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Posted by: rixard March 31, 2012 06:39 pm

Hello! Tell me what kind of ampulla was found in the leather case, along with other tools for the machine gun ZB 30. What's the white substance in a little cup? Thanks in advance.

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/850/ampula1.jpg/

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/805/ampula.jpg

Posted by: Hadrian April 01, 2012 01:24 pm

I think it should be grease for maintenance.

Posted by: rixard April 01, 2012 01:35 pm

Thank you for your reply! I also think that it is for cleaning weapons - but it included a set of maintenance?

Posted by: C-2 April 01, 2012 02:11 pm

Very starnge to put some maintaines matrial into an amplula.
It breaks easily and it can also cause cuts.

Posted by: Hadrian April 01, 2012 02:13 pm

Automatic weapons are very maintenance intensive weapons. Normally they should be cleaned and oiled every time they are fired, and periodically even if not used.
Every new weapon is delivered from depot normaly with a cleaning kit included.

Here an example of what a cleaning kit (aftermarket) for AK 47 contains.
http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/AKS036-1.html

The Ampoule should also contain some cleaning/lubricated fluid. When you issue these things by millions, costs are important. Probably the ampoule was anyway originally packed in a cardboard of some kind, and kept in the leather case, so not so risky to break and cut, though it will stain the gunner`s uniform if it leaks...

Posted by: C-2 April 01, 2012 04:04 pm

I'm aware of the written above,but never heard of an ampula in a cleaning kit.
Very dificult to apply the substance also.
Maybee NCR can put some light .

Posted by: Ferdinand April 01, 2012 05:29 pm

is not a morphine dose?

Posted by: C-2 April 01, 2012 05:48 pm

Hahahaha
It wouldn't be so clear after so many years!

Posted by: Ferdinand April 01, 2012 06:21 pm

QUOTE (C-2 @ April 01, 2012 05:48 pm)

Hahahaha
It wouldn't be so clear after so many years!

I just spoke now with a doctor and also collector and confimed me that the glass dose is for antibiotic. The glass dose contains the antibiotic(white powder) and the solvent(tranparent liquid).
Oil kit were made from steel not glass...consider that the machine gun servant had to crowl...

Posted by: rixard April 01, 2012 06:55 pm

Yes, we can assume that in the ampoule anesthetic (Novocain) or saline - in an amount not less than 20 ml to dissolve the powder is in an open cup. The form of the cup perfectly coincides with the tip of the ampoule (as she was found with the powder in a glass ampoule). I do not think that the powder is an antibiotic - antibiotics were used only to active 1944-45 year.
I know that is a gunner set of metal container with oil.

Posted by: 21 inf April 02, 2012 06:50 am

The fashion the ampoule is closed at one end (the long and tipped one) is specifical to medicine. The seal is made with fire to preserve the content sterile. I am doctor and in laboratories we used to seal testtubes and ampoules in this manner. What is inside I dont know. I dont know if it's antibiotic or antigas stuff or something else. Anyway, what is inside could be dangerous after so many years and a rule in medicine is that if dont know what is inside, you dont play with it!!! Take care!!!

Posted by: Cristian April 12, 2012 03:35 pm

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/85/11850898.jpg/

If these materials belong to the same kit, is clearely a medical kit

Posted by: rixard April 13, 2012 06:42 pm

This vial was found in a leather briefcase machine gunner, dressing packs found in the medicine chest - first aid kit was a metal box, which is almost completely destroyed, with the bandages, you see, in surprisingly good condition!
I looked like vials of medicine, but to no avail ......