work at Tiganca. This is something we should see more often. |
| Posted by: Claudiu1988 May 09, 2006 10:38 am |
| Romanian ww2 Monument http://imageshack.us |
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| Russian ww2 Cemetery and Monument http://imageshack.us |
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| Russian Navy Monument ww2 http://imageshack.us |
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| ww2 German Monument http://imageshack.us |
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| Posted by: Claudiu1988 May 09, 2006 10:58 am |
| Here is a monument for the french soldgers who fought in the 1854-1855 war. Do you know anything about this war? http://imageshack.us |
| Posted by: Claudiu1988 May 09, 2006 10:59 am |
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| Posted by: Victor May 09, 2006 11:22 am | ||
The Crimean War. Where are the cemeteries located? |
| Posted by: Claudiu1988 May 09, 2006 11:32 am |
| Here is a picture with the location of the Central Cemetery. http://imageshack.us |
| Posted by: Claudiu1988 May 09, 2006 11:37 am |
| Here is a closer picture. http://imageshack.us black circle - The Crimean War Cemetery orange circle - ww1 Romanian Cemetery (I will put some pictures later) red circle - German ww2 Cemetery blue circle - Romanian ww2 Cemetery green circle - Soviet ww2 Cemetery |
| Posted by: Claudiu1988 May 09, 2006 11:42 am |
| Here are the graves of the french soldgers. http://imageshack.us |
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| Romanian ww1 Cemetery http://imageshack.us |
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| Posted by: ANDI May 16, 2006 08:57 am |
| It has been a week, by now, since I wrote an e-mail to ONCE, concerning the situation with the war cemetery from Gheboaia- Finta village, Dambovita county. Still no reply....   After seeing the work in progress at the Tiganca cemetery, I thought they would gladly accept other restoration projects. Seems I was wrong. I will probably contact them by phone. |
| Posted by: New Connaught Ranger May 16, 2006 08:11 pm |
| DEVA HERO'S GRAVEYARD 2006: The small soviet section is being used as a toilet and slept in by alcoholic street people  there are 28 headstones only one with a name, and its also inscribed how the body was returned to Russia in 1968. The Romanian marble monument is falling to pieces and has been camouflaged for the ceremony on the 9th of May. Only the 84 WW2 graves to the right of the Monument had flowers placed on them and the grass cut. The 58 graves to the upper right and located behind the soviet section were left like a jungle. Personally I think its an insult to the brave men who gave their lives in the service of the country that they have been left in such conditions  . Local military units should bear the responsibility for cleaning and maintaining the graveyards if the local civil authorities wont do it.MAJOR EDIT: In 2007 a radical clean up was started at this site, in Deva, the Soviet section is being re-done, (made smaller)  The old white marble Romanian Monument replaced with a black one. Even so the 58 graves to the left-side have very faded inscriptions in fact they are unreadable!!! http://imageshack.us Typical Example. Kevin in Deva.  |
| Posted by: ANDI May 26, 2006 08:18 pm |
| Well, today I got the response from ONCE. It seems that they know about the existence of the war cemetery from the village of Finta. It was arranged by the germans in 1917 and there are buried 488 heroes: 428 romanians and 60 germans. The papers with all the evidence for the burials were handled by the germans and we (romanian authorities) don't have them. Perhaps we will retrieve them someday. There were only 2 romanian heroes identified: major Berindei and lt. Marinescu Vasile. There were also erected 2 memorial crosses: one made out of wood, 17meters high (now missing) and one made from Campulung stone (still visible in the pictures about this cemetery above posted). Anyway ONCE promised that they are going to make a visit to that place. I hope they will keep me posted. I really want to help them with everything I can. |
| Posted by: Dénes May 30, 2006 02:49 am |
| Article in today's Adevarul daily (in Rumanian), titled: 'Cemetery in [Republic of] Moldova for the fallen [Rumanian] wartime heroes'. http://www.adevarulonline.ro/2006-05-30/Actualitate/cimitir-in-modova-pentru-eroii-cazuti-in-razboi_186468.html Gen. Dénes |
| Posted by: New Connaught Ranger May 30, 2006 08:24 pm |
| More pictures of the Romanian overgrown side, to the rear of the Russian section http://imageshack.us After a clean up: http://imageshack.us http://imageshack.us Russian section in Deva Graveyard. Major redesign of the Soviet section and the actual area is being made smaller: http://imageshack.us http://imageshack.us Kevin in Deva. |
| Posted by: New Connaught Ranger May 30, 2006 09:09 pm |
| This all new Black marble is a virtual copy of the original white marble one in shape and size, the white one was seriously degraded with bits starting to fall off it. http://imageshack.us New Monument in Black marble,l erected in 2007. http://imageshack.us After a major revamp in 2007 this was just left by the workers employed to replace some of the boundary stones! Bad enough that locals dump rubbish from the civil graveyard over the wall into the military section and this lot left in the bushes by the alcoholics who sleep there:angry: http://imageshack.us Kevin in Deva |
| Posted by: Dénes May 31, 2006 01:42 am | ||
Follow-up to the article I signalled yesterday: 'Regele trece Prutul' http://www.adevarulonline.ro/2006-05-31/Actualitate/regele-trece-prutul_186584.html Gen. Dénes |
| Posted by: dragos June 07, 2006 11:24 am |
| More of the military cemetery of Buzau: Im Kampfe Treu * Im Leben Fest * Im Dulden Stark * Im Sterben Frei   "In memory of the 968 German soldiers buried in this cemetery during the Second World War 1939-1945. Their fate urges reconciliation." "Donated by Dieter Bourquin in the memory of his father who rests in this cemetery."  |
| Posted by: dragos June 07, 2006 11:26 am |
Turkish graves |
| Posted by: dragos June 07, 2006 11:30 am |
The Soviet military cemetery of Buzau (16 identified soldiers, several mass graves)      |
| Posted by: ANDI June 10, 2006 08:31 pm |
| Pictures from the Mateias mountain mausoleum (and osuary), Dragoslavele area, WW1. http://imageshack.us http://imageshack.us |
| Posted by: ANDI June 10, 2006 08:44 pm |
| Details. http://imageshack.us http://imageshack.us |
| Posted by: Imperialist July 13, 2006 09:47 pm | ||
http://www.gandul.info/2006-07-14/drapelul_romaniei |
| Posted by: ANDI July 14, 2006 05:47 am |
| Hmmm, why is it that I am not surprised ....!!!!!????? |
| Posted by: RHaught July 15, 2006 01:33 pm |
| Just found a church in a very small village northwest of Iasi. It has a small monument telling telling us about the unknown heroes who died in August 1944 and has about 50 crosses of unknown Romanian, German and Soviet soldiers. The road was small and muddy then had to walk up about 100 steps to reach it. |
| Posted by: ANDI July 15, 2006 08:46 pm |
| RHaught, can you post some pictures? They tell more than a story... Here is the local Heroes Monument from the village of Geamana, Dambovita county. http://imageshack.us |
| Posted by: RHaught July 15, 2006 08:51 pm |
| Leave July 20th for the states. Have to celebrate wedding anniversary upon arriving but have pics of the cemetary. However, only have my camera right now (no cord for USB) but will post once I get back. There are also WWI and WWII hero sections in the cemetery in Roman (didn't have my camera with me since we were there for a 40 remembrance thing, not Orthodox so do not know the correct term for this). |
| Posted by: ANDI July 17, 2006 05:18 pm |
| Photos with the ww1 german war cemetery from Dragoslavele village, Arges county. http://imageshack.us http://imageshack.us |
| Posted by: ANDI July 17, 2006 05:23 pm |
| Same location. http://imageshack.us http://imageshack.us |
| Posted by: RHaught July 22, 2006 07:41 pm |
| Use the following links to see the pics of cemetaries. Was easier than doing seperatly. WWI: Moldoveni (near Roman) and Iasi cemetaries http://s44.photobucket.com/albums/f45/rkhaught/Romania%20WWI/ WWII Rediu Unknown and Iasi http://s44.photobucket.com/albums/f45/rkhaught/Romania%20WWII%20Cemetaries/ |
| Posted by: Carol I January 11, 2007 09:32 pm |
| Images from the military cemetery in Podu Iloaei: Entrance gate (probably a previous one as the entrance has been redesigned)  |
| Posted by: Carol I January 11, 2007 09:33 pm |
Apparently, the cemetery dates back to 1948 |
| Posted by: Carol I January 11, 2007 09:36 pm |
It is a rather large cemetery ... |
| Posted by: Carol I January 11, 2007 09:38 pm |
... with a church ... |
| Posted by: Carol I January 11, 2007 09:41 pm |
... and an ossuary for the remains of the unknown soldiers fallen in the area. |
| Posted by: Carol I January 11, 2007 09:46 pm |
One of the air vents was open, so I tried to take a peek inside ... |
| Posted by: Carol I January 11, 2007 09:49 pm |
... and was saddened to see modern plastic garbage among the human remains. |
| Posted by: Carol I January 11, 2007 09:52 pm |
There is also a smal plot for 73 soviet soldiers fallen in 1944. |
| Posted by: Carol I January 11, 2007 09:54 pm |
The remainder of the cemetery appears to be for Romanian soldiers. |
| Posted by: Carol I January 11, 2007 09:57 pm |
In contrast to the http://www.worldwar2.ro/forum/index.php?showtopic=2492&view=findpost&p=46105, the crosses are made in wood, but are all named. |
| Posted by: Carol I January 11, 2007 10:00 pm |
Probably the nameplates in aluminium withstood the wear and tear of the elements. May 1944 is one of the earliest dates on the crosses. |
| Posted by: Carol I January 11, 2007 10:02 pm |
The dates extend all the way to August 1944. |
| Posted by: RHaught January 24, 2007 11:18 am |
| Might be a good idea to begin a preservation of the cemetary due to the wooden crosses. The one of the unknowns near Iasi had these and the nationality only but were removed and replaced with cement ones but the nationality was not placed on them afterwards. |
| Posted by: Victor April 23, 2007 10:51 am | ||
A little off topic, but here is gen. Praporgescu's tomb in the Bellu cemetery in Bucharest. Sorry for the poor quality (phone camera).  |
| Posted by: Dan Po April 24, 2007 12:19 pm |
| unfortunately in romanian only, an http://www.realitatearomaneasca.ro/content.php?c=articole&id_categorie=5&articol_id=7267&p=14&article=tiraspolul+distruge+un+cimitir+militar+romanesc+din+tighina about how a romanian military cemetery will be destroied by some bolsevic relics ..... |
| Posted by: Cristian October 11, 2007 07:52 am |
| A monument I found hidden in some bushes near the cemetery in the Sighisoara old fortress If you can translate, you're welcome http://img156.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=88698_IMG_0272_122_745lo.JPG http://img16.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=88706_IMG_0273_122_841lo.JPG http://img175.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=89043_IMG_0274_122_682lo.JPGhttp://img194.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=89045_IMG_0275_122_17lo.JPGhttp://img183.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=89054_IMG_0276_122_85lo.JPG |
| Posted by: New Connaught Ranger October 12, 2007 08:21 am |
| I came across this one two years ago on a visit to Sighisoara with my brother on holiday from Ireland, The monument is erected to the memory of members of the German community of Sighisoara, killed in Military Service in WW1. It is in sand-stone and has suffered some graffiti by ignorant vandals!! The first picture reads: THE DEAD HEROES! The Inscription loosely translated reads: " Erected to their memory by the Church members and the Berg school, in 1927." If my memory serves me correctly there were the names of the dead inscribed on it as well I think to the rear. I see a small plaque has been removed from the base as well. Its time these monuments were afforded the protection they deserve as historical monuments before even more of Romania's rich history is lost forever. Kevin in Deva. |
| Posted by: Cristian October 16, 2007 07:26 am |
| Another in the same place http://img130.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=19507_IMG_0264_122_223lo.JPG |
| Posted by: New Connaught Ranger October 16, 2007 09:25 am | ||
This one reads: "WILHELM WEINHOLD" FIREWORKER (Civil Occupation?) K.u.K* Field Cannon, Regiment Number 36. Born: 30. 06 1892 Died: 06. 11. 1916.** K.u.K = Austro-Hungarian Forces. ** = 24 years of age. Kevin in Deva. |
| Posted by: zerkalli January 10, 2008 06:23 pm |
| Pictures with Mousoleum from Valea-Mare Cimpulug Muscel http://www.unosettantadue.net/component/option,com_gallery2/Itemid,34/lang,it/?g2_itemId=12188 |
| Posted by: New Connaught Ranger January 30, 2008 11:16 am |
| Monument to war dead near Vulcan, Petrosani, Hunedoara. http://imageshack.us Made from Concrete / Beton. http://imageshack.us Graves to:Romanians, Germans/Austrians and Hungarians. Kept in good condition. Kevin in Deva. |
| Posted by: Victor February 22, 2008 11:16 am |
On Monday I drove through Prunaru and stopped by at the cemetery of the 2nd Rosiori Regiment.    |
| Posted by: mele22 March 17, 2008 06:28 pm |
| Did you guys know about these monuments in Bucharest dedicated to the American soldiers who died in WW2? In Cismigiu Park http://imageshack.us And in Kiseleff Park http://imageshack.us |
| Posted by: C-2 March 17, 2008 08:45 pm |
| Unfortunatly I did..... |
| Posted by: Dénes March 17, 2008 09:48 pm |
| Shouldn't that rather be 'theirs'? Gen. Dénes |
| Posted by: Imperialist March 18, 2008 08:15 am | ||
'Jertfa lor eroica o vom pastra vesnic in amintire iar gandurile noastre pioase si pline de admiratie...' Those guys came here to bomb Romania, isn't that underlined part a bit too much? Our thoughts full of admiration? |
| Posted by: guina March 18, 2008 08:56 am |
| Colateral damage,will be called today ! |
| Posted by: mele22 March 18, 2008 08:18 pm | ||||
It was built by Americans. It isn't us who 'will remember their sacrifice...', although we're not to quick to forget it either.  I found these articles about the two monuments if anyone's interested: http://bucharest.usembassy.gov/us_policy/Press_Releases/Ambassador_Taubman_06202007-ro.html http://www.gandul.info/actualitatea/monument-americanii-cazuti-romania.html?3927;941802 |
| Posted by: 21 inf March 21, 2008 11:50 pm |
| The stone with shape as an open book can be also seen in the ww1 military cemetry of Sinaia, near the building of Casino, if it is not the same stone, moved from Sinaia to Bucharest. |
| Posted by: RHaught March 22, 2008 11:43 pm | ||
No, their is plural so it is correct. As for bombing Romania in the other post. The US did not try to bomb civilian targets in the country just the refineries and oil production companies. FDR didn't want to go to war against Romania because he knew that Romania was stuck with Germany and going against its will most likely. |
| Posted by: Ferdinand April 07, 2008 04:22 pm |
| hi guys! i don't know if someone posted about this cemetery. the cemetery is in oarba de mures. i was there for other reasons, so i had a short time for pics. http://imageshack.us http://imageshack.us http://imageshack.us i don't remember what was stated on the monument....as my time there was short... i had other interests in the area  |
| Posted by: Claudiu1988 September 08, 2008 01:26 pm |
| Here is the Heroes Monument in Codlea. Many of the soldiers written on the monument don't have a grave including my grand grand parents, bought died in ww1 on the front. Their names are Pripis Ioan and Silea Ioan http://imageshack.us |
| Posted by: Claudiu1988 September 08, 2008 01:28 pm |
| http://imageshack.us http://imageshack.us http://imageshack.us http://imageshack.us |
| Posted by: New Connaught Ranger September 08, 2008 02:30 pm | ||
Two German Artillery pieces if I am not mistaken, An anti tank cannon and a 30cm Anti-Aircraft Cannon. thanks for posting. Kevin in Deva. |
| Posted by: Messerschmitt September 10, 2008 05:54 am |
| To be more specific, the cannon is a PAK 40. As far as i can see, it doesn`t have the original wheels. |
| Posted by: New Connaught Ranger September 10, 2008 06:41 am | ||
Hallo Messerschmitt Your description is spot on, also see:- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/7.5_cm_PaK_40 Kevin in Deva. |
| Posted by: Avvoltoio September 11, 2008 09:46 am |
| and the anti air gun is a 2 cm flak 30 here is an other in a museum:  |
| Posted by: aurelian November 11, 2008 06:08 pm |
| Cimitirul eroilor din primul razboi mondial BAZARGIC ( DOBRICH ) - august 2008 |
| Posted by: aurelian November 11, 2008 06:38 pm |
| 2008 - Cimitirul eroilor Bazargic (Dobrich) |
| Posted by: aurelian November 11, 2008 07:09 pm |
| Heroes cemetery from wwI Bazargic ( Dobrich ) - 2008 |
| Posted by: New Connaught Ranger November 11, 2008 09:16 pm | ||
Are we supposed to see a picture here?? |
| Posted by: aurelian November 12, 2008 04:07 am |
| Yes, you must see a photo , but i'am new and I don't know yet how to post a photo. |
| Posted by: aurelian November 12, 2008 05:49 pm |
| I can't post photos.If somebody know how, I'll send the photos to his email to post them for me. Sorry for that and thanks! |
| Posted by: aurelian November 14, 2008 08:07 am |
| Heroes cemetery from wwI Bazargic ( Dobrich ) - 2008 http://imageshack.us http://imageshack.us http://imageshack.us http://imageshack.us http://imageshack.us |
| Posted by: aurelian November 17, 2008 06:43 pm |
| Heroes cemetery from wwI Bazargic ( Dobrich ) - 2008 - II http://img261.imageshack.us/my.php?image=09082008340to4.jpghttp://g.imageshack.us/thpix.php |
| Posted by: aurelian November 17, 2008 06:55 pm |
| Heroes cemetery from wwI Bazargic ( Dobrich ) - 2008 - II http://img267.imageshack.us/my.php?image=09082008341wf4.jpghttp://g.imageshack.us/thpix.php http://img267.imageshack.us/my.php?image=09082008342yi7.jpghttp://g.imageshack.us/thpix.php http://img267.imageshack.us/my.php?image=09082008349sp4.jpghttp://g.imageshack.us/thpix.php http://img267.imageshack.us/my.php?image=09082008352le5.jpghttp://g.imageshack.us/thpix.php http://img267.imageshack.us/my.php?image=09082008357op5.jpghttp://g.imageshack.us/thpix.php |
| Posted by: feic7346 November 20, 2008 09:51 pm |
| Where is bazargic? |
| Posted by: aurelian November 21, 2008 05:09 am |
| Bazargic is the former name of the town who is named Dobrich today in Bulgaria and who was in Romania from 1913 to 1940.Between 1916-1919 it was under bulgarians and form 1940 belongs to Bulgaria. Here, in 1916 it was one of the first fights of the romanian and russian forces whit the bulgarian, german and turkish forces. There is an monument in the Karadja village of this fights. |
| Posted by: aurelian November 27, 2008 08:05 am |
| WW1 Cemetery PITESTI http://img380.imageshack.us/my.php?image=100420071011xg9.jpg http://img267.imageshack.us/my.php?image=100420071031hz1.jpg |
| Posted by: aurelian November 27, 2008 08:10 am |
| As you can see there are even heroes of France buried here. In PITESTI there is an military hospital where many soldiers die from wounds, typhos,flu, etc. |
| Posted by: New Connaught Ranger November 27, 2008 08:30 am | ||
Thanks for posting the pictures from PITESTI, Looking at the cross with:- SOLD. FRANCEZ ROMAIN. it looks more like a name to me than an indication that the soldier is French. In the other picture the graves have K.u.K so a Austrian connection. Kevin in Deva. |
| Posted by: Cantacuzino November 27, 2008 10:47 am | ||
Normally on the upper row is written the rank and on the second row the name and first name. In this case on the upper row is written the rank and the nationality. " Francez" in romanian language is "french". On the second row is written only the first name "Romain" wich is a french name (not romanian). |
| Posted by: aurelian November 27, 2008 11:46 am |
| Yes, I belive that's corect: french soldier named ROMAIN (if we can search in the database of the french military mission in Romania at taht time we can identify the hole name). There are also, if we look at the names, polish, hungarians, serbs, romanians from Transilvania etc in the german and austo-hungarian sector. In the civilian cemetery there are also buried medical nurses how died from flu or typhos in 1917 when they were working in the military hospital. |
| Posted by: New Connaught Ranger November 27, 2008 07:04 pm | ||
Thanks for the extra info, I have pictures of French graves in Timisoara, none of the headstones / crosses themselves make reference to France, that info was on a separate large Cross:- http://imageshack.us http://imageshack.us Part 1. http://imageshack.ushttp://imageshack.ushttp://imageshack.ushttp://imageshack.ushttp://imageshack.ushttp://imageshack.ushttp://imageshack.ushttp://imageshack.us All pictures property of: Kevin A. Ryan Collection 2008. Kevin in Deva. |
| Posted by: New Connaught Ranger November 27, 2008 07:45 pm |
| PART TWO:- http://imageshack.ushttp://imageshack.ushttp://imageshack.ushttp://imageshack.ushttp://imageshack.ushttp://imageshack.ushttp://imageshack.ushttp://imageshack.ushttp://imageshack.ushttp://imageshack.us All pictures property of: Kevin A. Ryan Collection 2008. Kevin in Deva. |
| Posted by: New Connaught Ranger November 27, 2008 08:06 pm |
| PART THREE:- http://imageshack.ushttp://imageshack.ushttp://imageshack.ushttp://imageshack.ushttp://imageshack.ushttp://imageshack.us All pictures property of: Kevin A. Ryan Collection 2008. Kevin in Deva |
| Posted by: dragos December 22, 2008 09:56 pm |
| Soviet military graves in Sighisoara. http://imageshack.us http://g.imageshack.us/img504/img2250dm4.jpg/1/ http://imageshack.us http://g.imageshack.us/img167/img2251vm3.jpg/1/ http://imageshack.us http://g.imageshack.us/img72/img2257ir4.jpg/1/ http://imageshack.us http://g.imageshack.us/img95/img2258vd5.jpg/1/ |
| Posted by: aurelian January 03, 2009 03:09 pm |
| WW 1 heroes cemetery in Tg. Jiu (str. Narciselor) http://img147.imageshack.us/my.php?image=02012009369bd8.jpg http://img147.imageshack.us/my.php?image=02012009362xo9.jpg http://img147.imageshack.us/my.php?image=02012009366jq3.jpg http://img255.imageshack.us/my.php?image=02012009367mm3.jpg http://img255.imageshack.us/my.php?image=02012009370rx6.jpg |
| Posted by: aurelian January 03, 2009 03:12 pm |
| In the same cemetery there is the soviet WW 2 section-cemetery. |
| Posted by: aurelian January 03, 2009 03:16 pm |
| In the municipal cemetery (an other cemetery on the str. Narciselor) in the catholic cemetery there is an polish section where there are buried polish soldier of the WW 2 who died in Tg. Jiu. |
| Posted by: aurelian January 03, 2009 03:23 pm |
| In the municipal cemetery there is the catholic cemetery who has an polish section of the polish soldiers who died in WW 2 and where burried in Tg. Jiu. http://img230.imageshack.us/my.php?image=02012009360no4.jpg http://img230.imageshack.us/my.php?image=02012009361av1.jpg |
| Posted by: aurelian January 04, 2009 09:18 am |
| Some informations about the french soldiers who died in Romania, found on internet: Cimitirul Eternitatea IASI Le cimetière Eternitatea abrite un imposant monument dédié "Aux Français morts en Roumanie 1916-1918". En cours de restauration en mai 2007, il est formé d'un obélisque de couleur blanche, orné d'une croix de guerre. Une crypte fermée par une énorme chaîne cadenassée ne renferme plus que quelques plaques encastrées dans les murs latéraux. Sur 39 morts inhumés dans le caveau, ces plaques ne portent plus que les noms suivants, inhumés au cimetière Eternitatea de Iaşi le 22.01.1921 : - Général LAFONT [conseiller du général Henri Mathias Berhelot (1861-1931), commandant de la mission militaire française à Iaşi], † 29.11.1918 - Dr J. CLUNET, médecin-major du 2e C.T., † 03.04.1917 - Eugène Joseph DUFRECHE, médecin aide-major de la 1re compagnie, hôpital n° 277, né le 18.03.1871, † Botosani le 26.04.1917 - Marie PICARD, infirmière, † 20.10.1917 - Omer ARCENS, capitaine, † 15.04.1917 - Charles CAUBET, lieutenant, † 16.04.1917 - Émile LOISEAU, adjudant, aviateur, † 31.08.1917 - Mahomet BEN AM, caporal, † 10.04.1918 - Léopold DELAFOY, caporal, † 23.06.1917 - Célestin LECRET, soldat, † 04.04.1917 N.B. : 677 Français sont tombés en Roumanie pendant la première guerre mondiale. Jean-Marie Thiébaud Alexandria - Teleorman Cimetière militaire (Relevé n° 36457) (Catégorie: Cimetière militaire) Situation - informations : Le cimetière comporte des tombes de soldats francais, roumains, allemands, bulgares et turcs, tous tombés lors de la guerre 1914-1918. Dans la partie francaise, de nombreuses tombes portent la mention «Soldat inconnu». Relevé effectué par : Michael ALLARDIN, 35 personnes Mis en ligne : 25/09/2007 (ref:re3) Résultats - 1 à 35 sur 35 Nom Prénoms Guerre ABDELAZIZ 1914-1918 BACOIN 1914-1918 BEN Alala 1914-1918 BEN AHMED Efenco 1914-1918 BEN AHMED Mehidja Seliman 1914-1918 BEN AHMED Mohamed 1914-1918 BEN ALI Boila 1914-1918 BEN ALI Zarbar Adela 1914-1918 BEN AMAR Belhamen 1914-1918 BEN CHIA Djilali 1914-1918 BEN CHIA Etmen 1914-1918 BEN DANDI Larben 1914-1918 BEN IUSUF Mohamed 1914-1918 BEN NABLI Noubi 1914-1918 BEN SALA Hadj Ben Ali 1914-1918 BEN SLIMEN Mohamed 1914-1918 COSUBE Gegina 1914-1918 CURA Ali 1914-1918 DORGANS Jean Pascal 1914-1918 FALLI Amar 1914-1918 HEN Chid 1914-1918 IANCUF Ahmed 1914-1918 IONE Mamadou 1914-1918 JANGORE Amarala 1914-1918 JATON Ebo 1914-1918 KADER Salem M. 1914-1918 KAIIR Abdulah N. 1914-1918 MADOCHE 1914-1918 MESOUD Farhl 1914-1918 NOM Diop 1914-1918 POGO Amachine 1914-1918 RENAULT Eugene 1914-1918 SEGIA Abduru 1914-1918 TAVALI Sapani 1914-1918 TEACADA Sa. 1914-1918 |
| Posted by: aurelian January 04, 2009 09:22 am |
| Once again, for the medical staff, an monument in Reims - France, where are mentionated and 18 romanian medical nurses: Le monument aux infirmières de Reims Le monument « à la gloire des infirmières françaises et alliées victimes de leur dévouement » érigé à Reims après la Première Guerre mondiale, a été financé par une souscription internationale lancée par un Comité d'honneur fondé et présidé par Juliette ADAM, et dont le secrétaire général était Auguste MAZURE. Ce Comité avait reçu le soutien des plus hautes autorités de la République française et de nombreuses personnalités des pays alliés de la France pendant la Première Guerre mondiale. Le Livre d'Or des infirmières L’inscription gravée sur le monument « La ville de Reims garde pieusement en ses archives le Livre d'Or des nobles femmes tombées au champ d'honneur », m’a longtemps laissé perplexe, car aux archives municipales, on n’avait pas trace de ce livre d’or, finalement retrouvé dans les archives de la Croix-Rouge rue Houzeau-Muiron, et remis à la Ville de Reims en 2005. Désormais, conformément à l'inscription du monument, un exemplaire du Livre d'Or des infirmières est conservé aux Archives municipales et communautaires de Reims. Y sont inscrits les noms de 979 infirmières dont 434 appartenant au seul Empire britannique : - 346 infirmières du Royaume-Uni - 53 infirmières canadiennes - 35 infirmières d'Afrique du Sud - 283 infirmières américaines - 211 infirmières françaises - 33 infirmières italiennes - 18 infirmières roumaines |
| Posted by: aurelian January 10, 2009 08:53 am |
| The tomb-monument of slt. Ecaterina Teodoroiu, the romanian woman symbol of heroism, in the central square of Targu Jiu. She was brought here from Moldova in 1921 and she was reburied in the presence of her parents , local and central authorities, peoples of Targu Jiu, Gorj and many others. Later in 1935 an monument by Milita Petrascu was added on Ecaterina's tomb. http://img356.imageshack.us/my.php?image=02012009373xt1.jpg |
| Posted by: aurelian January 10, 2009 01:05 pm |
| ECATERINA TEODOROIU n. 14 ianuarie 1894, satul Vădeni (azi Târgu Jiu) - m. 22 august 1917 sat Muncelu (com.Straoane)-Vrancea foto carte postala din epoca (anii 20-30) http://img133.imageshack.us/my.php?image=teodoroiuecaterinaau7.jpg Village Muncelu-Vrancea The monument of Ecaterina Teodoroiu on the place where she died. http://img108.imageshack.us/my.php?image=monumentecaterinateodoret8.jpg The Adrian helmet of ECATERINA TEODOROIU -Romanian National Museum -Bucharest http://img15.imageshack.us/my.php?image=32670ks0.png |
| Posted by: Tyke January 12, 2009 12:12 am |
| Below is an image of the rear page of the "Supplement Illustre du Petit Journal", of 21 October 1917. It depicts an artist's impression of the death of Ecaterina Teodoroiu. http://imageshack.us http://g.imageshack.us/img530/ecteoxr3.jpg/1/ The description of the engraving is on page 2 of the publication and reads as follows: "Glorious death of a Romanian Heroine. The Romanian newspapers announce the death on the field of honour, during an attack, of Sub-Lieutenant Ecaterina Teodoroiu. A volunteer since the war was declared against Austro-Hungary, she had taken part in all the combat from the start of the war. She had been wounded twice and following her exploits she was promoted to Sub-Lieutenant. Her magnificant courage had galvanised her soldiers during the recent battles on the Oituz and she had been nominated for the rank of Lieutenant" The original image is just less than A3 size. |
| Posted by: Tyke January 12, 2009 12:26 am |
| In 1992 a set of 6 stamps was issued to commemorate various anniversaries. The 30 Lei stamp marked 75 years since the death of Ecaterina Teodoriou. http://imageshack.us http://g.imageshack.us/img161/ecteostampmp6.jpg/1/ |
| Posted by: aurelian January 12, 2009 07:20 am |
| The tomb of an french officer W.W. 1 The monument for the romanian-french army broterhood 1916-1919 from Varnita-Racoasa-ROMANIA Cod LMI (Lista Monumentelor Istorice): VN-III-m-B-06587 RO Description: The monument, code LMI VN-III-m-B-06587 is situated near Varnita.There are two memorials signs. On left, a cross, is dedicated to a french officer from the French Military Mission in Romania who died here. You can read: “Ici repose le lieutenant Richard Henry Jean, de la glorieuse Armee Francaise, mort en heroes pour la Grande Roumanie- Regiment 62/70 infanterie-16 martie 1917”. “Aici odihneste locotenent Richard Henry Jean din glorioasa Armata Franceza, mort eroic pentru Romania Mare-Regiment 62/70 infanterie-16 martie 1917”. "Here rest in peace lt. Richard Henry Jean of the glorious French Army, dead heroic for the Great Romania-Reg. 62/70 infantry-16 march 1917". On right, is dedicated to a romanian officer, You can read: “Plt. Dobre Gudun dead for his country-16 septembrie 1917”. Location: On the road Focsani-Soveja http://img57.imageshack.us/my.php?image=showimagezo0.jpg http://img57.imageshack.us/my.php?image=rmracoasajv4.jpg |
| Posted by: aurelian January 15, 2009 07:10 am |
| col. POENARU BORDEA GHEORGHE The very first romanian military falled in W.W.1, was on 14 august 1916, at Fundata-Brasov-Transilvania - col. POENARU BORDEA Gheorghe. His tomb is on the place where he died, at the former romanian and austro-hungarian border. http://img382.imageshack.us/my.php?image=fundataco1.jpg |
| Posted by: Dénes January 15, 2009 11:47 am | ||
By any chance, do you know in which circumstances did he die? Gen. Dénes |
| Posted by: aurelian January 15, 2009 12:31 pm |
| As I know, he was killed when the border check-point was atacated. |
| Posted by: chisi January 18, 2009 11:16 am |
| A deserted monument between Daia and Rosia, near Sibiu. Around this monument, are still visible some -what it was - trenches. http://img232.imageshack.us/my.php?image=picture122ku2.jpg Funny story: The bronze eagle from the top the monument was stolen. It was replaced with another, made of terracotta. It was stolen again... |
| Posted by: ANDI February 03, 2009 02:39 pm |
| http://www.sibianulonline.ro/sibiu-tv/video-cimitirul-ascuns-al-eroilor-din-primul-razboi-mondial-3222456 |
| Posted by: Dénes February 03, 2009 06:22 pm |
| "Un cimitir cu 204 soldaţi români, austrieci şi germani..." Typically, no Hungarian soldiers are listed, despite most probably Hungarians were also lying in some of those 204 graves. Commendable job with the recovery effort, though. Gen. Dénes |
| Posted by: ANDI February 03, 2009 07:34 pm | ||
Yes, the media made a mistake. These things happens. Nevertheless, the more important thing is that ALL the soldiers buried there received proper religious service, military honours and a proper burial ground. |
| Posted by: Dénes February 03, 2009 08:05 pm | ||
I agree 100%! Gen. Dénes |
| Posted by: 21 inf February 04, 2009 04:17 am |
| Maybe Hungarian, Romanian transylvanian, slovacs, czechs and other nationalisties who served in AH army are mentioned under the generic name of "austrian soldiers". |
| Posted by: Dénes February 04, 2009 06:32 am |
Since when is Austrian a 'generic' name?  Gen. Dénes |
| Posted by: Victor February 04, 2009 07:16 am | ||
The media in Romania doesn't usually excel in history, geography, physics, biology etc. Actually most of it doesn't excel in anything but gossip, scadnals and "stars". |
| Posted by: 21 inf February 04, 2009 02:19 pm |
| Agree 100% with what Victor posted above. Romanian journalists aren't documented well enough, sometimes one can find in written, spoken or visual media a lot of unacceptable erors about romanian history, not to mention in this case the foreign history. One can imagine that if romanian journalists dont know well enough romanian history, how well can they be documented related to a foreign subject of history... |
| Posted by: aurelian February 05, 2009 12:44 pm |
| In my opinion there must be estabilshed a procedure which must contain some elements in case of the military heroes cemeteries. The military heroes burial places must have a list at the entarnce with the numbers, names (when the name is unknown will be writen unknown), nationality, place and date of birth( when is avaible), the date of death, etc. Archives must be researched. It is necesary just to care to someone who can. |
| Posted by: 21 inf February 09, 2009 06:14 pm |
| http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCDLKrE9mWM&feature=related the ceremony from the above presented cemetery. |
| Posted by: Dénes February 09, 2009 07:42 pm |
| Apparently, it wasn't a simple lack of historical knowledge of a single journalist after all. The official marble plaque also mentions only Rumanian, Austrian and German soldiers. Gen. Dénes |
| Posted by: 21 inf February 10, 2009 04:18 am |
| Maybe in the sector fought only romanian, german and austrian units, the hungarians not being involved in that area. If I remember well, in ww1 were regiments which belonged to the austrians and regiments who belonged to hungarian army. Transylvania was the reservoir for the hungarian regiments, build up mainly from romanian transylvanians, in diferent percents from 50% above. In this regiments were also drafted hungarian, szekler and other ethnics from Transylvania and all these regiments belonged to honvedseg, not to austrian army. |
| Posted by: chisi February 14, 2009 07:13 pm |
| In the Sibiu Battle were involved: Bavarian Alpenkorps, German Divisions 189, 76, 3 (cavalry) and Austro-Hungarian Divisions 51 and 1 (cavalry) In Poplaca-Orlat - Gura Raului zone the fight took place between 23th Romanian Division and 189 german Division. The 51 Honved Austro Hungarian Division was comanded by general Staabs. So it is possible that some hungarian soldiers could be found burried in the cemeteries. Of course, we could blame the absence of hungarian names on the romanian and transylvanian saxon nationalism. Both nations are not so friendly with hungarians. There is a religious problem either, the austro hungarians (catholics) were in a christian-orthodox and evangelic protestant theatre of operations in the Sibiu Battle. As a journalist, i am agree that the media is obsessed by proximity, not acuracy. |
| Posted by: 21 inf February 14, 2009 09:35 pm |
| It is posible that hungarian units were not involved in the battle, so they dont had casualties. Before screaming that the hungarians were not mentioned, I want only to state that on romanian military cemeteries from Oituz valley are mentioned on crosses and on monuments hungarian soldiers, along with romanians and germans. Romanians are not so evil to deny the memory of fallen enemies in ww1. |
| Posted by: Dénes February 15, 2009 09:59 am | ||||||
Very good overview of the participant forces, Chisi. The only differences are that it was the 187th German Infantry Division (not the 189th), the 76th Germ. Div. was a reserve one, and Gen. Staabs was the commander of the Staabs Combat Unit made chiefly by the 187th and 51st Div. Most important to our topic, the 51st Division was a Honvéd (i.e., Hungarian) unit, not a mixed Austro-Hungarian (like the 1st Cavalry Div.). Yet, despite this Honvéd unit being in the thick of the battle, they either did not have a single dead soldier, or the bodies somehow vanished in thin air - at least that's the only possible explanation according to 21inf., why there is not a single Hungarian soldier's tomb marked as such in the cemetery.
Your words, not mine.
First, there were no "austro hungarians" per se, only Austrians or Hungarians (like there were no "Czechoslovaks", for example, only Czechs or Slovaks). Second, not all Hungarians are Catholic, many of them are Protestant (Reformat), like myself, very similar to the Saxons' Evangelic Protestant religion. Gen. Dénes |
| Posted by: chisi February 15, 2009 12:24 pm |
| The Fight between Romanian troops and Honved division took place in the Daia-Rosia zone (where is the romanian monument in the picture i put here). The bodies in the Poplaca cemetery are from isolated graves from the villages in the Marginime zone: Gura Raului, Orlat, Poplaca, Rasinari. I do not believe that the peasants knew exactly which was hungarian, austrian, german or bavarian soldier, so, under the generic name of "austro-hungarian unknown soldier", it is possible to be some hungarian military fighters. The hungarian names of the fallen I saw at the cemeteries from Cincu-Gross-Schenk (a "heroes cemetery" in the military area in the exercise field) and at Carta-Kerz, inside the cistercian church. I put the religious problem because the war memorials in the evanghelic CA saxon churches are for exclusive the local villagers who served in the KuK army, and, sometimes (in the case of Carta and Cisnadioara) the other roman-catholic german heroes (austrian and bavarian). Sibiu zone have less reformat-hungarian churches and I do not know about the existence of "intra ecclesia muros" war memorials for hungarian soldiers. Being a large community of romanians and saxons in Sibiu zone, of course they took care of their heroes... I will ask my hungarian colaborators if there is a sign of hungarian war monuments or cemeteries in the zone Off topic: It is correct, as patriots and history lovers that we are, not to hate other nations just because some written by command nationalist history books or political interests, from any side they might come. In war, no nation is exclusevily bad or good. |
| Posted by: 21 inf February 15, 2009 12:39 pm |
| I didnt said that the posible hungarian casualties simply evaporated. Just asking that before saying that the hungarians were not mentioned, it was usefull to point first if they were fighting in the area, in order to probe if they were really there. Now we have the confirmation from a romanian that hungarian units were there, involved in the battle, and this is a starting point to search if hungarian troops are buried there or in other places. |
| Posted by: Dénes February 15, 2009 03:35 pm | ||
Why, the word of a non-Rumanian is not good enough? Gen. Dénes |
| Posted by: 21 inf February 15, 2009 04:39 pm |
| Did I said that? Maybe i forget to say a romanian journalist, who bravely admited the ignorance of some of his fellow journalist in Romania? And if i didnt forget to say journalist near romanian, since when is a problem that i mentioned that he is what he is...a romanian??? Why dont YOU pointed which hungarian units fought in the area BEFORE saying that they were not mentioned on the ceremony and on the monument. Another example that romanian army is not bad intented is the military cemetery from Sinaia, near the Casino. There are buried soldiers from different nations, their nationality being properly indicated on the funerar monuments: a romanian hero, a german hero or a hungarian hero. Romanians wrote in stone about those unfortunate soldiers that they were all heroes: romanians were heroes for their country, germans were heroes for their beloved Germany and hungarian were heroes for their beloved Hungary. All, together, are heroes, as long as they fought corectly and died bravely for their countries. |
| Posted by: chisi February 18, 2009 09:34 am |
| Three names that are probably hungarian (or of hungarian origin) from the plates located inside the evangelic (german) church in Sibiu It is the possibility that the persons could be germans, but with hungarian ancestors. I hope that Denes wound help... Johann Pal, Joh. (ann?) Szemerjai, Viktor Czeck, There is some romanians either: Emil Motzan and Michael Carp |
| Posted by: Dénes February 18, 2009 10:37 am | ||||
The first two are definitely Hungarian family names (one should disregard the Germanised Christian names, as it was customary to do so at that time). I am not sure of the third one, though, he could also be of Slavic origin.
Motzan certainly sounds Rumanian; however, Carp could be something else, too. Thanks, Chisi, for looking after this topic. Now, if we could only locate a list of names from the newly reopened cemetery, we could conclude this topic. Gen. Dénes |
| Posted by: 21 inf February 18, 2009 04:21 pm |
| My opinion regarding names of people above, from Transylvania, is that Johann Pal might be as well Ioan Paul (or Pavel) and Joh. Szemerjai could be I(oan) Simerian, both romanian. Both family names can be found even today and they are romanian ones (Paul-Pavel and Simerian). The last name can be the direct translation of Simerian romanian name in hungarian, giving the fact that town name Simeria (in romanian) is Piski in hungarian. Motzan is 100% romanian (Moţan, means from moţi land) and Carp is also 100% romanian in the same spelling. I dont know what could be the nationality of V. Czeck, i asume as Denes did that this one can be of slav origin. The religion of this people might be relevant about their national origin. If they are non-ortodox or non-greekcatholic, they are almost sure not romanian or at least romanians on the way of germanisation or else. The overwhelming majority of romanians are ortodox and a much little number are greekcatholic in Transilvania. Insignifiant number of romanians are of other religion than above. |
| Posted by: Dénes February 18, 2009 07:19 pm |
| C'mon 21inf, your fantasy is soaring again (bati câmpii). ANY name can be somehow Rumanised, or vice versa (for example, Motzan can be a person from the locality of Moca, currently in Slovakia, inhabited mostly by Hungarians --> this is, of course, only a joke). This is what I was exactly afraid of, namely if we will find several Hungarian names among the fallen soldiers somehow you will explain to us how they are actually not Hungarians, but Rumanians (or Magyarised Rumanians). Apparently, no proof can persuade you to admit that your theories centering around Hungary and the Hungarians are sometimes wrong. Gen. Dénes P.S. BTW, Szemerjai (i.e., a person from Szemerja) refers to a small locality in Covasna County (the name coming from Szent Maria, or St. Mary), inhabited mostly by Hungarians/Seklers. |
| Posted by: 21 inf February 19, 2009 05:46 pm |
| Thanks, Denes, for drawing my atention about "batutul campilor". I have no intention to give an oposite opinion to yours, i was just giving an alternative to romanians who dont speak hungarian at all, in comparison whith me who i'm speaking a little and you who are speaking very well as your mother language. I myself agreed your opinion about slavic name of Czeck. Also, being romanian from Transilvania, I know beter that my fellow romanians from Regat how were translated romanian names in hungarian and the fact that religion is the "hallmark" of transilvanian romanian. Even a part of my family was in this situation previously ww1 and even in ww2. In this fashion i have an uncle who has even today the family name "Gondor Gabor" (sorry that i dont have hungarian punctuation to be exact), but he was "Creţu Gavrilă" in romanian and his religion was ortodox. Also, another from my family was "Balogh Togyer" in ww2, but his name is Bologa Toader and he is also ortodox. Just two examples from my family regarding conection between translated names in hungarian/romanian religion. If I am hard to be convinced about some issues, it is probably because i'm as stubborn as my "moţi" ancestors were, in which case guilty is the genetic (just kidding).Finally, just a joke: Szent Maria and Szemerja can be Sânmărie or Sântămărie  Denes, no intention from my part to offence you or your nation and no intention to say something just to be against you. If you are right with Szemerjai, i'm glad at least that you corected me and i had the oportunity to learn something new and improve my hungarian knowledge. Thanks! |
| Posted by: Dénes February 19, 2009 09:25 pm |
| 21inf, no doubt magyarization did happen, not only in Transylvania, but in the entire Hungarian Kingdom. For example, one could be member of the élite vitéz order, established by Horthy in 1920, only if he had a Hungarian sounding name. Accordingly, many soldiers with German names changed their names into Hungarian ones. However, Rumanization equally happened in Transylvania, after 1919. To stick to my family, in my mother's native village near Reghin, back then inhabited by Hungarians and Saxons, my great uncle was a teacher in the local school. After the Rumanians came in in 1919, he was offered to keep his job only if he Rumanized his name, from the Hungarian Borsos (i.e., one who is 'peppered') to Borşoş. Only two small commas under the s-es. Nevertheless, he did not agree, and subsequently was fired, his place being taken by a native Rumanian coming from the 'Regat' (i.e. pre-W.W. 1 Rumania), who did not speak either Hungarian or German. Or, my father, born in 1927, was not allowed officially to have a Hungarian Christian name; therefore, he became Dionisie instead of Dénes (he could regain his real name only after he moved in Hungary in the early 1990s). However, all these are history now, and in our common European Union nothing like this can (should) happen any more. That's exactly my point raised at the beginning of this long and windy thread. Namely, in the XXIst Century, in a EU member state like Rumania is, it sould be OK to list the name of Hungarian soldiers who died for their country almost a century ago, not only of Germans and Austrians, who came from far away to die in a foreign land. My opinion. Gen. Dénes P.S. You see, I also learn some Rumanian here. I just realised that it should be "batutul campilor", instead of "batutul campiilor", as I would have said. |
| Posted by: dragos May 12, 2009 10:20 pm |
| http://img136.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dscn0463y.jpg http://img508.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dscn0462.jpg |
| Posted by: 21 inf May 15, 2009 03:27 am |
| New pics I took from Oarba de Mures ww2 romanian military cemetery. http://img31.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc07260.jpg http://img31.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc07261.jpg http://img31.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc07250.jpg http://img31.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc07264.jpg http://img31.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc07266.jpg http://img31.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc07259.jpg |
| Posted by: Victor May 17, 2009 05:42 pm |
| A post with just a smiley was deleted. If one doesn't have anything of value to add to the topic, one better not post anuything. |
| Posted by: 21 inf June 30, 2009 04:08 pm |
| In 13th of June 2009 at Sărăţel village, Şieu Măgheruş, Bistriţa-Năsăud county, was erected a monument in the memory of 25 hungarian soldiers who died on romanian soil in ww2. Until 2009 the graves of those 25 were not visible, as the ground was used as pasture. From now on a cemetery was organised form those graves and a monument was raised. At the inauguration were held religious ceremonies of catholics, reformats and orthodox, in hungarian and romanian laguages. Relatives of those 25 hungarian soldiers comemorated were present at the ceremony, also oficialities, including ONCE (Oficiul National pentru Cultul Eroilor). Photos from ceremony at http://www.once.ro/ |
| Posted by: Mannlicher August 22, 2009 04:09 pm |
| Several monuments from different villages: First, Griviţa http://img89.imageshack.us/i/img1337z.jpg/ http://img524.imageshack.us/i/img1338i.jpg/ http://img197.imageshack.us/i/img1339l.jpg/ Then somewhere in Buzău (maybe Costeşti): http://img43.imageshack.us/i/img1846b.jpg/ http://img32.imageshack.us/i/img1848n.jpg/ http://img524.imageshack.us/i/img1849.jpg/ Almost done, Pătârlagele: http://img32.imageshack.us/i/img1850e.jpg/ http://img197.imageshack.us/i/img1851x.jpg/ And finally, Oarba de Mureş: http://img24.imageshack.us/i/img1868c.jpg/ http://img89.imageshack.us/i/img1870l.jpg/ ...see next post |
| Posted by: Mannlicher August 22, 2009 04:15 pm |
| ...with it's gutted 20mm flaks guarding the rear entrance http://img268.imageshack.us/i/img1864s.jpg/ http://img524.imageshack.us/i/img1871q.jpg/ markings: http://img89.imageshack.us/i/img1872a.jpg/ http://img197.imageshack.us/i/img1875z.jpg/ http://img40.imageshack.us/i/img1880s.jpg/ and the mortars guarding the main entrance: http://img44.imageshack.us/i/img1865cme.jpg/ http://img40.imageshack.us/i/img1866s.jpg/ |
| Posted by: Frenchie February 16, 2010 07:56 am |
| I'm looking for graves and monuments related to any French soldier buried in Romania. Thanks to you, I could located tombs of the French soldiers of Timisoara (and to publish their names in the French website dedicated memorial-genweb). So far I'm still missing Pitesti, Galati and Oreada french graveyards - if someone has some information or pictures, it will be most welcome. Once, we identified a tomb, we can cross checked with some other data base and find information such birth place, regiment, date of death, reason of death etc ... It usually helps people doing genealogical research and even for some people to come in Romania to visit the graves. The whole project is based on volunteer and the results can be consulted by anyone free of charge. Most of the research I've made can be found in the following link (sorry it's in French) : http://www.memorial-genweb.org/~memorial2/html/fr/resultdpt.php?dpt=9114 reading your thread, I saw that you were looking for Romanian soldiers buried in foreign country. You can find below, what so far, some volunteers identified as Romanian graveyards in France. The list should grow in the coming months. WW1 Romanian soldiers (mostly POW) : http://www.memorial-genweb.org/~memorial2/html/fr/resultnatio.php To access information, click on the link ''source'' Also you can look at this link : http://www.memorial-genweb.org/~memorial2/html/fr/resultnd.php Mostly WW2 casualties (resistant, romanian citizen engaged in the French army). We can easily say that most of them are real heroes. Many thanks, Mike |
| Posted by: 21 inf February 16, 2010 10:50 am |
| As far as I know there is no french military cemetery in Oradea, nor any french graveyard from ww1 in Oradea. There is only a monument into a parc in center of Oradea, monument very debated when it was raised, after 1989, because the people arguing said there was no presence of french troops in Oradea in ww1, like it was the case in Banat at the end of ww1, in 1919 and some period of time after this year. |
| Posted by: New Connaught Ranger February 16, 2010 01:29 pm |
| Hallo Frenchie / Mike Welcome to the Forum, if you want to copy my pictures on this thread, of the French graves located in Timisoara, please feel free to do so. Kevin in Deva. |
| Posted by: 21 inf February 16, 2010 01:55 pm |
| On the french site there is an error regarding the monument of the french soldiers from Oradea. The french site says that in Oradea is a monument erected to honour the french soldiers who are buried in Oradea. In reality, on romanian site of ONCE it is sayd in romanian about the Oradea monument dedicated to french soldiers: "Opera comemorativă a fost dezvelită în memoria eroilor francezi care au murit în România în Primul Război Mondial, fiind aituată în spatele Casei de Cultură." Translation: "The comemorative work was inaugurated in the memory of french soldiers who died in Romania during WW1, being emplaced in the back of Cultural House". As I said above, there are no french men buried in Oradea, cos french army was never in Oradea during ww1. |
| Posted by: Frenchie February 16, 2010 04:35 pm |
| Thanks for your quick replies. 21 inf : ''As far as I know there is no french military cemetery in Oradea, nor any french graveyard from ww1 in Oradea.'' Good to know, it will avoid uneccessary research there - i was misleading by a document from ONCE stating that there some French soldiers buried in a desafected graveyard from Oradea called Ruvikovski (pdf doc - page 9 and 10) : http://www.once.ro/carti/Eroi%20si%20morminte_vol%20II/004%20Catalin%20Fudulu.pdf (sorry i don't to cut and paste from a pdf doc) Thank you as well to spot the wrong translation about Timisoara monument - we'll make the change. Kevin from Deva : Many thanks to give us the authorization to use your pictures. It's really helpful. |
| Posted by: 21 inf February 16, 2010 08:02 pm | ||
The monument I was refering it's in Oradea, not in Timisoara, and for this from Oradea the translation was wrong in the french website. |
| Posted by: 21 inf February 16, 2010 08:09 pm | ||
Yes, indeed, the pdf document from ONCE site says in romanian language that there was a military cemetery in Oradea were french soldiers from french military mission were buried. I knew only the debate about raising the monument, it seems that in a certain period of time french soldiers were indeed buried in Oradea. Sorry for misleading you, unintentionally. Living for all my part of my life in Oradea, I can tell that nowadays in Rulikovski cemetery there is no military cemetery from ww1, neither romanian, nor foreign. The pdf document stated that there IS NO MORE foreign military cemetery from ww1 in Oradea, since 1952, when it was disabled. The article doesnt provide any info about what happened with the bones of buried foreign military from ww1, only that after some years of discussion between Oradea's Townhall and Ministry of Defense, the cemetery was disabled. |
| Posted by: Frenchie March 01, 2010 11:08 am |
| Hello again, Sorry for the delay of the answer, but I spend time to look in the archives for French regiments in Oradea in 1919. 21 inf : You were right, so far I find no French regiments positionned in Oradea. The French army group called ''Armee de Hongrie'' was deployed in Timisoara, Szeged, Arad, Lugoj.... No presence northen than these location. They are only two options for the presence of French soldiers in Oradea : - French officers and soldiers (few) among the Romanian regiments as military advisors (most of the Romanian regiments had French military advisors), - French POW (mostly troops from French Morocco) who died in German labor camps located in Romania (Slobozia, Alexandria, some in Transilvania). They were used on field labor (harvesting etc..) Most of them died during spring 1918. FYI Some reports of the G.Q.G. of the ''Armee de Hongrie'' mentioned the brave attitude of the romanian soldiers during the fight against the hungarian bolchevick troops. Meanwhile, if there is any interest for the people from this forum, I put online the records of Romanian citizen who joined the French Army and died for France during WW1 - http://picasaweb.google.com/111388742841678276618/RomanianCitizenInTheFrenchArmy19141918# it's in french, you have the name, surname (most of the time, the name changed and become more french then romanian), you will find their regiment, place of birth, and when and where they died. I gather 5 or 6 records. If you are interested I can put much more online. Once again thank you to Devin. Thanks for your pictures of the graves, we identified some soldiers. |
| Posted by: Frenchie March 01, 2010 11:34 am |
| sorry mispelling : Once again thank you to Kevin. Thanks for your pictures of the graves, we identified some soldiers. instead of Once again thank you to Devin. Thanks for your pictures of the graves, we identified some soldiers. |
| Posted by: New Connaught Ranger March 01, 2010 04:55 pm | ||
Mike, You are more than welcome, its our duty to remember them. Will the pictures be uploaded to the French website? Kevin in Deva. |
| Posted by: Frenchie March 01, 2010 06:02 pm |
The website memorial GenWeb accepts only general pictures of the graveyard. I send the one you took. If it's okay with you I will upload the individual tombs in a personal webpage. I hope to be able to put all graves of French soldiers in Romania. So far I have Bucarest and Alexandria.If anyone has pictures from other place .....  |
| Posted by: New Connaught Ranger March 01, 2010 06:14 pm | ||
Of course you may post the pictures on a personal webpage, Please also post any info on the individuals whose name appear on the gravemarkers in my photographs. Kevin in Deva. |
| Posted by: 21 inf March 01, 2010 06:47 pm |
| Frenchie, please post more personal data about romanians on that adress were you already posted the info about romanians from french army. I have a question: can you explain the translation of the names of those romanians, into french, as are they in thise documents? Some family names sound german and some french. I can explain german names, but not the french ones. Can you help solving the "mistery"? |
| Posted by: Dénes March 01, 2010 08:23 pm | ||
21inf., the key is what Frenchie wrote: those were Rumanian citizens, not necessarily Rumanians. Not everybody born in Rumania is Rumanian, per se... For example, I met once in Brasov a Henschel Hs 129 pilot called... Chefneux. Gen. Dénes |
| Posted by: Frenchie March 01, 2010 09:25 pm |
| Well Denes is right for some individuals. Also from a quick view, you have Romanian names, Germans and also jewish names ... Generally speaking, it was an use in the French administration to make the name of foreigner to sounds more ''French'' (that was the case of my grand father). It's not only a question of nationalism, but sometimes foreign names can sounds strange, funny or sometimes vulgar when said in French. Also it happens, that the person doesn't know to read, and the officer of the administration wrote what he heard (like in phonetic) - an sometimes the results can be far from the original names. It can be also a simple mistake : You can see the record of ''Ceaus Alexandru'' from Bacau who became ''Ceaux Alexandre'' http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/j0FJK90vQSxqpSaInWwjNQ?feat=directlink And last, sometimes they purely translate the name (''Padurea'' can become ''Bois''/Forrest). Maybe that's the case for ''Boisguerin Mircea'' Anyway, you have for now 41 records ... enjoy ... and more to come |
| Posted by: Frenchie March 01, 2010 09:29 pm |
| and this is the page, where I start to post pictures from graveyard http://picasaweb.google.com/111388742841678276618 |
| Posted by: contras March 02, 2010 04:35 pm |
| Very interesting, Frenchie, I see some were from Legion Etrangere. |
| Posted by: Frenchie March 07, 2010 10:08 am |
| 138 records founds in the French army archives. http://picasaweb.google.com/111388742841678276618/RomanianCitizenInTheFrenchArmy19141918# I probably missed some individuals, but it gives you an idea about where these soldiers came from, where they fight, where and how they died. Indeed Contras, you are right, more than 70% of these individuals joined the Foreign Legion. In terms of causes of death we have the following : K.I.A. : 51% M.I.A. : 21% (usually it means, nothing remains from the body) Death due to war wounds : 17% (to have an idea about the wounds, have a look at the record of Ciorne Avrain) Illness : 7% Accidents : 4% (most are plane accident) Record of Ciorne Avrain : http://picasaweb.google.com/111388742841678276618/RomanianCitizenInTheFrenchArmy19141918# If I find another records, i'll let you know. If some of you wants to download pictures and use it, please feel free. |
| Posted by: contras March 07, 2010 11:24 am |
| Thank you, Frenchie, if you find other records about Romanians in Foreign Legion, please let me know. |
| Posted by: 21 inf March 07, 2010 03:05 pm |
| Interesting info, Frenchie. Keep them coming, maybe there will emerge some real romanian soldiers. From the documents posted I identified (probably) only one romanian oficer, aviator, died at Salonika, Greece. The others are actually french soldiers, as they were in Foreign Legion. They were not romanian soldiers! More, they were (most of them) not of romanian origins, but they were israelites. Some of them were naturalised in France, so the only common thing they had to Romania was their birth place. Few of those listed were romanians by ethnicity and as long as they didnt fight in romanian uniform, they were not romanian soldiers, they were romanians only by birth (and probably by citisenship, if they keep it after joining the Legion). The real romanian soldiers are considered only those who fought in romanian uniform (see the case of romanian transylvanian volunteers from Russia in ww1). As exception from this rule are transylvanian romanian volunteers from Italy and France, equiped in italian, respectively Foreign Legion uniforms, but with romanian regimental flags and recognised by italians and french as being romanian units. |
| Posted by: Frenchie March 09, 2010 08:39 am |
| Far away from me the idea to open a debate on ethnic issues ... At a first view, we can see that from 60 to 70%, these individuals joined the French army at the early stage of the war in 1914 (you can see this information on the part called ''matricule xxxx au Corps''), and few cases are in 1915 and 1916. Considering the average age of this kind of individuals (at least the one up to 20 to 38 years old), this is clear, they were not French citizen (or naturalized). If it would have been the case, they should have been registered at the army at 20 (''matricule xxxx au Corps''). I just want to enlight, that the vast majority of these people, joined the fight in a period when Romania was still a neutral country and not at war (8/1916). At least from a French point of view, I found amazing that people from Romania (no matter their ethnic origins), a country still at peace at that time, decided to joined the fight. And then, took part of the battles in the Marne and Somme (bloodiest place of WW1). The other question (for the few of them who survived the first two years of the war), is why they dont joined the Romanian army. Once you have signed (Legion or other regiments), you have no choice : stay where you are or received 12 bullets. Beside, in terms of logistic it would have a nightmare to try to send few individuals to Romania in 1916 (through Russia?). Regarding the Romanian legion fighting in France, this regiment was officially created only on October 22th 1918 by a decret of President R. Poicare (even if troops were fighting since 1917 in a regiment of Romanian soldiers). They received officially the Romanian flag in 1919. |
| Posted by: 21 inf March 09, 2010 12:48 pm |
| Far from me also to discuss ethnic origins of those guys, I wanted only to highlight that denomination of "romanian soldiers" is not quite proper for them. About their reasons to join FL, I think is what they are nowadays: adventure spirit, maybe ilegalities made and trying to avoid law and police and so on. Who knows, maybe some thought they fight for Romania, but in FL... Frenchie, do you have some pics with romanian soldiers from France from ww1, those in FL uniforms? Can you post them here, please, if you can find some? |
| Posted by: Ferdinand March 09, 2010 07:06 pm |
| military cemetery in Cincu ww1, romanian soldiers. what is strage to me is that there are only romanian graves, yet the cross is erected by a german general. i think there are also austro-hungarian and german graves but during the comunism the stones have been removed. http://img131.imageshack.us/i/img1669s.jpg/ http://img705.imageshack.us/i/img1670z.jpg/ http://img689.imageshack.us/i/img1667j.jpg/ http://img230.imageshack.us/i/img1666o.jpg/ gruss |
| Posted by: adambrown May 11, 2010 10:53 pm |
| Attached is the photograph of the grave of our cousin Solomon Avadic who was killed while serving in a Dorobanti regiment of the Romanian Army during WWI. His headstone, which appears to be typical of the other gravestone in this military cemetery, is very unusual. Does anyone in this forum recognize the cemetery in which he might be buried? Any leads would be greatly appreciated. The burial record is in Romanian, and reads: Solomon Avadic, died November 16, 1916 It also provides the grave location but as yet we do not know the location of the cemetery. http://picasaweb.google.com/103612498459139489618/FamilyHistory#5470150341246126178 |
| Posted by: Cantacuzino May 13, 2010 11:43 am | ||||
Having the date of death and using the link with data of the battles from 1916 you can reduce the area of serch I believe that he died in the battle for Bucharest and was burried somewhere in an old Bucharest cemetery. http://enciclopediaromaniei.ro/wiki/1916 8 noiembrie/21 noiembrie: Oraşul Craiova este ocupat de trupele germane. 10 noiembrie/23 noiembrie: Dunărea este forţată la Zimnicea de armatele germano-bulgare. 11 noiembrie/24 noiembrie: Râul Olt este forţat la Stoieneşti de către armata germano-austro-ungară care începe astfel operaţiunile în Câmpia Munteniei. 12 noiembrie/25 noiembrie: Autorităţile române părăsesc Bucureştiul şi încep retragerea spre Iaşi. 15 noiembrie/28 noiembrie: Eroica şarjă a Regimentului 2 Roşiori de la Prunaru-Vlaşca, soldată cu pierderi grele pentru ostaşii români. 16 noiembrie/29 noiembrie-20 noiembrie/3 decembrie: Bătălia de pe Neajlov şi Argeş ("bătălia pentru Bucureşti"), cea mai mare operaţiune de pe frontul românesc din anul 1916. Armata română este înfrântă şi se retrage, lăsând Bucureştiul în mâna inamicului. |
| Posted by: adambrown May 15, 2010 02:34 am |
| @ Cantacuzino Your advice was superb. I visited the website for the Romanian military graves restoration project and leafed through the photographs of the Bucharest cemeteries. http://www.once.ro/ro/cimitire_romanesti_romania.php On the web page of the "Filantropia" Jewish cemetery in Bucharest, I found photographs of what is very clearly his place of rest. Our cousins - his grandchildren - who have never known where he is buried, are very pleased indeed.... Thank you! Adam |
| Posted by: Cantacuzino May 15, 2010 06:34 am | ||
Glad to help. I never knew that in Filantropia cemetey (B-dul Ion Mihalache) were buried soldiers from WW1. http://img64.imageshack.us/i/filantropia2.jpg/ http://img130.imageshack.us/i/filantropia.jpg/ |
| Posted by: 21 inf May 15, 2010 10:57 am | ||||||
The datas quoted were introduced by me in Enciclopedia Romaniei a couple of years ago. I never believed that i'll see who will use it and with what benefit. I'm glad that I didnt voluntarily worked for free for ER. The world seems to be so small |
| Posted by: 21 inf June 20, 2010 05:07 am |
| Military cemetery from ww2 in Chieşd village, Sălaj county. 10 graves, from which 3 identified heroes and 7 unknown heroes. The names and ranks of known heroes are sergent Ioan Popescu, fruntaş Vasile Vecerdea and Maria Breja (aprox. 18-19 year old girl, civilian, KIA while shooting rifle against german troops). All died on 21 october 1944 while fighting to liberate Chieşd village from german and hungarian troops garisoned in the village. All soldiers belonged to 90th Infantry Regiment. The military cemetery http://img156.imageshack.us/i/dsc08794k.jpg/ http://img693.imageshack.us/i/dsc08795e.jpg/ Detail http://img444.imageshack.us/i/dsc08798.jpg/ |
| Posted by: 21 inf November 09, 2010 04:32 pm |
| I forgot to tell that I personally cut the grass, repainted the names of soldiers, tied the tricolor on the tombstones and took care of the cemetery, puting it in the shape you see in the photo above, as it was previously almost half abandoned. The name of the girl is not marked on the grave, but I posibly identified her tomb between those 2 known soldiers (and her name), interviewing the villagers. |
| Posted by: Dénes November 09, 2010 10:21 pm |
| That's a very nice and admirable gesture. Congratulations! Gen. Dénes P.S. Only the plastic flowers are redundant, IMHO. |
| Posted by: 21 inf November 10, 2010 07:47 pm |
| Thanks, Denes! Except the paint for the crosses (which I buyed in the village) and the trimmer for the grass (I brought it from home), all materials I found in place, including the plastic flowers, which I dont personally like it at all, but I didnt knew what to do with them and I didnt wanted to throw them away, as were part of "local culture", the children from the village put them there. |
| Posted by: Cantacuzino November 11, 2010 07:50 am | ||
I also observed that in the country, people ( usually poor farmers) used plastic flowers in the cemeteries. The plastic age had a nocive influence everywhere. I remember when reserching for B-24 crash site was told me that one old lady had a sort of aluminium tank ( for oxigen or fuel) from a B-24 crashed nearby. When I asked the old Lady about it she said that she made an exchange with a plastic wash-bowl from gypsies. |
| Posted by: Frenchie January 30, 2011 08:40 am |
| Bunaziua, Vei incerca sa scrie in limba Romana, mie de scuze in advance, pentru orice gresele. Caut in disesperare poze despre cimitir militar din Galati. Ma interesez in mod particular soldati francezi ingropat acolo. Cineva are cumva niste poze cu mormintele lor (cu numele vizibil) si/sau de orice monument in memorial lor amplasat acolo. Va multumesc anticipat pentru ajutor. I am collecting these information for a French website where graveyards and name of our soldiers are recorded in order to help family/genealogists or researchers to find place where they are buried. This is a totally filantrpic project. You can see more about this website at this address (http://www.memorial-genweb.org). It's important to keep alive their memory. If by some miracle someone can help me, of course, the origin of the information will be mentioned in the website (as it was with the pictures send by Kevin from Deva - once again a big thanks to him - http://www.memorial-genweb.org/~memorial2/html/fr/resultcommune.php?dpt=9114&idsource=49898&table=bp08) That was a message in a bottle, Thank you in advance, Michael |
| Posted by: Frenchie January 30, 2011 09:06 am |
| For your information, this is a video (from the french side) regarding the ''hommage'' to the Romanian soldiers who died in captivity during WW1 http://www.ecpad.fr/ceremonie-d-hommage-rendue-aux-soldats-roumains Trailer of a documentary about French and Romanian relations WW1 (at 1 minutes 06, you can see the Romanian soldiers fighting in the French Foreign Legion) : http://www.ecpad.fr/bande-annonce-le-pain-et-le-sel Some pictures from french and romanian soldiers and officials WW1 http://www.ecpad.fr/la-roumanie-dans-la-grande-guerre |
| Posted by: Frenchie February 13, 2011 08:15 am |
| I went to Galati and took pictures of the French graveyard so the request is not longer of actuality. I took this oportunity to say that I was impressed to see how well the place is well preserved and clean. |
| Posted by: 21 inf April 18, 2011 02:29 pm |
| War memorial for romanians who died in ww1 in k.u.k. army and after 1918, until 1920 (dedicated for those who died between 1914 and 1920). Decea village, Alba county. Monument in the village's cemetery. http://img685.imageshack.us/i/dsc08104b.jpg/ http://img825.imageshack.us/i/dsc08106b.jpg/ http://img824.imageshack.us/i/dsc08107t.jpg/ http://img69.imageshack.us/i/dsc08108o.jpg/ http://img94.imageshack.us/i/dsc08110n.jpg/ One side of the memorial, whith more names, cant be readed due exposure. |
| Posted by: bansaraba April 18, 2011 06:09 pm |
| A-ti? |
| Posted by: 21 inf April 19, 2011 03:57 am | ||
It's not the only mistake from the monument. There is also "avend", corected to "având" and "poparul", corected to "poporul". To be seen also the spelling "Joan" instead of "Ioan". I supose the memorial was erected imediately after ww1 by a local artist who learned to write in romanian under k.u.k ruling. Or simply, it was a bad romanian artist who had learned bad at school. But the "J" instead of "I" is sugesting an artist from Transylvania, in my opinion. |
| Posted by: chisi May 17, 2011 06:22 am |
| The ww1 (and a little bit ww2) memorial at Boitza - Sibiu. Unfortunately, the original crosses were recently replaced, http://img685.imageshack.us/img685/3560/img0172wa.jpg http://img827.imageshack.us/img827/8176/img0173yf.jpg http://img810.imageshack.us/img810/1609/img0174k.jpg http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/9497/img0181tg.jpg http://img842.imageshack.us/img842/6982/img0182zo.jpg http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/9421/img0186ix.jpg http://img191.imageshack.us/img191/5563/img0187vyf.jpg http://img30.imageshack.us/img30/9928/img0188kf.jpg http://img802.imageshack.us/img802/6794/img0196i.jpg http://img852.imageshack.us/img852/4936/img0202l.jpg http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/2845/img0203jk.jpg http://img859.imageshack.us/img859/969/img0207dd.jpg |
| Posted by: chisi May 17, 2011 06:26 am |
| The Boitza's local heroes as they were, inside the orthodox church of the village http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/33/img0273fp.jpg/ Uploaded with http://imageshack.us |
| Posted by: 21 inf May 19, 2011 03:09 am | ||
Nice example! |
| Posted by: 21 inf August 12, 2011 05:03 pm |
| A sad fate http://www.jurnalul.ro/special/special/ramasitele-eroilor-din-primul-razboi-mondial-mancate-de-sobolani-la-poiana-sarata-587288.html A photo gallery can be seen in the article. |
| Posted by: 21 inf October 02, 2011 04:45 am |
| A list of military cemeteries from Mureş county. All romanian. Abuş - 9 unknown heroes. Acăţari - 190 unknown heroes. Adămuş - 1 identified hero and 9 unknown heroes. Balda - 1 identified hero and 3 unknown aviators. Band-Drăculea - 4 identified heroes. Bălăuşeri - 41 identified heroes and 10 unknown heroes. Bogata de Mureş - 31 identified heroes and 44 unknown heroes. Beşineu - 2 identified heroes and 3 unknown heroes. Bord - 6 unknown heroes. Budiu - 40 unknown heroes. Cheţani - 3 identified heroes and 155 unknown heroes. Chirileu - 5 identified heroes. Chiheru de Sus - 32 identified heroes and 14 unknown heroes. Chiheru de Jos - 23 identified heroes and 17 unknown heroes. Corneşti-Crăciuneşti - 4 identified heroes and 7 unknown heroes. Cristeşti - 56 identified heroes and 99 unknown heroes. Cerghid-Ungheni - 59 identified heroes and 19 unknown heroes. Corneşti-Adămuş - 28 identified heroes and 23 unknown heroes. Cucerdea - 62 identified heroes and 6 unknown heroes. Crăieşti - 5 unknown heroes. Crăciuneşti - 1 identified hero and 85 unknown heroes. Cecălaca - 1 identified hero and 9 unknown heroes. Cerghizel - 7 unknown heroes. Cuci - 16 unknown heroes. Căpâlna de Sus - 13 unknown heroes. Corunca - 40 unknown heroes. Călimăneşti - 87 unknown heroes. Deag - 18 unknown heroes. Cipău - 13 identified heroes and 12 unknown heroes. Dileul Vechi - 1 identified hero and 482 unknown heroes. Deaj - 5 unknown heroes. Dâmbu - 4 unknown heroes. Dătăşeni - 3 unknown heroes. Găleşti - 13 unknown heroes. Gălăţeni - 50 identified heroes and 586 unknown heroes. Găneşti - 9 unknown heroes. Gheorghe Doja - 12 unknown heroes. Grui - 5 unknown heroes. Gheja - 4 unknown heroes. Hădăreni - 1 identified hero and 8 unknown heroes. Idrifaia - 3 identified heroes and 12 unknown heroes. Lăscud-Ogra - 20 identified heroes and 19 unknown heroes. Luduş - 2 identified heroes and 238 unknown heroes. Lunca Bradului - 2 identified heroes and 2 unknown heroes. Murgeşti - 30 identified heroes and 14 unknown heroes. Mica - 1 identified hero and 16 unknown heroes. Moreşti – 57 unknown heroes. Nadăşa – 25 identified heroes and 47 unknown heroes. Nicoleşti – 3 unknown heroes. Nazna – 31 identified heroes and 31 unknown heroes. Miheşu de Câmpie – 3 identified heroes and 2 unknown heroes. Orosia – 1 identified hero and 1 unknown hero. Odrihei – 19 identified heroes and 11 unknown heroes. Oarba de Mureş – 465 identified heroes and thousands of unknown heroes. Ogra – 16 unknown heroes. Păucişoara – 3 identified heroes and 8 unknown heroes. Pănet – 2 unknown heroes. Petrilaca – 3 unknown heroes. Roteni – 8 unknown heroes. Sărmăşel – 2 identified heroes and 1 unknown hero. Şeulia de Mureş – 37 identified heroes and 6 unknown heroes. Stejeriş – 2 unknown heroes. Sighişoara – 207 identified heroes and 21 unknown heroes. Şăulia de Câmpie – 1 identified hero and 1 unknown hero. Sânpetru de Câmpie – 2 identified heroes and 7 unknown heroes. Şomoştelnic – 13 identified heroes and 11 unknown heroes. Suplac – 7 identified heroes and 3 unknown heroes. Sântioana de Mureş – 120 unknown heroes. Sâniacob – 52 unknown heroes. Serbeni – 30 unknown heroes. Subpădure – 23 unknown heroes. Silivaşu de Câmpie – 3 unknown heroes. Sărmaşu – 7 identified heroes and 38 unknown heroes. Şilea Nirajului – 3 unknown heroes. Sânpaul – 11 identified heroes and 20 unknown heroes. Tirimia – 18 identified heroes and 17 unknown heroes. Tâmpa – 1 unknown hero. Târnăveni – 275 identified heroes and 216 unknown heroes. Târgu Mureş – 283 identified heroes and 207 unknown heroes. Tirimioara – 3 unknown heroes. Troiţa – 2 unknown heroes. Ungheni – 5 identified heroes and 7 unknown heroes. Vaidacuta – 2 unknown heroes. Valea Largă – 2 identified heroes and 2 unknown heroes. Vidrasău – 31 identified heroes and 3 unknown heroes. |
| Posted by: Dénes October 02, 2011 06:12 am |
| This Summer, while in Tg.Mures, I stopped by the Soviet Army cemetery on the Somos-tetö (sorry, I don't know the Rumanian name). Above the large cemetery, there is a smaller one for the German soldiers fallen around the city. I could not find the resting place of the fallen Hungarian soldiers. Gen. Dénes |
| Posted by: 21 inf October 02, 2011 07:24 am |
| Somos-tetö is Dealul Corneşti in romanian. There are buried 9 identified soviet heroes and 91 unknown soviet heroes. On Mureş county there are also soviet military cemeteries at: -Crăieşti: 1 identified soviet soldier and 1 unknown soviet soldier. -Glăjărie: 1.236 unknown soviet soldiers. -Hodoşa: 50 unknown soviet soldiers. -Iernut: 49 unknown soviet soldiers. -Luduş: 56 unknown soviet soldiers. -Sighişoara: 1 identified soviet major and 120 unknown soviet soldiers. -Târnăveni: 96 unknown soviet soldiers. -Voivodeni: 300 unknown soviet soldiers. Unfortunatelly my bibliography says nothing about german or hungarian military cemeteries. |
| Posted by: MMM October 02, 2011 10:39 am | ||
These seem to be major points of conflict, given the number of casualties! Quite a share of Soviet blood for Romania... |
| Posted by: New Connaught Ranger October 02, 2011 10:52 am |
| Over the last 12 months I have noticed a couple of things with regards Romanian WW2 Cemetery's that's disturbing:- 1. The Turda Cemetery for WW2 Romanian Heroes is in shocking condition, soil erosion after rain fall is carrying away large sections of the ground in which the men are buried. Its arranged in a series of steps like levels held back by small walls. It needs urgent attention before the remains are exposed to the weather. The plus side in Turda Cemetry is the Hungarian section for WW2 is well kept and a credit to those who look after it. 2. In Medias, near Sigisoara, the Cemetery of Heroes for WW2 Romanian have developed the nasty practice of painting the word "Unknown" on the crosses instead of replacing the official identification panels that have been removed. Kevin in Deva. |
| Posted by: 21 inf October 02, 2011 03:46 pm |
| Hungarian military cemetery from Turda is maintained by an hungarian NGO, it is their merit that the cemetery look so well. The bad habit of deliberatelly erasing the identity of known romanian heroes by romanian authorities is, unfortunatelly, a frequent situation. I met this kind of situation in other cemeteries, too. Lack of respect, of interess, of education, of common sense is only a few explanation for this kind of atitude. Unfortunatelly also, romanian civil society is almost absent. Lack of involvement of civil society+lack of involvement and competence of authorities=disaster, as one can see almost everywere. |
| Posted by: Ferdinand November 26, 2011 08:51 pm |
| WW1 SIRIU(JUD. BUZAU) CEMETERY mainly soldiers from 34 inf. reg. + 1ww2 grave good condition, new gate http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/225/dsc1107x.jpg/ http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/705/dsc1110v.jpg/ http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/51/dsc1112ah.jpg/ http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/10/dsc1116p.jpg/ http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/521/dsc1118d.jpg/ http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/525/dsc1123k.jpg/ http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/638/dsc1108v.jpg/ |
| Posted by: Ferdinand November 26, 2011 08:56 pm |
| Dumbrava cemetery-Buzau aviator http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/831/dsc1140g.jpg/ http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/85/dsc1141z.jpg/ http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/707/dsc1142ih.jpg/ |
| Posted by: Ferdinand November 26, 2011 09:23 pm |
| My father's village in Vrancea. some 30 graves all ww2. http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/444/dsc1178o.jpg/ http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/502/dsc1183t.jpg/ http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/856/dsc1181.jpg/ http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/707/dsc1187v.jpg/ one relative of mine with his father's cross. http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/341/dsc1188i.jpg/ |
| Posted by: 21 inf December 15, 2011 06:19 pm |
| This monument is erected in the courtyard of a hospital from Ploieşti. http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/6/photolfz.jpg/ |
| Posted by: fekiac November 09, 2013 07:09 pm |
| Hello everybody, I have a question about record in Military death record book. There is writen that a person died "on battlefield in Vulturulni near Foscani Romania. He was buried "1917, 2nd of February near church in Vulturulni". Perhaps there is mistake in the name of the place? What could it be in reality? I can not find such village, could anybody advise? Some web page with info about victims of WWI buried in Romania? Do you think , is it possible to find such grave? Thanks a lot for any help in advance! |
| Posted by: Petre November 10, 2013 09:25 am |
| I can see near Focsani a village named Vulturu. |
| Posted by: fekiac November 10, 2013 07:40 pm |
| Thanks to Petre!!! It seems it could be the place! On the https://maps.google.com/ I can see street wiev of the church "Biserica Sf Ioan Botezatorul" and in front of it a Memorial, where is written TRIOITA... I can't read more. Seems to be war memorial with names of soldiers. I think to connect to some regional club of military history to ask for help with searching in church records. Do you have some idea how to find some? Is there any local club or individual? Can anybody advise? |
| Posted by: Petre November 10, 2013 08:16 pm |
| TROITA (TROITZA) is a large cross in wood or stone, in a public place... In that county there are more mil. cemeteries of WW1. It seems on that monument there is a german cross. Eventually you can ask the mayor. |