Thx in advance.
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| Posted by: csThor November 07, 2010 10:40 am |
| Can anyone supply information on the ammo loadout of the IAR 80 and 81? There is not a lot around on the internet and sources conflict. I'm interested in the first IAR 80 series (4x 7,62mm MGs), IAR 81A and IAR 81C. Thx in advance. |
| Posted by: Radub November 07, 2010 12:01 pm |
| The 4-gun IAR80 carried 2400 rounds of 7.92mm ammunition The 6-gun IAR80A and IAR81 carried 2400 rounds of 7.92mm ammunition The IAR80B carried 1600 rounds of 7.92mm ammunition and 300 rounds of 13.2mm ammunition (which was later increased to 350) The IAR80C carried 1600 rounds of 7.92mm ammunition and 120 rounds for the 20mm MG-FF cannon The IAR81C carried 1400 rounds of 7.92mm ammunition and 350 rounds for the MG151/20 cannon There was no IAR81A. It was planned as a dive bomber with heavy machine guns but it was never built. HTH Radu |
| Posted by: csThor November 07, 2010 12:06 pm |
350 rounds for the MG 151/20 ?  That's a lot. Are you sure about that?PS: Thx for the info. Could you pls list your sources? I need that for Il-2 1946 and Team Daidalos for one of the next patches. |
| Posted by: Radub November 07, 2010 12:31 pm |
| The 350 rounds of amunition is the figure known so far. The best source available at this moment is the book "Vanatorul IAR80, Istoria unui erou necunoscut" by Dan Antoniu and George Cicos, Editura Modelism, 2000 I recently finished the work on a new book on the IAR80 that will be published soon by SAM Publications in the UK. Please contact me off-list. Regards, Radu |
| Posted by: Hadrian November 09, 2010 09:50 pm |
| 350 rounds for 2 MG151/20 means 175 rounds per cannon. Me-109 G had 200 rounds for it`s Motorkanone, La-5 had 200 rounds per gun. |
| Posted by: csThor November 10, 2010 05:02 pm |
Yes, that dawned on me a while after I posted.  Sometimes you don't see the wood for the trees. |
| Posted by: Hadrian November 10, 2010 07:58 pm |
Dass kann jemand passieren...  This can happen to everybody... |
| Posted by: Hadrian November 10, 2010 08:08 pm |
| 10 IAR-81A were built in 1943, but because the germans released the Ju-87 for delivery, they were striped from their centerline bombrack and delivered as fighters (IAR-80B). |
| Posted by: Radub November 11, 2010 09:28 am | ||
I assume you are referring to the series 291-300. Indeed, these serial numbers were assigned to the IAR81A, but in the end they were manufactured as IAR80B. The aircraft type was written in black on the tail above the serial number. A number of existing photographs of aircraft of this series show that they were "80" not "81". HTH Radu |
| Posted by: Alex30cag February 14, 2011 02:55 pm |
| a scheme of IAR machineguns you can defing here:http://www.airwar.ru/enc/fww2/iar80.html http://www.airwar.ru/enc/fww2/iar81c.html and you can download from down of page the oroginal plans of IAR 80 and IAR 81c |
| Posted by: Alex30cag February 14, 2011 02:58 pm |
| sorry the first link didn`t worck, trying this one: http://www.airwar.ru/enc/fww2/iar80.html |
| Posted by: Radub February 14, 2011 03:11 pm |
| You can safely ignore that website. Nothing new or exciting. The data is erroneous in many places. For example, is states that the IAR81-C was armed with 2x20mm cannons and 4x7.92 machine guns. Those are not "original drawings". They are drawings made by by Dan Iloiu in 1989 and printed in Modelism. HTH Radu |
| Posted by: Alex30cag February 14, 2011 03:30 pm |
| Yes now I looked at drawings and I saw that there are some mistakes. If you have another plans please contact me. Thanks! |
| Posted by: Alex30cag February 14, 2011 03:33 pm |
| and if that plans are better than they |
| Posted by: Radub February 14, 2011 03:36 pm |
Where did you see mistakes in the drawings? I am interested.  I was referring to the errors in the text. Radu |
| Posted by: Alex30cag February 15, 2011 03:58 pm |
| they are not text eros just missing some parts at the design |
| Posted by: Radub February 15, 2011 04:03 pm | ||
Can you please elaborate? Give us an example... Radu |
| Posted by: Alex30cag February 15, 2011 05:11 pm |
| when you download the pictures they are cut and you must put them togheder and and you can not paste perfectly because missing some parts from the picture |
| Posted by: Alex30cag February 15, 2011 05:21 pm |
| look at this: |
| Posted by: Alex30cag February 15, 2011 05:22 pm |
| here : |
| Posted by: Alex30cag February 15, 2011 05:23 pm |
| what? why i can-t paste the picture |
| Posted by: Radub February 15, 2011 06:30 pm | ||
That is because they are pirate copies. Bad pirate copies. Copies of copies. If you really cared, you could buy a good set of drawings from Modelism. Radu |
| Posted by: Alex30cag February 15, 2011 07:19 pm |
| yes and if you want build a modell you can wrong at the dimensions and other parts |
| Posted by: Alex30cag February 15, 2011 07:21 pm |
| i build a IAR 80 modell with that plans and it look like shit |