Hawker Hurricane in ARR

That source mentioned only some of the Huricanes were removed 2 machine guns ( as seen in the pictures) but never mentioned the numbers of Hurricanes who did that and the date of this issue ( before or after Rosescu crash)

Dan.

JUst after the arrival...

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Friendly team ...Hurricanes and Emil's

After arrival from where? England or Yugoslavia?
It’s very nice photo. If it shows captured Yugoslav machines, is there any chance that I can get a copy for my book?

Cheers,
Aleks

PS I'm very suspicious about windshields. VVKJ Hurricanes were without horizontal bars.

This photo shows British Hurricanes, not ex-Yugoslav.

Gen. Dénes

Hello, maybe this photo will enlighten us about the wings of at least some ARR Hurricanes.

The source is the old Romanian Adler magazine

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Thanks Denes,
that was my opinion too.

Cheers,
Aleks

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This post has been edited by Cantacuzino on February 17, 2005 07:34 am

What this photo demonstrates (assuming that it shows a Rumanian Hurricane) is that at least one airplane had metal wings. Nothing more.

What I wrote before is that according to British sources, the first series of Hurricanes were manufactured with fabric covered wings, then gradually production was switched to metal wings. At one point, Hurricanes were fitted with both fabric and metal wings. Later on, during overhaul, fabric covered wings were switched to metal wings.
I never declared that Rumanian Hurricanes had fabric covered wings. I merely raised the possibility.

There is no need to be ironic, this is not a virtual boxing match, and particularly is improper to twist ones' words.
We should rather co-operate in good faith instead...

Gen. Dénes

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This post has been edited by Cantacuzino on February 17, 2005 07:36 am

It didn't seem to me as such, Dan.
Now that you clarified the issue it's O.K.

The Russian source did mention that it was a Rumanian Hurricane, shot down by I-16s of the 69th IAP.

Of course. That was the point. I used the source to prove that not all Rumanian Hurricanes had 6 MGs in their wings, instead of the original 8, as claimed by a certain source.

After quite a few aggressive replies to my posts (see the topic of 'Favourite Fighter Pilot', for ex.) I cannot handle posts that seem to me that are directed against me lightly. I usually try to approach the topics in good faith, but it doesn;t always work.
Imagine yourself posting on a forum dedicated to the history of Hungary and being subjected to the same treatment. I bet you wouldn't take posts, which would seem to you that are directed against you, lightly either...

Gen. Dénes

This post has been edited by Dénes on February 14, 2005 04:46 pm

Regarding the romanian Huricanes with fabric or aluminium sheeted wings, in my opinion romanian authority who payed this batch of 12 british fighters checked that all the planes are similar. I don't think the price it's the same for fabric and aluminium sheet. The maintenance for Hurricane with different wings were inacceptable. That why i said if one rom. Hurricane in the picture is with aluminium wings all 12 should have this.( i don't know for ex. yugo hurry who Romania didn't pay nothing).

Below you have the drawings for the difference between this wings ( fabric and aluminium).


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I don't want to further expand this controversy on ARR Hurricane's wings, but I (still) believe puting too much emphasis on logic and hindsight in historical matters can lead to errors. It's not a good practice in my view.

Anyhow, below is a photo of a Rumanian Hurricane, taken by a German mechanic.

Gen. Dénes

Note: two topics merged by Dénes

This post has been edited by Dénes on February 15, 2005 10:09 pm

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I agree with you Denes only archivs doc. and pictures can lead to the truth.

From your posted list the Huricanes MkI with fabric wings were 430 in total. The first in series is L 1547 and the last one is L 1977.

I found the list of serial number of the 12 Huricanes bought by Romania in 1940.
L 2077, L 2078, L 2085, L 2093, L 2094, L 2095, L 2096, L 2097, L 2104, L 2112, L 2113 and L 2114.
No one match with the serial number with fabric cover wings from your list.

I don't have the serial numbers for yugoslav Hurricanes in Romanian service ( maybe our serbian friends could help).

Below the list of Rom. Hurry Sn. from Air International magazine.

This post has been edited by Cantacuzino on February 16, 2005 11:18 am

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A picture with rom. Hurricane nr.5. It looks like used only 6 guns instead of 8.
Picture courtesy Dan Antoniu.


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