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Cantacuzino |
Posted: January 14, 2005 11:46 am
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The cemetery with the 168 unindentified airmans is Bolovani Cemetery west area Ploesti. Probably the confusion could be from the fact that near the cristian cemetery is probably also the jewish cemetery. This is the case of Heroes Cemetery of Campina wich has also near a jewish cemetery. 100% sure the crew members of Jose Carioca are burried in Ploesti Bolovani cemetery. Next trip will be Ploesti and i will make pictures with this cemetery. Btw, the list of cemeteries with unindentified airmans it's probably incomplete.( what is the fate of those burried in Plopu village cemetery?? ) |
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alexkdl |
Posted: January 14, 2005 06:09 pm
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General de corp de armata Group: Banned Posts: 1809 Member No.: 373 Joined: October 22, 2004 |
Hello Dan
That would be fantastic if you could take the trip to PLoesti and Bolovan and take photos...I think the report of the Embassy is relatively incomplete. JOSE CARIOCA impact with the women jail was severe and I really doubt that there could have been remains to be burried Al |
389bmbgrpvet |
Posted: January 16, 2005 04:42 pm
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Howdy Alex
My friends from 44th , 376th alerted me about your thread at the Roumanian forum, I've to tell ya you've got the best of the best I saw on Internet and in general. I wasn't aware that after somany years someone like you guys would start a topic like this and revive somany emotions and memories. My dad was co pilot on the HORSE FLY and the entire crew were interned in Turkey. As I am aware from my forum mates that you are an airline pilot , I wonder if you keep contacts with confederate air force and ever flown a B-24 ??? I did it ! If have from the 389th Bmb Grp your email and I will send you some reports and TW photos I've got from my dad. With your premission I gonna post your link at our site .........blue skie and hod bless ya Take Care Ed |
hailcolumbia24 |
Posted: January 16, 2005 08:01 pm
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Alex,my dad flew on BLACK JACK on Col. Kane " Killer" formation of the 9th as Bombardier and the aircraft safely returned to Lybia . Vets familes friends who knows you from confederate, told me you deal extensively with this subject. I am looking for some old photos prior and during tidalwave from my dads collection, let me know again your email address, gonna send ya over to ya, I am certain you gonna like them (two are colored)
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44thbombgrpcrew |
Posted: January 16, 2005 08:18 pm
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Hi Alex
You posted a message regarding the fate of 2nd Lt Jesse D.Franks of the EUROCLYDON and if I am not wrong his remains were coffined and burried in Holland at the memorial cemitary of the 8th and 9th Air Force at the Ardens , most probably in 1947-1948 era Steve |
alexkdl |
Posted: January 16, 2005 10:34 pm
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Steve
I have asked myself the same question, and yet I still believe that he was not transffered to the Ardens and still burried somewhere in Roumania as he bailed out with an unoperational chute at low altitude and the roumanian Jandarmeries burried him somewhere . Al |
alexkdl |
Posted: January 17, 2005 06:56 am
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I have posted some messages before the photo of Lt Jesse D Franks the Navigator of the Euroclydon which bailed out of the aircarft near Ploesti and its parachute failed to open. I thought he may be burried in Roumania...but I got yesterday an email from a Tidalwave historian who provided me the grave photo of Jesse D Franks, grave located on the Ardens which appearently was burried in there between 1949-1952 after being brought back from Ploesti
http://www.abmc.gov/detailwwnew.php Photo thanks to Pat Schenk , USA Alex This post has been edited by Victor on January 17, 2005 07:46 am Attached Image |
alexkdl |
Posted: January 17, 2005 07:12 am
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Lt Jesse D Franks, Navigator EUROCLYDON KIA over Ploesti on Aug 1,1943 by bailing out of the EUROCLYDON with a defective chute or a chute which was activated at a too low altitude given the flying altitude of the B-24 which was less than 200 ft. AGL or aprox 60 m First Lieutenant, U.S. Army Air Forces Service # O-734444 328th Bomber Squadron, 93rd Bomber Group, Heavy Entered the Service from: Mississippi Died: August 1, 1943 Buried at: Plot B Row 20 Grave 12 Ardennes American Cemetery Neupre, Belgium Awards: Distinguished Flying Cross, Air Medal, Purple Heart This post has been edited by alexkdl on January 17, 2005 07:24 am Attached Image |
alexkdl |
Posted: January 17, 2005 07:42 pm
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Dan
From the recent email received from Pat Schenk in the US , Lt Hughes Lloyd of the OLE KICK KAPOO ....I discovered that name adopted perviously by the historian is not correct, Hughes Tail Gunner family member has clarified this alos is not burried in Roumania but at FT. Sam Houston, San Antonio Texas in his home state . He puts flowers on it EVERY Memorial Day. Photo of Mr David Cornell Hurd from Texas Al This post has been edited by alexkdl on January 17, 2005 11:34 pm Attached Image |
alexkdl |
Posted: January 18, 2005 12:18 am
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Here is the formation attacking the AQUILA refineries as seen from a B-24 which is just overhead. Photo US NATIONAL Archives
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Cantacuzino |
Posted: January 18, 2005 06:51 am
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Ok Alex, but there some questions about this issue: 1. How U.S. indentified Hughes remains from the others crew members becouse rom. authority didn't do it and was burried in Campina cemetery in common grave with all unindentified members of his crew ? 2. The tail gunner of Eager-Eagle ( not Kick-Kapoo) if he survived knows about the fate of the other crew member remains. Are they indentified and burried in U.S.? 3. Are you sure was not a names confusion ? So i think the mistery it still exist ( at least for me) Dan. |
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Cantacuzino |
Posted: January 18, 2005 07:13 am
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Alex from the upper list you can see the indentified airmans (from rom.archiv) of the two B-24 crashed near Campina after the raid. But i found a new info that the bodie of Malcolm C.Dalton ( Eager-Eagle) was found near the "Bobolic" bridge of Banesti village and burried in Banesti cemetery. Corelated with the other info from the villager of Banesti that two airman were burried in Banesti cemetery could be the answer to this issue. Malcolm and Hughes could be the two airman burried in first place in Banesti cemetery and later transferred to U.S.A. Dan. |
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Cantacuzino |
Posted: January 18, 2005 07:28 am
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Below it'a picture from "Muzeul Aviatiei" din Otopeni with Tidal Wave comemoration section. ( photo courtesy Razvan Bujor )
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Cantacuzino |
Posted: January 18, 2005 07:33 am
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And ARR pilots from 53sq joining a relax moments with their mascots.
Two of them credited with B-24 vic. on Tidal Wave. One is Of.de echipaj Maga Ioan ( the one with the big dog) and Sgt. Mitrica Encioiu on the left side of the picture near Maga. Attached Image |
Cantacuzino |
Posted: January 18, 2005 07:50 am
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Another mistery unsolved : who shot down ARR pilot Cpt.Ghica Marin.
The gunner Smtr.Gh.Teliban managed to bail out from the burning plane. But Cpt. Ghica leaving the plane (after his gunner) didn't have time to open his chute and died near his plane at Ogrezeni village. Below it's Ghica Bf-110 C, wnr. 1819 of 12/NJG6, Esc.51Vt. (Profile courtesy Cornel Nastase) Attached Image |
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