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Posted by: Carol I April 08, 2006 06:28 pm |
The discussion on various threads about hallmarks on orders gave me the idea of a dedicated topic for the identification of hallmarks found on Romanian orders. I will start with the image of a hallmark from a type I Commander's cross of the Order of the Crown of Romania. It's (unfortunately) the best I could obtain with my camera. As further information, there are two other hallmarks on the badge: "AF" and "A". On the Austrian-made badges, the "A" mark indicates a Viennese manufacturer. |
Posted by: aviatiadasenzatia April 24, 2006 04:23 am |
Are you sure , that the A letter indicates a manufacturer from Vienna ?? This rule is for coins , as far as I know . Can you indicate the source of this information ? Regards. |
Posted by: Carol I April 24, 2006 09:12 am | ||
I have seen this piece of information in the description of various silver objects, something like: "... hallmarked "A" for Vienna". |
Posted by: Carol I May 04, 2006 07:50 pm | ||||
950% silver? According to http://www.antikrom.home.ro/Marci%20aplicate.html there is a letter in the hallmark. Does anyone know what it is supposed to mean? Which letters are on your marks? |
Posted by: Cuza May 06, 2006 02:37 pm | ||
Marks below-knight and officer are Weiss, commander Resch, GO unknown. Only "letter" under the crowns appears to be "I"-hard to see, but not an "A". http://imageshack.us |
Posted by: Carol I May 06, 2006 07:34 pm | ||
I'd rather say it is an "L". What about the other marks, "IK", "HW", "IW"? Are they maker's marks? |
Posted by: Carol I May 06, 2006 07:44 pm |
The "AF" and "A" marks on the http://www.worldwar2.ro/forum/index.php?showtopic=3147&view=findpost&p=48901 |
Posted by: Cuza May 06, 2006 09:44 pm | ||
The IK is actually "IR"-Resch. The "HW" is Heinrich Weiss. The "IW" is a mystery-I do not recall seeing it on other Weiss pieces. |
Posted by: Carol I May 07, 2006 12:21 am |
Who used the "BW" mark? |
Posted by: Ahile May 07, 2006 05:24 am |
ARG, IR, JRF-Resch CFZ - Zimmermann NM - National Mint Romania RS - Souval HW, BW - Weiss Image of a Swan - believed to be Kretley. |
Posted by: Carol I May 07, 2006 07:52 am | ||
When you simply copy/paste information found elsewhere, it is fair to indicate the source. In your case this is http://www.marksmedals.com/romanian_medals_files/order_of_the_star.html from Mark Piersall's site on Orders, Decorations and Medals. |
Posted by: Carol I May 07, 2006 08:03 am |
"SILBER", "CFZ" and "MN" marks on a Commander's cross of the Order of the Star of Romania Originally http://www.worldwar2.ro/forum/index.php?showtopic=1545&view=findpost&p=19507 by b737 Does anyone know what is the meaning of the other marks? I suppose one of them is the manufacturing year (1941). If this is true, what about "610"? Was it a serial number? |
Posted by: Carol I May 07, 2006 08:20 am |
Regarding the Weiss marks, if "HW" stands for Heinrich Weiss, what does "BW" stand for? Is it a mystery mark like the "IW" on Cuza's Romanian Eagle decoration? |
Posted by: aviatiadasenzatia May 07, 2006 11:19 am | ||||
I found on a silver object , the same hallmark : http://imageshack.us |
Posted by: Carol I May 07, 2006 11:28 am | ||||
Yours might be a Finish marking.
Source: http://www.modernsilver.com/basichallmarks.htm |
Posted by: Cuza May 07, 2006 02:07 pm | ||
From my memory "BW" translates in Romanian to Bijutier Weiss. That is not an exact translation, but the "B" has something to do with jeweler or insignia manufacturer. Sorry, but my Romanian is not that good, but BW is a Weiss mark. |
Posted by: Carol I May 07, 2006 02:44 pm | ||||
Thanks for explaining the "BW" mark. Jeweller is indeed Bijutier in Romanian. |
Posted by: dragos03 June 24, 2006 12:25 am |
I found on a French site some of the hallmarks used by jewellers that manufactured Romanian awards: - Artus Bertrand - a gear wheel surmounted by a star - Lemaitre - a mitre, a grenade with 4 flames |
Posted by: dragos03 June 26, 2006 02:46 pm |
Lemaitre hallmarks: http://imageshack.us |
Posted by: Carol I June 26, 2006 03:06 pm | ||
The bottom one looks like the mark of the Paris Assay Office (a boar head according to http://www.modernsilver.com/basichallmarks.htm). |
Posted by: Iver August 06, 2008 08:55 pm |
The "A" on austrian-made badges means Main Mint office Wien (hauptmunzamt Wien) |