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Posted by: scorpio August 30, 2012 08:43 am
I have plan to make a Fi-156, I want to do it in Romanian colors. I want to ask if Nr.0, one reserved for Marshal, was painted in German camouflage?

Does anyone have an idea what is drawing the fuselage. I could hope for a higher resolution picture?

Florin
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Posted by: Dénes August 30, 2012 12:16 pm
QUOTE (scorpio @ August 30, 2012 02:43 pm)
I have plan to make a Fi-156, I want to do it in Romanian colors. I want to ask if Nr.0, one reserved for Marshal, was painted in German camouflage?[/IMG]

Where is this information coming from? Is there a photo of No. 0?

Gen. Dénes

Posted by: antoni August 30, 2012 04:57 pm
There is a photograph of personal aircraft of Marshal Antonescu in Fieseler Fi 156 Storch 1938 - 1945, Dariusz Karnas, Mushroom Model Publications, ISBN 978-83-61421-47-4. It is in standard Luftwaffe camouflage with German markings painted over in light green. Red 17 on the fin. D.Bernad collection.

The photograph above is captioned as Fi 156 C built in ICAR factory. Stratus Collection.

Posted by: scorpio August 30, 2012 05:46 pm
QUOTE (Dénes @ August 30, 2012 02:16 pm)
QUOTE (scorpio @ August 30, 2012 02:43 pm)
I have plan to make a Fi-156, I want to do it in Romanian colors. I want to ask if Nr.0, one reserved for Marshal, was painted in German camouflage?[/IMG]

Where is this information coming from? Is there a photo of No. 0?

Gen. Dénes

Modelism magazine:
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Posted by: Florin August 31, 2012 06:04 am
In the scan of "Modelism" magazine provided by "scorpio", there is a reminder that this type of plane helped to recover Mussolini from his arrest.
Little is known that for escape the Germans intended to use a real helicopter, but the helicopter got defective in the last moment, and "Plan B" was the Fieseler Fi-156 Storch.

Posted by: warunasanjaya2727 August 31, 2012 04:55 pm
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I have plan to make a Fi-156, I want to do it in Romanian colors. I want to ask if Nr.0, one reserved for Marshal, was painted in German camouflage?

Does anyone have an idea what is drawing the fuselage. I could hope for a higher resolution picture?

Florin

scorpio,I do not have idea for drawing fuselage. But I have some pictures and I will upload them.

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second image=http://www.rcthai.net/webboard/download/file.php?id=1355830

third image=http://www.rcthai.net/webboard/download/file.php?id=1353053
forth image=http://www.rcthai.net/webboard/download/file.php?id=1355831
It seems there are three images that can not be uploaded. scorpio,you have to copy the address, paste it to your browser's address bar and press go. I am very sorry for that.

Posted by: scorpio August 31, 2012 06:25 pm
QUOTE (warunasanjaya2727 @ August 31, 2012 06:55 pm)
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I have plan to make a Fi-156, I want to do it in Romanian colors. I want to ask if Nr.0, one reserved for Marshal, was painted in German camouflage?

Does anyone have an idea what is drawing the fuselage. I could hope for a higher resolution picture?

Florin

scorpio,I do not have idea for drawing fuselage. But I have some pictures and I will upload them.


I'm referring strictly to the drawing on the left side of the plane. Drawing that looks like a eagle.

Posted by: ionionescu August 31, 2012 08:44 pm
QUOTE (scorpio @ August 31, 2012 07:25 pm)
I'm referring strictly to the drawing on the left side of the plane. Drawing that looks like a eagle.


I think it is a winged bottle, in my opinion it resembles the emblem from the photo below, only the design is different. Photo source: Romanian Aeronautics in the Second World War 1941-1945 - Cristian Crăciunoiu, Jean-Louis Roba, Modelism, 2003, page 196.

http://postimage.org/

Posted by: Florin September 01, 2012 12:35 am
The engine of Fi-156 was a two-stroke engine - you know, that kind where the lubricant is mixed with gasoline and burnt together.

Posted by: dragos September 01, 2012 12:45 am
QUOTE (Florin @ September 01, 2012 02:35 am)
The engine of Fi-156 was a two-stroke engine - you know, that kind where the lubricant is mixed with gasoline and burnt together.

Trabant

Posted by: Florin September 01, 2012 03:33 am
QUOTE (dragos @ August 31, 2012 07:45 pm)
QUOTE (Florin @ September 01, 2012 02:35 am)
The engine of Fi-156 was a two-stroke engine - you know, that kind where the lubricant is mixed with gasoline and burnt together.

Trabant

I grew up in the "Trabant" era.
When I was young and student, one of my dreams was to build a very little airplane to cross Bulgaria from north to south (only 300 km / 200 miles) and land in Greece, a NATO member. I made countless drawings around this dream.
The Trabant engine was great for this job - air cooled, light weight, 28 HP.
It was available in store with 11000 lei - huge amount for those times.
The biggest problem in all this airplane matter was testing it somewhere - and there were good chances that someone could see me and report to Big Brother.
***
You don't have the "delation" problem today, but this is a hard task even in a free country.

P.S: A university colleague and friend told me that in Banat, the place of his grandparents, people found in a corn field an abandoned little airplane built around a Dacia 1300 engine ( water cooled, 52 HP , but at least twice heavier than a Trabant engine). With target less ambitious than mine (they only needed few kilometers to reach Yugoslavia), something went wrong and they did not make it.

Posted by: Radub September 01, 2012 04:15 am
QUOTE (Florin @ September 01, 2012 12:35 am)
The engine of Fi-156 was a two-stroke engine - you know, that kind where the lubricant is mixed with gasoline and burnt together.

The Argus As10 was most definitely NOT a two-stroke engine.
One is on display in the Military Museum.
Radu

Posted by: Florin September 01, 2012 05:29 am
QUOTE (Radub @ August 31, 2012 11:15 pm)
QUOTE (Florin @ September 01, 2012 12:35 am)
The engine of Fi-156 was a two-stroke engine - you know, that kind where the lubricant is mixed with gasoline and burnt together.

The Argus As10 was most definitely NOT a two-stroke engine.
One is on display in the Military Museum.
Radu

My source is a French book about French paratroopers in WWII, translated into Romanian: "Indraznetii Inving" / "The Daring Will Win"
OK, I got it - wrong source !!!
A list with aircraft two-stroke engines:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Two-stroke_aircraft_piston_engines

P.S: Which Military Museum ? smile.gif

Posted by: Radub September 01, 2012 06:00 am
QUOTE (Florin @ September 01, 2012 05:29 am)
P.S: Which Military Museum ? smile.gif

Muzeul Militar "Carol I" Bucuresti. smile.gif
It is an excellent museum.
Radu

Posted by: dragos September 02, 2012 07:42 pm
QUOTE (Radub @ September 01, 2012 08:00 am)
QUOTE (Florin @ September 01, 2012 05:29 am)
P.S: Which Military Museum ?  smile.gif

Muzeul Militar "Carol I" Bucuresti. smile.gif
It is an excellent museum.
Radu

"King Ferdinand I", the founder of the muzeum, not "Carol I" wink.gif

Posted by: Radub September 02, 2012 08:25 pm
QUOTE (dragos @ September 02, 2012 07:42 pm)

"King Ferdinand I", the founder of the muzeum, not "Carol I" wink.gif

You are right. wink.gif Apologies!
Radu

Posted by: scorpio October 08, 2012 12:32 pm
How credible are these profiles? The one with the yellow nose, I see no wings yellow tips and no number. I want to make a model in 1/32 scale, and I want to make one with German painting and Michael Cross.
Source of image: "Fieseler Fi 156 Storch 1938-1945" Yellow series No.6131


Florin


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Posted by: Dénes October 08, 2012 01:09 pm
The top one seems OK, but you should always go after a photograph, not coloured artwork (unless it is supported by a photo).

I am working now on a book project involving many high quality, detailed artwork, and I can tell you a picture gives you many details an average artwork does not reflect.

Gen. Dénes

Posted by: scorpio October 08, 2012 02:55 pm
I have a picture with no.17,


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Posted by: Victor October 11, 2012 08:15 am
Source for the image, please.

Posted by: scorpio October 11, 2012 11:09 am
I found this picture on the net.

Posted by: Victor October 14, 2012 12:59 pm
Then post the link to the website.

Posted by: scorpio October 14, 2012 05:49 pm
http://www.ww2aircraft.net/forum/aircraft-pictures/romanian-air-force-28582-4.html

post 49

Posted by: Antoniu October 30, 2012 10:03 am
Profilele color fiind deja publicate raul a fost facut, amandoua sunt incorecte.
In ordinul de aplicare a vopselei galbena pe capota motorului este specificat foarte clar "...capotele motoareleor ale avioanelor de vanatoare..."
Respectiv: Bf-109E, IAR-80, He-112, PZL-11 si 24.

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Both profiles are incorrect.
The regulations for painting the engine cowling in yellow applies to fighters only (Bf-109E, IAR-80, He-112, PZL-11 and 24)

Posted by: horia November 11, 2012 01:43 pm
Si bineinteles ca si la acest ordin au existat exceptii, avioane de turism, legatura sau bombardament au avut botul galben: Me-108 Taifun, Potez 25, Savoia...
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ARR being full of exceptions, of course other type of planes use to have yellow cowlings: Me-108 Taifun, Potez 25, Savoia... all this being non fighter planes.

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