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Posted by: Antoniu October 17, 2014 02:04 pm
ILUSTRATED HISTORY OF ROMANIAN AERONAUTICS 1909-1948
Limited edition, bilingual.
Content: 268 pages, 434 Photo Black and White.
Annex 1: Alphabetical Index.
Annex 2: Glossary of Romanian Terms Used in the English Text.
Annex 3: Manufactures' serial nimbers and registrationsof aircraft in service identified thus far.
The book can be purchased from the author.
rdantoniu@gmail.com

Posted by: Radub October 17, 2014 02:50 pm
Here is a photo of the cover:

user posted image

Radu

Posted by: Mihai Popteanu October 17, 2014 07:25 pm
QUOTE (Antoniu @ October 17, 2014 02:04 pm)
ILUSTRATED HISTORY OF ROMANIAN AERONAUTICS 1909-1948
Limited edition, bilingual.
Content: 268 pages, 434 Photo Black and White.
Annex 1: Alphabetical Index.
Annex 2: Glossary of Romanian Terms Used in the English Text.
Annex 3: Manufactures' serial nimbers and registrationsof aircraft in service identified thus far.
The book can be purchased from the author.
rdantoniu@gmail.com

A price please ?

Posted by: Antoniu October 18, 2014 04:34 am
80 lei

Posted by: Vranceanu October 18, 2014 04:10 pm
The cover photo is the same which was used on Profir's book, "Singur pe cerul stalingradului". I don't think it is a good idea, it makes confusion.

What publishing house ?

The book is available in any bookshop ?

Posted by: MaxFax October 18, 2014 09:56 pm
QUOTE (Vranceanu @ October 18, 2014 06:10 pm)
The book is available in any bookshop ?

QUOTE
The book can be purchased from the author.
rdantoniu@gmail.com

Posted by: Vranceanu October 18, 2014 11:55 pm
Great ! smile.gif

Posted by: Antoniu October 19, 2014 05:46 am
The photo comes from a dia by Lt. Tulea Sorin and that I have been gifted with copyrights transferred to me. Who used the photo on the cover of Profir made ​​a crime, do not bother me much different quality.
The book is a volume of research back in civil and military archives, only those who have done research in archives can appreciate.It is a book author conducted and funded by me, editing, cover, Radu Branzan English translation. No longer need a publishing house.

Posted by: Antoniu October 19, 2014 05:58 am
A surprise is Cover 4, contains a mosaic of color photos of WW2, by aviators and are in my possession, there are many. I'll post on other future covers.

Posted by: Vranceanu October 19, 2014 06:49 am
QUOTE (Antoniu @ October 19, 2014 05:46 am)
The photo comes from a dia by Lt. Tulea Sorin and that I have been gifted with copyrights transferred to me. Who used the photo on the cover of Profir made ​​a crime


Did Sorin Tulea transfered to you his copyrights, in a official manner, legaly ? With legal documents ?
I ask this because his photos are very known and for example the colour photos with IAR 80 are everywhere (often, without mention even the author, Sorin Tulea)

I found for example some photos of Sorin Tulea published in "Aripi romanesti" during the war, with the mention "Photo Sorin Tulea / SMP" - in this case I think is clearily public domain.

Posted by: Vranceanu October 19, 2014 06:55 am
QUOTE (Antoniu @ October 19, 2014 05:46 am)
No longer need a publishing house.

But the book has a ISBN ?

Posted by: horia October 19, 2014 07:07 am
ISBN for....? ISBN don't make a book more interesting. Malleus Maleficarum did not have ISBN but still is one of the most wanted book in the world.

Posted by: Radub October 19, 2014 07:52 am
The "same photo on two covers" can only confuse the illiterate or small children. People who can read will simply and effortlessly see the difference. Anyway, they say "never judge a book by its cover". wink.gif
Radu

Posted by: Fratello October 19, 2014 09:36 am
The book ISBN is: 978-973-0-17209-6. Are you satisfied, DF?
I got the book and It's a great work. Congratulations to the author!

Posted by: Radub October 19, 2014 11:33 am
QUOTE (Fratello @ October 19, 2014 09:36 am)
Are you satisfied, DF?                         

Is "Vranceanu" the same person as "Daniel Focsa"? huh.gif
How does that tally with point 9 of the http://www.worldwar2.ro/forum/index.php?act=boardrules?

Posted by: Fratello October 19, 2014 12:02 pm
QUOTE (Radub @ October 19, 2014 11:33 am)
QUOTE (Fratello @ October 19, 2014 09:36 am)
Are you satisfied, DF?                         

Is "Vranceanu" the same person as "Daniel Focsa"? huh.gif
How does that tally with point 9 of the http://www.worldwar2.ro/forum/index.php?act=boardrules?


Yes, Daniel Focsa is using also "Vranceanu", that is name of his grandftaher.

Posted by: Antoniu October 19, 2014 01:18 pm
It deviated from the subject for the sake of childish questions without sense and substance, if they accept those asking questions on the subject of the book, on the volume of work that was needed.
It was hard work, has been researching a huge volume of documents, was a job for two years. Who studied the documents in the archives know what I mean, for some are matters paranormal.
If necessary I can answer questions related to the subject of the book relevant.

Posted by: Radub October 19, 2014 01:41 pm
You have nothing to worry about. Those who really care about Romanian aviation will love it. Jealous people will "split hairs" no matter what, but that is not a reflection on your work.
Radu

Posted by: MaxFax October 20, 2014 05:09 am
QUOTE (Radub @ October 19, 2014 01:33 pm)
QUOTE (Fratello @ October 19, 2014 09:36 am)
Are you satisfied, DF?                         

Is "Vranceanu" the same person as "Daniel Focsa"? huh.gif
How does that tally with point 9 of the http://www.worldwar2.ro/forum/index.php?act=boardrules?

Multiple personality ?! wink.gif

Posted by: Alexei2102 October 20, 2014 06:37 am
Ja, ja, Der Fuhrer has spoken, everyone must obey!!!

Posted by: Cantacuzino October 20, 2014 07:51 am
[/QUOTE]The cover photo is the same which was used on Profir's book, "Singur pe cerul stalingradului". [QUOTE]


On the cover of the book is a He 111 H6 used by 78sq for Black Sea missions .
Profir flew He 111 H 3 in the Stalingrad sky.
So the cover with a H6 for his memories book was not a good choice.




Congrats the author for the new book.
Good ideea that was translated in English and wish many copies will be sell worldwide. smile.gif

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Posted by: Vranceanu October 20, 2014 11:10 am
I am glad for being attacked personnaly, I only asked some normal questions.

1) What is the publishing house ? - no Publishing house - OK, congratulations.

2) What are the bookshops which sells this book ? - No bookshops - Ok, congratulations.

3) If Sorin Tulea gifted to Mr Antoniu the copyrights on his photos, with legal documents - No answer. - This was important for every resercher who for example wants to use some Tules's photo. Don't you think ?

4) I asked if the book has a ISBN - Fratello gived me the ISBN, very fine, thank you !

About the photo cover, it was only a personal point of vue, as I have worked 10 years in few important publishing houses and I know it is not prefered, by commercial reasons, to use the same photo for two different books, but this was the author's choice.

I never said anything bad about the book, I didn't criticised it because I don't have read it. I only asked for some technical informations, that's all. Why so mmuch agressivity ? Mr Antoniu is the author and he may answer the questions on his book, or he may not, that's all.

Posted by: Radub October 20, 2014 01:30 pm
"Books on Romanian aviation" are a tiny niche in a small corner of a dwindling market.
We need to support all the people who invest their own time, effort and money in promoting Romanian aviation.
Radu

Posted by: Daniel Focsa October 20, 2014 03:41 pm
QUOTE (Radub @ October 20, 2014 01:30 pm)
"Books on Romanian aviation" are a tiny niche in a small corner of a dwindling market.
We need to support all the people who invest their own time, effort and money in promoting Romanian aviation.
Radu

Yes, but I didn't noticed any support concerning my books. Au contraire, I was attacked since 2008, since my very first book.

Posted by: Radub October 20, 2014 03:53 pm
QUOTE (Daniel Focsa @ October 20, 2014 03:41 pm)

Yes, but I didn't noticed any support concerning my books.

Your books are your books and they are judged on their own merits. Same applies to everyone else.
Radu

Posted by: Daniel Focsa October 20, 2014 04:00 pm
Ok, so I am free to say that a book must have an editor (publishing house) and be found in bookshops, that's why publishing houses and bookshops were invented for. I don't discuss the book's value, quality, information, I discuss the manner of publish and distribution here.

Posted by: Radub October 20, 2014 05:56 pm
QUOTE (Daniel Focsa @ October 20, 2014 04:00 pm)
Ok, so I am free to say that a book must have an editor (publishing house) and be found in bookshops, that's why publishing houses and bookshops were invented for. I don't discuss the book's value, quality, information, I discuss the manner of publish and distribution here.

Those "questions" were asked by Vranceanu. You just confirmed that you have two accounts.
This thread is not about you. Please open a separate thread to air your grievances.
Radu

Posted by: Daniel Focsa October 20, 2014 06:59 pm
QUOTE (Radub @ October 20, 2014 05:56 pm)
QUOTE (Daniel Focsa @ October 20, 2014 04:00 pm)
Ok, so I am free to say that a book must have an editor (publishing house) and be found in bookshops, that's why publishing houses and bookshops were invented for. I don't discuss the book's value, quality, information, I discuss the manner of publish and distribution here.

Those "questions" were asked by Vranceanu. You just confirmed that you have two accounts.
This thread is not about you. Please open a separate thread to air your grievances.
Radu

Radu B:

Yes I have two acounts, with the permission of the admin. If this is not ok, he may block "vranceanu".

I do not understand if you are the official or unofficial defender of the author of this book. I didn't talk about me. I have asked some questions about his book, he may answer or not, I don't need answers from you and I don't need your permission to tell my opinion on Mr Antoniu's book.

Posted by: Radub October 20, 2014 07:22 pm
Your questions were answered.
The complaint that you do not get "support" is a separate matter and does not belong here.
This book is great and deserves support. Buy the book and you will understand what I mean.
Radu

Posted by: Daniel Focsa October 20, 2014 08:38 pm
I had no complaint. You said "We need to support all the people who invest their own time, effort and money in promoting Romanian aviation" - and I simply answered I didn't notice any support for what I do.

If you made the translation of english version, this means you are involved in this project, so I don't know how objective you can be in this problem. I expect to hear that it is a great book, from cronicles, historians, journalists, not from the translator. wink.gif

Posted by: Radub October 20, 2014 09:09 pm
QUOTE (Daniel Focsa @ October 20, 2014 08:38 pm)
and I simply answered I didn't notice any support for what I do.

And then you wonder why you get no support. wink.gif You are doing yourself no favours here.
Radu

Posted by: MaxFax October 21, 2014 05:51 am
QUOTE
Yes I have two acounts, with the permission of the admin.

Really ?! So this seems for you perfectly normal, but you have objections that Mr. Antoniu has the permission to express himself in Romanian language once in a while ?!

QUOTE
I expect to hear that it is a great book, from cronicles, historians, journalists, not from the translator.  wink.gif

Indeed a very mature attitude, !!! Recently you was criticizing also Mr. Marandiuc ...
It's clear to see that you're in fact just malicious and envious ... my advise for you is to work and write books instead of consuming your energy in bad karma ...

Posted by: Cantacuzino October 21, 2014 07:25 am
QUOTE
I expect to hear that it is a great book, from cronicles, historians, journalists, not from the translator.


You can be in the same time translator, writer and historian. wink.gif

Correct translation is hard to get ( specially with technical terms) wink.gif

Posted by: MaxFax October 21, 2014 05:49 pm
Got today my copy. Really excellent book !!
Just for the record, the book's weight is 1,350 kg. wink.gif
On page 2, on top, between other info about the book: Photo He-111 cover 1 - Cdor. aviator Sorin TULEA

Posted by: Florin October 22, 2014 04:42 am
QUOTE (horia @ October 19, 2014 02:07 am)
ISBN for....? ISBN don't make a book more interesting. Malleus Maleficarum did not have ISBN but still is one of the most wanted book in the world.

Famous ? Yes.
Influential ? Maybe, but long time ago.
But "still is one of the most wanted book in the world" ?

Any book from late 1400's or from 1500's is wanted, because there are so few left, thus they are wanted in collections. But other than rarity or age, I don't see any other reason for "Malleus Maleficarum" to still be "one of the most wanted book in the world".

Posted by: Florin October 22, 2014 04:48 am
QUOTE (MaxFax @ October 21, 2014 12:49 pm)
...
Just for the record, the book's weight is 1,350 kg.  wink.gif
...

OK.
Now next step is to buy an arm balance weight measuring device and start using the book.

Posted by: Antoniu October 22, 2014 05:35 am
These discussions are sterile and not important, it is not mandatory to be a publisher, are able to replace publisher, tehnoredatcare and cover. No one played a better book than the author.
At that causes these discussions, the lack of concern, must know that most technical books call aviation books, so you need to master the material. These books should be appreciated by those who know the technical part of exomplu not confuse a He-111H6 with a He-111H3.
I ask this person if he wants credit for his rule books to open a topic and will be "Magna cum laude". Questions I consider absolutely unimportant, there are no rules, as the author sees those rows to edit a book. The book has been known Romanian Aeronautical Constructions 3 editions is required and was not present in bookstores question "So what?".

Posted by: Antoniu October 30, 2014 05:44 am
Daniel Focsa, you are not able to judge my desire to put what they want on the cover, this book also is not required to be published by a publishing house - is a book author, you heard this statement?
Looking for reasons to rummages through ... to criticize, to give your opinion, you I pray for you. I'm not interested in your fantasies.
Have you noticed that 2/3 of the topic is covered in the discussions arising Free to you?
I entered the topic in any of your books? Do not! Then please do the same!

Posted by: Radub November 12, 2014 06:51 pm
I had a few copies of this book at my stand in Telford last week-end. They sold out in before lunch-time on the first day. Anyone who picked it up and leafed through it never put it down and paid right up.
Radu

Posted by: lancer21 November 23, 2014 08:47 pm
Just a question if i may, to the author or the gentlemen who are lucky to have this book in their hands. Does it contain new photographs of rare aircraft (in pictures or available details) like IAR early prototypes (IAR-15, 16, 24 etc.) or especially IAR-47? I'm fortunate to have Romanian Aeronautical Constructions, but wondering if new pictures emerged meanwhile? Also are there pictures and details of more obscure (in ARR) interwar aircraft that apparently ARR did had in service like NiD-72, LGL-32, D-27 etc.? I am sure it's a fantastic work, i really hope i can have it in my hands sometime soon, meanwhile i'm just trying to temper one's expected excitement and anticipation. Thank you.

Posted by: Daniel Focsa November 25, 2014 12:12 am
QUOTE (MaxFax @ October 21, 2014 05:49 pm)

Just for the record, the book's weight is 1,350 kg.

Oh, so this is a great book ! With some little effort, the next will weight 2 kg maybe

Posted by: Daniel Focsa November 25, 2014 12:22 am
QUOTE (Antoniu @ October 30, 2014 05:44 am)
Daniel Focsa, you are not able to judge my desire to put what they want on the cover, this book also is not required to be published by a publishing house - is a book author, you heard this statement?
Looking for reasons to rummages through ... to criticize, to give your opinion, you I pray for you. I'm not interested in your fantasies.
Have you noticed that 2/3 of the topic is covered in the discussions arising Free to you?
I entered the topic in any of your books? Do not! Then please do the same!

I am a member of this forum and I may say my opinion, as everybody.

About the cover, I only remarked it was the same photo of Profir book, but you are free to use any photo you want.
Also you are free to publish your books without publishing house, without bookshops, etc. As I worked 10 years in publishing houses like an editor, I think I know this problem from inside and I know what means publishing a book, not only like an author, but also like an editor (and evan like a translator).

Posted by: Radub November 25, 2014 08:41 am
QUOTE (Daniel Focsa @ November 25, 2014 12:22 am)

I am a member of this forum and I may say my opinion, as everybody.


Having "a right" to an opinion does not automatically mean the opinion expressed is "right".
Radu

Posted by: lancer21 December 16, 2014 08:01 pm
Received it today, hooray! Certainly worth every penny, there are new pictures of aircraft i asked about like IAR-15 and SET-XV (good looking aircraft isn't it?), and considering these days it happened that i was looking for info about ARR interwar period aircraft, this book has it ALL right there, pictures and details, sufficient to vastly expand the knowledge about this particular period in ARR and indeed civil aviation history. I probably got most of the answers that i was seeking help with here recently. Could also say no less than 90% or more of the pictures in the book are completely new to me, but i have a few other recent ARR works, that's why i know the other 10%. The english translation is also much better compared to say Romanian Aeronautical Constructions.

So in conclusion, congratulations to mr. Antoniu and his many collaborators for another milestone work helping to shed light on ARR and romanian aviation history, and to Radub for his very good translation work. Any ARR buffs outthere need this book. rolleyes.gif

Posted by: Antoniu January 06, 2015 03:39 pm
Lancer 21 all avionele you mentioned are included in the book except planes were not equipped Aweronauticii Micitare or civilian. For example, IAR-24 and IAR-24 were purchased from private individuals and not well be included. There are private jets that are included because they were requisitioned and used in WW2 Military Aeronautics.

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