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| Posted by: Dennisb May 22, 2009 09:30 am |
| Hello, Are there documents from Romanian Soldiers, like you had on the German side Wehrpassen/Soldbuchen etc. ?? Where could I find more information about Romanian documents during WWII? Is it hard to find Romanian documents? Thanks! |
| Posted by: Alexei2102 May 22, 2009 10:53 am |
| Hi Dennis, Yes, there are some Romanian IDs. some very similar to the German counterparts. some were even specific to a branch (I am speaking about ARR). I will get back with some details and scans tonight or tomorrow the latest. Al PS - Examples: - "livret militar" - "brevet personal navigant militar" |
| Posted by: Alexei2102 May 22, 2009 06:20 pm |
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| Posted by: Dénes May 22, 2009 09:01 pm |
| What word is deleted from the bottom document: "regale"? Gen. Dénes |
| Posted by: Alexei2102 May 23, 2009 02:09 am | ||
Yes, Denes, some kind of a "denazification"... |
| Posted by: Dennisb May 23, 2009 05:37 pm |
Thanks!  Are such a Romanian documents hard to get? Where can you find them? Thanks! |
| Posted by: Alexei2102 May 23, 2009 06:47 pm |
| ARR military documents are hard to come by. ARR civil documents are even rarer. As per the usual grunt's "livret", you can find one pretty easy. I will post some scans of one example tomorrow. Al |
| Posted by: MMM May 23, 2009 08:12 pm |
| "Hard to get" refers probably to the collectable items! Otherwise, the archives are open to the interested public - be it the Romanian Military Archives in Piteşti, be it the Ministry of National Defense in Bucharest. The only condition is for the documents to be older than 50 years... |
| Posted by: Dénes May 24, 2009 08:23 am |
| It's not that simple. You have to explain first why are you asking access to the archives and what project are you working on. Then 'the competent person' grants you access... or not. Gen. Dénes |
| Posted by: Dennisb May 24, 2009 01:41 pm | ||
First of all, thanks everybody for the input! What is ARR standing for? Where can you find these 'livret' ID cards? Are there sites like Ebay where they are offered? Thanks! |
| Posted by: MMM May 24, 2009 02:17 pm |
| And, Denes, that isn't simple?!?! I'm not familiar with anyone being rejected! I told them at Pitesti I was studying for my master - and they didn't ask my for my academic credentials; they only wanted the ID, because it's a military unit  There is no problem with getting there; only the regulations at each "site" must be respected (no photos, no phones etc.)!ARR stands for "Armata Regală Română", aka Royal Romanian Army. About the "livret" stuff, I don't know - I'm not interested. Probably one could find such things at older people - veterans or like that, but I have doubts if they'll be "for sale". |
| Posted by: Alexei2102 May 24, 2009 08:07 pm | ||
Completely true. |
| Posted by: Alexei2102 May 24, 2009 08:16 pm | ||
ARR stands for AERONAUTICA REGALA ROMANA - Romanian Royal Airforce - in my book. ARR documents are very hard to come by. In my collecting days, I have only seen three examples, and two I bought. For some reason, these are very seldom to be encountered. You can always find good examples of regular Army "livret" ID cards at fleamarkets, but usually it will be the Communist era "livret". The Royal era pieces are a bit harder to come by, but they are attainable also. @ Dennis, if you want to have one "livret" for a regular Royal Romanian Army grunt, with no fancy awards and stuff like that, PM me, we can work something out. @ MMM - if you want to research something very exactly specified, for an academic research, things are easier, and you are also right on the "military regime" style of PR on the archive guys - rules are rules. But from the collector point of view, trying to research a very specific person, it is another matter. My very best, Al |
| Posted by: MMM May 25, 2009 12:01 pm | ||
Wow! Sorry about the ARR confusion, but on this forum I've usually met the RoAF abbreviation for Romanian Air Forces...
This is a little unclear. If you do tell them "military archive guys" that you want to research a specific person, do you think they won't let you? You can always push in the scientific reason... To tell you the truth, I always took for granted the archive access even from college days (History) and that also helped (confidence  ) when talking to the archivists. One can always give it a try... |
| Posted by: Alexei2102 May 25, 2009 06:03 pm |
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| Posted by: C-2 May 25, 2009 07:51 pm |
| http://www.worldwar2.ro/forum/index.php?showtopic=4008&st=0 Look below. |
| Posted by: Alexei2102 May 25, 2009 08:16 pm |
WOW...  |
| Posted by: C-2 May 26, 2009 09:51 am |
| What? |
| Posted by: Alexei2102 May 26, 2009 10:05 am | ||
Nothing, I just love your "brevet". I must look for one myself. Cheers, Al |
| Posted by: C-2 May 26, 2009 12:10 pm |
Al you need is some very old relatives who lived in the same house for more then 70 years.  Then,to start serching. |
| Posted by: SaBype August 25, 2009 03:00 am |
| im looking for someone to translate documents and assignments from romanian into english. per page rates offered. if you are interested or have any questions, please PM me |