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Posted: January 07, 2005 06:43 pm
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Is this a Tidal Wave victim ?

Has been this US pilot identified ?

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Posted: January 07, 2005 07:01 pm
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They look like soldiers of the Guard Division, possibly of the division's recon group. It could very well be a Soviet airman.
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Posted: January 07, 2005 07:05 pm
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QUOTE (Victor @ Jan 7 2005, 10:01 PM)
They look like soldiers of the Guard Division, possibly of the division's recon group. It could very well be a Soviet airman.

The caption at the Military Museum said about Tidal Wave, but we all know how reliable are the captions at the museum sad.gif

Anybody else?
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Posted: January 07, 2005 07:31 pm
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Anyone know who's the Dr that rebuilded the face of the Pilot?
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Posted: January 07, 2005 09:58 pm
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Dragos despite the photos is being grussam, this can not be of an american airman, due to the leftovers of the uniform style and the seat retention system which doesnt look much american to me

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Posted: January 07, 2005 11:44 pm
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alexkdl, do you have a picture with a fully geared US bomber airmen to compare it with the picture with the dead pilot?
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Posted: January 08, 2005 12:04 am
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Dragos , I do, I gonna post it , bellow a B-24 gunner as per 1943 US ARMY AIR CORPS stand.equipment book

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Posted: January 08, 2005 12:06 am
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Dragos, as u can see the waist gunner did not have on this photo the middle point release buckle....so its hard to say !

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Posted: January 08, 2005 12:12 am
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QUOTE (alexkdl @ Jan 8 2005, 03:04 AM)
Dragos , I do, I gonna post it , bellow a B-24 gunner as per 1943 US ARMY AIR CORPS stand.equipment book

Alex

Alex, the flying gear you posted looks identical with the one of the dead US airman !

Just look at the round buckler where the four belts joins, or the metal clips of the belts coming vertically from the shoulders.
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Posted: January 08, 2005 12:30 am
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B-24 Pilot apparel

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Posted: January 08, 2005 12:33 am
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I see the variations, but the dead pilot suit looks identical with the first picture you posted, the one "as per 1943 US ARMY AIR CORPS stand.equipment book"

Had the Soviet pilots the same belt layout ?
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Posted: January 08, 2005 12:37 am
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Dragos , its hard to say , please check fighter pilot apparel too ( P-38 on this photo)....note that the dead airman has on point relase buckle on the middle of the harness belt

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Posted: January 08, 2005 12:39 am
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I am 99% percent sure it is an US bomber crew gunner. Waiting of other opinions...
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Posted: January 08, 2005 01:12 am
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Dragos is still hard to say, partially some gunners hat it , also fighter pilots , russians had a lot of parachute torso harnesses donated by uncle sam...so it will be more useful to know the location where the airman remains were cpllected

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Posted: January 08, 2005 11:42 pm
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Me and Dan Melinte (aka Cantacuzino) went to a trip to Doftana river today smile.gif

After a while of debates we start to figure things out, a few locals helped us whit somme general information.

Here is a photo when we discovered the background of one of the crashing libartors (there were 2 crashed in verry near one from another).

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