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Posted by: Vranceanu October 27, 2012 02:36 pm
Tomorrow, Sunday 28th october 2012, I am invited to "Secvential" with Adrian Ursu, on Antena 3, since 17,30, to speack about Romania in ww2. With me, general Ion Dobran. cool.gif cool.gif cool.gif

Posted by: dragos October 27, 2012 04:37 pm
Congratulations and good luck!
Don't forget to promote our site ! biggrin.gif

Posted by: Vranceanu October 27, 2012 09:34 pm
Thank you ! tongue.gif

Posted by: Ferdinand October 28, 2012 06:26 pm
QUOTE (Vranceanu @ October 27, 2012 02:36 pm)
... to speack about Romania in ww2. With me, general Ion Dobran. cool.gif cool.gif cool.gif

You and Dobran did good job, as for the direction of disscusion...They forgot to mention that Greceanu died in 1994 during the regime of"neo-communist" Iliescu, actual guru behind PSD leadership.


Posted by: Florin October 28, 2012 07:23 pm
QUOTE (seeker @ October 28, 2012 01:26 pm)
............You and Dobran did good job, as for the direction of disscusion.....

Antena 3

Posted by: Vranceanu October 28, 2012 07:37 pm
Here, the record:

http://inregistrari.antena3.ro/view-28_Oct-2012-Secvential-107.html

Posted by: muggs October 28, 2012 07:51 pm
Thanks for the link, didn't catch it live

Posted by: 21 inf October 28, 2012 08:40 pm
Thanks for the link and congratulations for the "emisiune"!

Posted by: Vranceanu October 28, 2012 10:13 pm
Thank you ! For me it is the third participation to "Secvential" but the first time I had occasion to speack only about royal aviation. And a great pleasure to be there with general Dobran and Lucia Hossu Longin. (And also with Greceanu and Stoian in images...)

Posted by: Agarici October 28, 2012 11:47 pm
Congratulations and thank you for the link!

[I would not criticize the "direction" of the discussions, since the things mentioned are real. I don't see how much the past deeds of Iliescu (by the way, how much of a guru is he still?) can counterbalance that... I also think that A. Ursu is a decent journalist.]

Mr. Dobran was in very good shape. I didn't know what a formidable person Teodor Greceanu was.

Posted by: Florin October 29, 2012 01:41 am
Moments 46:45…46:47 - a very rare occasion where you can see the dive brake of Ju-88 (only once I could see it before).

The original footage in minutes 46...48 is of very good visual quality. The source is mentioned as YouTube. I did a lot of personal search about Ju-88 on YouTube, but most of those images are new to me.
Mr. Vranceanu, do you know more regarding what YouTube videos were selected for those clips?
Thank you for the video link.

Posted by: muggs October 29, 2012 08:02 am
There's a watermark in russian in the left and right corner for that footage but i can't make out the writing.

Posted by: Vranceanu October 29, 2012 11:36 am
Yes, very nice old images, very clear and rare films. I don't know more about their origin.

Posted by: Ferdinand October 29, 2012 12:23 pm
QUOTE (Agarici @ October 28, 2012 11:47 pm)
... I don't see how much the past deeds of Iliescu (by the way, how much of a guru is he still?) can counterbalance that...



I also think that A. Ursu is a decent journalist.]

Up untill 2009-2010, my father wich was a MAPN subofiter, had after 30+years of army service a pension of 540 lei. After the "dictator leadership of basescu's evil regime" my fathers pension was recalculated cosidering his montly contribution to 1500 lei.
He use to cammand platoons. His service was very active...not sleeping in some depot. Also a lot of responsability. During 1989 rev he almost got shot 2 times, did a lot of patrol with 4-5 soldiers. Lost 1 friend colleague shot by ...?


My neighbor has 1800 lei pension , he received 2 lands, one in Poiana Brasov and one in Cristian village, for 3 days "service" in the water depot of Cristian village during 1989 revolution. He told me laughing that they were drunk all the time.(situation described also in PROtv's series "ROMANIA TE IUBESC")


That's a small portion of PSD/FSN/PDSR politics. Offcourse the "revolutionars" went into the street when evil Basescu wanted to cut their mafia paying sistem.

IMHO i think it would do great for our country to stop paying oportunists( keep paying only revolution victims), and give those money to veterans.


As for Mr. Ursu beeing decent....i laugh now and answer maybe later.

Posted by: Florin October 29, 2012 04:31 pm
Videos created by "razastegaru" on YouTube:

For Ion Dobran:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HivWgEXQ1Mk
For Horia Agarici:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_wSeE9lixE
For Bâzu Cantacuzino:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_znIrVAOYgE&feature=relmfu
For Ioan Dicezare:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vEjlFweJVeA
For Teodor Greceanu:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3XTqRouPITM&feature=relmfu
For Alexandru Şerbănescu:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sd2TG04H3VI&feature=relmfu
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7El86UNwj_o&feature=relmfu


Posted by: Florin October 29, 2012 04:57 pm
QUOTE (seeker @ October 29, 2012 07:23 am)
.............. During 1989 rev he almost got shot 2 times, did a lot of patrol with 4-5 soldiers. Lost 1 friend colleague shot by ...?


My neighbor has 1800 lei pension  , he received 2 lands, one in Poiana Brasov and one in Cristian village, for 3 days "service" in the water depot of Cristian village during 1989 revolution. He told me laughing that they were drunk all the time...........

On the night between 22-23 Dec I myself "almost got shot" once. When the ear can hear that high pitch sound of a small bullet passing by... that's close enough.
It never occurred to me that for all I did in those days I should claim to be registered "revolutionary". This was an introduction - let me label it "It does not matter".

What does it matter: 3 people that I personally knew myself for many years made the arrangements to be considered "revolutionaries" and they had nothing to do with that revolution. Crooks ! They were further from doing anything in those day than the guy you are describing - your neighbor who spent time in the water depot.
I heard that under certain "president" of that organization of revolutionaries, all you had to do was to pay the Baksheesh, and suddenly you were revolutionary, with right to own land and savings on transportation etc.
I know about one guy who was officer in Securitate who run away in West in December 1989 fearing prosecution for his "duty", then he returned in 1990 in Romania after seeing how things are going on... cool.gif He was re-hired in the new "services" with higher rank and payment.
And when all these happened ? When Romania was ruled by the guys who are now "starving" for being in opposition, and blame everything happening since 1990 on President Basescu or former Prime Minister Boc. Do you remember the "Cațavencu" magazine from early 1990's? : "Regimul Burghezo-Moş'Iliesc"

Posted by: Ferdinand October 29, 2012 09:23 pm
QUOTE (Florin @ October 29, 2012 04:57 pm)

And when all these happened ? When Romania was ruled by the guys who are now "starving" for being in opposition, and blame everything happening since 1990 on President Basescu or former Prime Minister Boc. Do you remember the "Cațavencu" magazine from early 1990's? : "Regimul Burghezo-Moş'Iliesc"

USL is now governing the nation, PDL is now the opposition. What is funny...6 months since USL is on charge ,everything is happening as they keep the cutting bugeds politics , they blame BOC. biggrin.gif


And to be ontopic, interview with Greceanu in Memorialul Durerii

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Df2eaCAEd6k

Posted by: Florin October 29, 2012 10:21 pm
Mr. General Dobran, in the photos from his published journal, had shown "some of my collaborators" and he fingered toward Adolf Galland ! (You can see that in the TV show.) I don't know of Galland being fighter pilot on the Eastern Front. Maybe he traveled there during inspections, as commander of the Fighter Force (General der Jagdflieger).
* * *
In moments 48:20…48:40 of the TV show: the music is "Protectors of the Earth" – created by "Two Steps from Hell".
So funny… It is one of the melodies I had already selected for my own movie project about Ju-88, still under development. cool.gif

Posted by: dragos October 30, 2012 09:32 am
Several off topic posts were deleted. Let's not turn the topic into a political debate.

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