Hawker Hurricane in ARR

At least some of the Yugo hurricanes wore the B type raf camo, as this fabric wing Hurricane shows.
This photo clearly shows the old RAF markings overpainted on the tail, fuselage and wings.
They could i guess be identified among the ARR ones by the shape of the unarmored wind shield.


Picture from Monografie Lotnicze 52, Hawker Hurricane cz.2

This post has been edited by 109 on February 28, 2005 09:59 pm

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The standard B camo (source : Hurricane Walk-Around by Squadron)

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Here is the underside of the same Hurri as the first pic;

Picture from Monografie Lotnicze 52, Hawker Hurricane cz.2

This post has been edited by 109 on February 28, 2005 09:59 pm

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Hi, 1-0-9.
Thanks for the pictures . They are greats. Also the undersurface of rom. service Hurry pictures could lead us to find ex. Yugo Hurry. But unfortunetly all the pictures with rom.Hurry that i saw were black and white british cammo undersurface wings.

Dan.

The problem is, which of the RAf caom types ARR planes had?
Here is a fragment from the excellent SAM book on hurricane.
Based on the delivery date, there could only be between 2 and 6. None of them feature any sky colour on the undersurface, just black, white and aluminium.
The sky undersides apeared in may 1940, after the batch of 12 Hurries were delivered to Romania.
Frankly, as a modeller I think that these are important issues, far more important than werknummers or other minor details.

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Based on this photo from Aripi Romanesti wartime magazine , the undersides could have been the second type of raf camo. Other photos in which the left side is obviously black contradict this though ...I wish someone would be gentleman enough and share with us a clearer picture...any?..no?

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I agree with you 1-0-9( from the modeller point of view). But the brit give us (today) so much trouble with all that different types of undersurface cammo in a short perioad for Hurry.

Dan.

109, in case if you missed it, this is what the forum rules on posting photos:

Please mention the source.

If you allready had such usefull information for Aleks why you waiting so long to let him know

First, as I mentioned, I am already in touch with Aleks and gave him relevant information and a photo.

Second, his study is about the April 1941 war in Yugoslavia, not about the career of ex-Yugoslav war material in other air forces.

No-one said it's a fake. All I pointed out is that it's a secondary source, not an original document.

The fact that the figure related to the Hurricane's activity in the ARR's first campaign is not accurate is not your fault at all. I merely corrected it, so it would not be used as source by others.

Gen. Dénes

Ups. I miss this one!

All RYAF Hurries were overpainted in three tone upper camo before the beggining of war. British serials posted by our new colleague are correct.

Cheers,
Aleks

I forgot to menion that photos of RYAF machine on the top of the page are property of Mr. Malcom Passingham. They are made in England during test flights.

Cheers,
Aleks

Ok, now i understand.
Aleks, a scan from a french book ( La chasse de jour allemande en Roumanie ) maybe you didn't read it ( german attacks from Romania )

This post has been edited by Cantacuzino on March 01, 2005 07:54 am

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Hi C,

it's more or less familiar. Thanks for thinking.

Cheers,
Aleks

I just received a reply from Andrew Thomas, author of several books related to the Hawker Hurricane:
"Well, Denes, it looks like they were fabric covered!
Here is an excerpt from a document I found:

Based on the info Steve E., Andy T. and Tony H. has provided me, it now appears as certain that the dozen Hurricanes exported to Rumania originally rolled off the production line with fabric covered wings. Somewhere on the route from the Hawker factory to service with Esc. 53 vân. , some, or all, wings have been replaced by metal covered ones.
Some more detective work has to be done, to find out when and how this change has happened.

Gen. Dénes

This post has been edited by Dénes on March 07, 2005 03:10 am