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Tidal Wave Footage Photos, 15th AAF and Luftwaffe, 'Black Sunday', 1 August 1943

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Cantacuzino

Posted: January 04, 2005 04:25 pm

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As you stated Stoyanow didnt fly the G model

I said it didn't fly E-model in august '43. He flew G model on tidal wave day.

Victor	Posted: January 04, 2005 04:29 pm
Admin Group: Admin Posts: 4350 Member No.: 3 Joined: February 11, 2003	He doesn't look at all like Jienescu. Plus Jienescu had been awarded the Mihai Viteazul Order 3rd class in 1941. There would be no reason for him not to wear it and wear the Virtutea Aeronautica Order Knight/Gold Cross class alone. Here is Gheorghiu in a photo from Aripi Romanesti. Attached Image

alexkdl	Posted: January 04, 2005 04:35 pm
General de corp de armata Group: Banned Posts: 1809 Member No.: 373 Joined: October 22, 2004	Yes Victor is 100% as you stated though I guess the confussion lays at the poor quality of my photos which are rather old. Al

alexkdl	Posted: January 04, 2005 05:47 pm
General de corp de armata Group: Banned Posts: 1809 Member No.: 373 Joined: October 22, 2004	Victor here's again the photo you mentioned scanned for you for ID purposes Alex Attached Image

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Victor here's again the photo you mentioned scanned for you for ID purposes

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Gheorghiu's profile is unique (look at the photo I posted). Without a doubt that is him. Which raises the question over the validity of the date mentioned in the book (31 July 1943), when Gheorghiu was supposed to be still on the front with the 1st Air Corps.

alexkdl	Posted: January 04, 2005 06:04 pm
General de corp de armata Group: Banned Posts: 1809 Member No.: 373 Joined: October 22, 2004	Victor I understand so according to what you say was he the Chief of Staff of ARR at that time ? or AA CO? I am not as aware as you and Canatcuzino about his duties prior Tidalwave Al

Victor	Posted: January 04, 2005 08:56 pm
Admin Group: Admin Posts: 4350 Member No.: 3 Joined: February 11, 2003	Gheorghiu was the the CO of the 1st Air Corps, deployed on the front in the Ukraine. He held this position until September 1943. Gen. av. Jienescu was the Undersecretary of State for the Air Force.

alexkdl	Posted: January 04, 2005 10:00 pm
General de corp de armata Group: Banned Posts: 1809 Member No.: 373 Joined: October 22, 2004	Many thanks Victor Al

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Here are some more interesting photos and topics about tidalwave. Bellow is the Congressional Medal of Honour Citation of Second Lieutenant Lloyd H. Hughes, Air Corps, United States Army for his bravery at Ploesti. Sources...his family ablum and Wright Patterson AFB , OH. His plane at Ploesti was EAGER EAGLES

For conspicuous gallantry in action and intrepidity at the risk of his life above and beyond the call of duty. On 1 August 1943 Lieutenant Hughes served in the capacity of pilot of a heavy bombardment aircraft participating in a long and hazardous minimum altitude attack against the Axis oil refineries of Ploesti, Rumania, launched from the northern shores of Africa. Flying in the last formation to attack the target, he arrived in the target area after previous flights had thoroughly alerted the enemy defenses. Approaching the target through intense and accurate antiaircraft fire and dense balloon barrages at dangerously low altitude, his airplane received several direct hits from both large and small caliber antiaircraft guns which seriously damaged his aircraft, causing sheets of escaping gasoline to stream from the bomb bay and from the left wing. This damage was inflicted at a time prior to reaching the target when Lieutenant Hughes could have made a forced landing in any of the grain fields readily available at that time. The target area was blazing with burning oil tanks and damaged refinery installations from which flames leaped high above the bombing level of the formation. Will full knowledge of the consequences of entering this blazing inferno when his airplane was profusely leaking gasoline in two separate locations, Lieutenant Hughes, motivated only by his high conception of duty which called for the destruction of his assigned target at any cost, did not elect to make a forced landing or turn back from the attack. Instead, rather than jeopardize the formation and the success of the attack, he unhesitatingly entered the blazing area and dropped his bomb load with great precision. After successfully bombing the objective, his aircraft emerged from the conflagration with the left wing aflame. Only then did he attempt a forced landing, but because of the advanced stage of the fire enveloping his aircraft, the airplane crashed and was consumed. By Lieutenant Hughes' heroic decision to complete his mission regardless of the consequences, in utter disregard for his own life, and by his gallant and valorous execution of this decision, he rendered a service to our country in the defeat of our enemies which will be everlastingly outstanding in the annals of our nation's

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Below is the wreks of Lt. Hughes plane crashed on the river bad ( Prahova) south from Campina.

B-24 Sn 42-40753 “J” Pilot Lloyd H. Hughes, 389BG, 564thBS 8KIA, 2 POW Lost near the target, Campina.

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B-24 Sn 42-40753 “J” Pilot Lloyd H. Hughes, 389BG, 564thBS 8KIA, 2 POW Lost near the target, Campina.

174 unindentified body of americans were burried on 4 august '43 in Cimitirul Eroilor ( Heroes Cemetery ) from Campina as stated by romanian police( Jandarmeria) in their reports.

Below you have the picture of Hughes B-24 rudder with the serial number.

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Cantacuzino	Posted: January 05, 2005 08:08 am
Host Group: Hosts Posts: 2328 Member No.: 144 Joined: November 17, 2003	And below another vision of Tidal Wave from artist Ion Tzaralunga. Boiler Maker II over the target. Attached Image

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Also those of the air tactics on B-24 models of ARR pilots is again something rare ! Where these things showed up from after somany years ?

Alex

In romanian air force was common for the pilots to learn tactics with the help of scale models of fighters and bombers. I saw pictures with IAR 80 models ( aprox 1/48scale) used by pilots prior to Tidal Wave.

Here is a picture of romanian and germans on Mizil airfield ( '43) study tactics with the help of scale wood models aprox. 1/48 scale ( but not Revell ).
In the background the Bf-109 of Cpt. Steinmann.

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alexkdl	Posted: January 05, 2005 11:09 am
General de corp de armata Group: Banned Posts: 1809 Member No.: 373 Joined: October 22, 2004	Dan Outsanding photos, I was wondering who's the ARR pilot holding on his hands the two ME-109 models and stands rather in the background ? Also are still any graves ( can you take photos? ) of Hughes and his crew as well Bakker at Campina ? eventually other from the same raid who are still burried in Campina, Ploesti or Bucharest? Many thanks Alex

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Outsanding photos, I was wondering who's the ARR pilot holding on his hands the two ME-109 models and stands rather in the background ?

The poor quality of the photo doesn't help for pilots indentification but the two small planes looks to me as IAR 80's and not Bf-109.

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Also are still any graves ( can you take photos? ) of Hughes and his crew as well Bakker at Campina ? eventually other from the same raid who are still burried in Campina, Ploesti or Bucharest?

I 'm aware that Hughes and his crew were among the unindentified americans burried in Campina Cemetery probably in common graves, only seven were indentified and burried also in the same cemetery.
I just call a friend of mine born in Campina and he said in the city there is no Cemetery with that name but it could be near the city. As for the pictures and more reserch in Prahova area at the crashed places of bombers we have to wait the spring ( the roads in Romania are not the same as in Switzerland ). But i will try to call a friend of mine from Ploesti maybe he knows something about the other Heroes Cemetery located in Ploesti .

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