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Posted: January 10, 2005 03:06 pm
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  Dan , thanks. I need to ask you an other question...Modelism has two PAL /SECAM video casettes on the TIDALLWAVE , have you ever seen them what they include ? they want EUR 15 for each ...let me know

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Posted: January 10, 2005 03:39 pm
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Yeah..I just answered you...let continue this topic who knows , maybe we entangle many other things

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Posted: January 10, 2005 03:51 pm
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I have the video-cd version of that tape, interview whit 3 romanian pilots (Sculi, Carol Anastasescu, and anothe one, i forgot his name) , somme known footage, verry short fragments of the Gologan reportage, recent footage from the helicopter on the Ploesti area. But the bad part is that it has subtitles and the font used is verry big sad.gif
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Posted: January 10, 2005 04:41 pm
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Off topic posts removed. This thread has become a Sticky and all off-topic conversation will be deleted.

Costaricca, please read this older thread :http://www.worldwar2.ro/forum/index.php?showtopic=723. You will find out there what you are interested in.
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Posted: January 10, 2005 10:11 pm
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Dan

Here is the first info I located on the SAND-WITCH Co Pilot .I am still looking for the others. Pilot in command details ^can not be found.......The Co Pilot Charles Thurston Hull who is burried at the Hero Cemitery received SILVER STAR !



Entry: US NATIONAL ARCHIVES
Details:
Date of Entry: 12/14/2001

PERSONAL DATA
Last Name: HULL
First Name: CHARLES THURSTON
Nick Names:
Address:
City: COLFAX
State: WA
Zip:
Phone:
Deceased: Y Okay to display Address & Phone: Y



MILITARY DATA
Country: UNITED STATES
Branch of Service: ARMY
Entry Date:
Discharge Date: 08/01/1943
Highest Service Rank: 2ND LT.
Military Service Number: 0-740818
Theater of Operations: ETO
Air Force: 2
Bomb Group: 389
Squadron: 566
Stayed In Military After War: N
Recalled / Reentered Korea: N
Retired Military: N



MILITARY TRAINING
Training Locations: SANTA ANA CALIFORNIA
Traing Type PILOT
Cadet or Training Class(es): UNK
Other Training: NONE



B-24 EXPERIENCE
Position and/or Job: CO PILOT
Aircraft Type: B-24D
Aircraft Name and/or Number(s): UNK
Number of Missions: UNK
WIA: N MIA: N KIA: Y Evade: N POW: N Escape: N Ditched: N
Current B-24 Associations : NONE

ADDITIONAL DETAILS

KILLED OVER PLOESTI AUG 1,1943. RECEIVED SILVER STAR POSTHUMOUSLY

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Posted: January 11, 2005 10:24 am
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I found the data for the plane in the picture below.
B-24 Sn 41-11766 V CHUG-A-LUG Pilot LeRoy B. Morgan, 98BG,345thBS
Returned to Benghazi damaged and with the Top Turret gunner KIA on Tidal Wave mission.
The romanian pilot Sgt. Bosinceanu ( IAR 80) reported that he destroyed the upper turret of one B-24 finishing his ammo.

PS: Alex, please find the names of the crew for this B-24.
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Posted: January 11, 2005 11:40 am
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Hello Dan

Except of the names of the CHUG-A-LUG and SAND-WITCH crews which you also have , the 15AF 2 Air Divsion does not contain any details on the crews nor any of the relatives of the crews have ever posted any requested for info...though I am still working on it with Confederate AF and 44th, 389, and 98 Bmb Grp vets familes.

Do you need the name of the crews of CHUG-A-LAG ?

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Except of the names of the CHUG-A-LUG and SAND-WITCH crews which you also have , the 15AF 2 Air Divsion does not contain any details on the crews nor any of the relatives of the crews have ever posted any requested for info...though I am still working on it with Confederate AF and 44th, 389, and 98 Bmb Grp vets familes.

Do you need the name of the crews of CHUG-A-LAG ?

Alex


No Alex, personaly I don't need the names of CHUG-A-LUG. But the two guys in the picture are crew members and maybe someone could indentify them from the list. Anyway i will serch myself in my data base ( I think i have also the story of this B-24 in Tidal Wave mission).
Btw., I found the location of Bolovani Cemetery. It is indeed in the west side of Ploesti. Next trip will be Ploesti.
And also found the crash place of Euroclydon. It is near the village Plopu aprox. 10Km NE from Ploesti. One of the crew member was indentified (Joe Boswell) and was burried togheter with other unindentified crew members in a common grave in Plopu cemetery on 1 august'43.

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Posted: January 11, 2005 01:30 pm
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Dan the CHUGALUG crews are as following :

P Lt Leroy B.Morgan
CP Hosea W.Rich ( KIA in 1944)
N 2nd Lt Victor H.Larson ( WIA)
B 2nd Lt Chaplin Watkins
TT James Van Ness ( he was killed by the ARR pilot on his top turett)
R Robert L.Tipton also wounded in action by the same ARR plane
TG Norbert I.Petrie ( German immigrant )
G Norman I Cupp
G Forrest D.Hudley

I am still clarifying who's on your top turret photo

As into the EUCLYDON, the one you mentioned was the CPL , the Pilot Lt Enoch Porter was also KIA , the Bombardier Jose D.Franks bailed out but his parachute failed to open , Radio Ops and 2 gunners have died, 2 gunners POW at Sinaia ....note that the aircraft had extra 2 gunners on board which was rather unsual ( beside top turret gunner, tail gunner, waist gunners ,B & N who also manned guns)

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Posted: January 11, 2005 02:07 pm
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As into the EUCLYDON, the one you mentioned was the CPL , the Pilot Lt Enoch Porter was also KIA , the Bombardier Jose D.Franks bailed out but his parachute failed to open , Radio Ops and 2 gunners have died, 2 gunners POW at Sinaia ....note that the aircraft had extra 2 gunners on board which was rather unsual ( beside top turret gunner, tail gunner, waist gunners ,B & N who also manned guns)

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I heard that one of the gunners ( Dikinson) was volunteer (clandestine) and not official on this mission.

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Posted: January 11, 2005 02:28 pm
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Yes Dan they were....they aboarded the aircraft without knowledge of the specific superiors and and never returned back ...they were actually ground crews ,trained as technical staff . Also on the aftermath of the TIDALWAVE the parachute rigger who packed EUROCLYDON Bombardier J.D.Franks was subject to military trials.

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Posted: January 12, 2005 12:35 am
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Dan, here's the official report of the 389th on the loss of the SAND-WITCH

MACR 156
389th BG Missing Air Crew Report Details
USAAF MACR#: 156
Date Lost: 1-Aug-43
Serial Number: 42-40735
Aircraft Model B-24D-90-CO
Aircraft Letter: C-
Aircraft Name: SAND WITCH
Squadron: 566th BS
Location: Campina, Romania
Cause: AA Damage
Notes: Entire crew received DSC for this mission.



Position Rank Name Fate Hometown
Pilot 1/Lt Horton, Robert W. KIA ???
Co-Pilot 2/Lt Hull, Charles T. KIA ???
Navigator 2/Lt Krug, Richard B. KIA ???
Bombardier 2/Lt Emerson, Elwood H. KIA ???
Engineer S/Sgt Steen, Zerrill J. POW ???
Radio Sgt Smith, Jack E. KIA ???
Waist T/Sgt Herlevic, Frank A. KIA ???
Waist S/Sgt Lambert, James V. KIA ???
Tunnel Sgt Kauffmann, Robert P. KIA ???
Tail S/Sgt Smith, Mack H. KIA ???

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Posted: January 12, 2005 12:37 am
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Dan, here's the report of the 389th on the loss the EAGGER EAGLE


MACR 157
389th BG Missing Air Crew Report Details
USAAF MACR#: 157
Date Lost: 1-Aug-43
Serial Number: 42-40753
Aircraft Model B-24D-95-CO
Aircraft Letter: J
Aircraft Name:
Squadron: 564th BS
Location: East of Campina, Romania
Cause: AA, Crash landed in dry river bed after target.
Notes: Hughes received MOH, and remaining crew received DSC for this mission.



Position Rank Name Fate Hometown
Pilot 2/Lt Hughes, Lloyd D. KIA ???
Co-Pilot 2/Lt Helder, Ronald H. KIA ???
Navigator 2/Lt Pear, Sidney A. KIA ???
Bombardier 2/Lt McLaughlin, John A. KIA ???
Engineer T/Sgt Mix, Joseph E. KIA ???
Radio T/Sgt Kase, Louis M. KIA ???
Waist S/Sgt Dalton, Malcom C. KIA ???
Waist S/Sgt Smith, Edmond H. POW ???
Tunnel S/Sgt Wilson, Avis K. KIA ???
Tail S/Sgt Hoff, Thomas A. POW ???
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Posted: January 12, 2005 12:39 am
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Here is the 389th loss report on Chatanoga Chu Chu

MACR 158
389th BG Missing Air Crew Report Details
USAAF MACR#: 158
Date Lost: 1-Aug-43
Serial Number: 42-40782
Aircraft Model B-24D-95-CO
Aircraft Letter: X-
Aircraft Name: CHATTANOOGA CHOO CHOO
Squadron: Aircraft: 567th BS Crew: 565th BS
Location: South of Floresti, Romania
Cause: AA
Notes:



Position Rank Name Fate Hometown
Pilot 1/Lt O'Reilly, Robert J. POW ???
Co-Pilot 2/Lt Paulson, Ernest L. POW ???
Navigator 2/Lt Britt, Richard W. POW ???
Bombardier 2/Lt Romano, Alfred A. POW ???
Engineer T/Sgt Kees, Frank J. KIA ???
Radio Op. T/Sgt Riffle, Clell B. POW ???
Ball / Tunnel S/Sgt McCary, Troy O. POW ???
Waist S/Sgt Bowker, Jack R. POW ???
Waist S/Sgt Rurak, Phillip A. POW ???
Tail S/Sgt Medeiros, Louis POW ???
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MACR 159
389th BG Missing Air Crew Report Details
USAAF MACR#: 159
Date Lost: 1-Aug-43
Serial Number: 42-40115
Aircraft Model B-24D-30-CO
Aircraft Letter: A-
Aircraft Name: BOOMERANG
Squadron: 566th BS
Location: 80 miles SSW of Campina, Romania
Cause: AA
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Position Rank Name Fate Hometown
Pilot 1/Lt Neef, Melvin E. POW ???
Co-Pilot S/Sgt Larson, Carl POW ???
Command Pilot Maj Yaeger, William H. POW ???
Navigator Capt Ferguson, Clay V. POW ???
Bombardier 1/Lt Wallace, Charles N. POW ???
Engineer S/Sgt Godwin, Harold T. POW ???
Engineer T/Sgt Randall, Fred POW ???
Radio T/Sgt Sedlack, James J. POW ???
Waist S/Sgt Kensit, Arthur C. POW ???
Waist S/Sgt Wescott, Earl C. POW ???
Tail S/Sgt Bailey, Albert A. POW ???

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