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Posted by: Francesco May 17, 2006 09:12 pm
Hello guys,
here an infantery Waffen SS visor cap from my collection.

Hope you can fint it interesting.

All the best,
Francesco
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Posted by: Cata92 May 18, 2006 04:33 pm
veri nice Francesco very nice .. were did you got it from? and how much did it cost you? laugh.gif it looks great

Posted by: Francesco May 18, 2006 06:47 pm
QUOTE (Cata92 @ May 18 2006, 04:33 PM)
veri nice Francesco very nice .. were did you got it from? and how much did it cost you? laugh.gif  it looks great

Thanks Cata,I find it several years ago in a old Italian collection and .... no cost cool.gif just a trade with a Bandenkampfabzeichen!

Posted by: Cata92 May 19, 2006 05:16 pm
a vey good trade, indeed a very good trade laugh.gif

Posted by: Alexei2102 May 19, 2006 08:51 pm
QUOTE (Francesco @ May 18 2006, 06:47 PM)
QUOTE (Cata92 @ May 18 2006, 04:33 PM)
veri nice Francesco very nice .. were did you got it from? and how much did it cost you? laugh.gif  it looks great

Thanks Cata,I find it several years ago in a old Italian collection and .... no cost cool.gif just a trade with a Bandenkampfabzeichen!

A good trade indeed. What kind of Bandenkampfabzeichen was ? Bonz, Silver or Gold version ?

Posted by: Francesco May 19, 2006 09:17 pm
QUOTE (Alexei2102 @ May 19 2006, 08:51 PM)
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A good trade indeed. What kind of Bandenkampfabzeichen was ? Bonz, Silver or Gold version ?

A Bandendemkampfabzeichen in silver.

Posted by: Claudiu1988 May 19, 2006 10:25 pm
What is a Bandendemkampfabzeichen ?

Posted by: Francesco May 19, 2006 10:35 pm
Is the anti partisan badge !

Posted by: Alexei2102 May 20, 2006 05:27 am
QUOTE (Francesco @ May 19 2006, 09:17 PM)
[QUOTE=Alexei2102,May 19 2006, 08:51 PM] [/QUOTE]
A good trade indeed. What kind of Bandenkampfabzeichen was ? Bonz, Silver or Gold version ? [/QUOTE]
A Bandendemkampfabzeichen in silver.

Very nice. And the APB in Silber came with the award doc as well ? I ask this because these are among the rarest of them all. But the rarest is the APB in Gold. I once saw one at Detlev's being bought for EUR 5,000 in a matter of hours.

Posted by: Francesco May 20, 2006 08:15 am
The BandenKA came without the award doc, and yes,I remember the one at Detlev's site ......a nice and rare one.

Posted by: Claudiu1988 May 20, 2006 11:11 am
QUOTE (Francesco @ May 19 2006, 10:35 PM)
Is the anti partisan badge !

Thanks Francesco.

Posted by: Claudiu1988 May 20, 2006 11:19 am
I found some pictures with the badge here they are.

Above is Partisan Badge in Silver

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Source: www.wehrmacht-awards.com

Posted by: Claudiu1988 May 20, 2006 11:20 am
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Posted by: Alexei2102 May 21, 2006 01:49 pm
Please check this. This is indeed a good price for an APB in Silber:

http://www.wehrmacht-awards.com/forums/showthread.php?t=157646

IMHO: it will sell in a matter of days.

Posted by: Francesco May 21, 2006 02:50 pm
QUOTE (Alexei2102 @ May 21 2006, 01:49 PM)
Please check this. This is indeed a good price for an APB in Silber:

http://www.wehrmacht-awards.com/forums/showthread.php?t=157646

IMHO: it will sell in a matter of days.

I agree with you Alexei ! a nice example for a goog price.
Here another stunning APB http://www.worldwar.it/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=821

Posted by: Alexei2102 May 21, 2006 05:21 pm
Very nice example of the Bronze variant of APB. Have you checked the WA article on APB ? It has a nice photo of an Italian Partisan marching alongside a German POW who is a recipient of APB. I pity his fate, as the APB recipients were usually shot.

PS - I wonder how many of the 47 APB in gold survived the war. I personally know of 5 examples.

Posted by: Francesco May 21, 2006 05:48 pm
QUOTE (Alexei2102 @ May 21 2006, 05:21 PM)
Very nice example of the Bronze variant of APB. Have you checked the WA article on APB ? It has a nice photo of an Italian Partisan marching alongside a German POW who is a recipient of APB. I pity his fate, as the APB recipients were usually shot.

PS - I wonder how many of the 47 APB in gold survived the war. I personally know of 5 examples.

WOW...is wry hard tell where they are or how may are survived.I know only one in an Italian collection.The problem is:are these original??The APB are very well remade with the original WW2 stamps.

Yes ,I know the photo on the WA Forum.

Posted by: Claudiu1988 May 21, 2006 05:53 pm
Can you post the picture?

Posted by: Francesco May 21, 2006 06:04 pm
QUOTE (Claudiu1988 @ May 21 2006, 05:53 PM)
Can you post the picture?

Are you talking abouth the Italian parisan pic ?

Posted by: Claudiu1988 May 21, 2006 06:10 pm
Yes the italian partisan with german pow

Posted by: Alexei2102 May 21, 2006 07:15 pm
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Posted by: Claudiu1988 May 21, 2006 07:24 pm
Thanks for the picture biggrin.gif

Posted by: Alexei2102 May 21, 2006 07:57 pm
QUOTE (Francesco @ May 21 2006, 05:48 PM)
QUOTE (Alexei2102 @ May 21 2006, 05:21 PM)
Very nice example of the Bronze variant of APB. Have you checked the WA article on APB ? It has a nice photo of an Italian Partisan marching alongside a German POW who is a recipient of APB. I pity his fate, as the APB recipients were usually shot.

PS -  I wonder how many of the 47 APB in gold survived the war. I personally know of 5 examples.

WOW...is wry hard tell where they are or how may are survived.I know only one in an Italian collection.The problem is:are these original??The APB are very well remade with the original WW2 stamps.

Yes ,I know the photo on the WA Forum.

Francesco, all the 5 examples that I know of are in USA collections. With your Italian one, there are 6 APBs in Gold. Wonder what happened to the 41 left.....

Posted by: Francesco May 21, 2006 09:19 pm
QUOTE (Alexei2102 @ May 21 2006, 07:57 PM)
Wonder what happened to the 41 left.....

Alexei,do you have the book "Das Bandenkampfabzeichen" by Rolf Michaelis?

Is a little book dedicated to this abzeichen.There are some APB in gold pictures.Unfortunately there is not the name of the owners.

Maybe we can try to open a thread on the WA Forut to have some informations!??!

Posted by: New Connaught Ranger May 24, 2006 09:02 am
QUOTE (Alexei2102 @ May 21 2006, 07:15 PM)
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Hallo Gentlemen, biggrin.gif

Very Nice Picture from the Italian Campaign.

BUT

I would say from the look of this picture the Germans (both blindfolded and being guided) are being escorted through the front lines, by British? soldiers to have a conference under a flag of truce, it was normal to blindfold the enemy when they were in your area, so they did not register the location where your machine-gun, mortars and infantry were, as when they returned to their own side the information could be passed on to the artillery or used to plan an attack.
If prisoners of War why bother to blindfold them??

The first german soldier is also carrying a nice pair of binoculars and has his holster on the belt left-side waist, and if a prisoner the first thing would have been to remove the holster & gun, and the insignia for souviners.

The soldiers escorting them all appear to be wearing British style berets and might be a British Paratroopers as the one in the leftside of the picture with a white flag has what looks like a para badge on the beret!!

Kevin A. Ryan in Deva. biggrin.gif

Posted by: Alexei2102 May 27, 2006 05:17 pm
Finally a pic of an unissued APB in Gold with Diamonds. Credits: Axis History Forum (Andre Huesken Collection).

Hope you like it.

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