Tidal Wave Footage Photos, 15th AAF and Luftwaffe, 'Black Sunday', 1 August 1943

Here is a publication in 1943 which has appeared on one of the US Newspapers in Chicago about this raid and one crew from Chicago who was overthere

Alex

Courtesy : The Flying Circus Memorial

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Wow very nice photos of the IAR instruments , they are in good shape...I know that Sinn and Junghaus but also VDO in germany produce the clocks. Is there any boresight system preserverd ? can you get any photos ?

Alex

i ve never seen that picture whit the liberator verry tragic moments, Alex are you sure is been hit above Romania? or is a maby? Anyway stunning photogrphs, thank for posting such rare photos!

Cip many thanks, I just relay on info I get from Confederate AF, and Bomb veterans families...I can't tell it for sure but many went down over the skies of Roumania and yet still also over Ploesti after 1943 Tidalwave ...I was told the crew was enroute to Ploesti from Italy and occured somewhere over Roumania

Best Regards and Happy X-Mas to you and Family

Al

Try to find on Google the story of The B-24H Boojum crew.
Or try this email adress: dancisak@tulane.edu

Many thanks , I shall look into it

Al

Here is a picture with Cpt. Toma Lucian ( in the middle) the 53sq leader in '43.


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Its a great photo, who's the person right to him and what kind of a head apparel is he using ? I also noticed that Capt Toma is wearing the Luftwaffe pilot badge on his right chehst ( did he obtain Pilot/Observer badge or just Pilot because I cant see the badge colours ,and where did he train in Germany for it ?) instead left bellow the tunic pocket as most of the Luftwaffe worn them...also he wear a Wehrmacht injury stripe.....where did he get injured ?


Thanks
Alex

This post has been edited by alexkdl on December 22, 2004 04:22 pm

That particular head gear was fashionable among airmen (and probably not only). I think it's purpose was to keep the hair flat and not let the wind ruin it.

I cannot see it. Are you referring to the white chevron(s) usually sawn on the uniform's left sleeve? What I can see on the photo in that area is simply a light reflection.

Gen. Dénes

Denes the injury stripe is on the middle of the uniform Red/ White in real though you can distinguish it eventhough is B&W

Al

If you refer to the three-colour ribbon in the upper button hole, that was for the Iron Cross, 2nd Class.

Gen. Dénes

P.S. Congratulation for being promoted to an officer's rank (2nd Lt.)

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Hello Denes, thank you for the congrats.

Normally on Wehrmacht uniforms that ribbon meant a front injury I wasnt aware that its stands for an iron cross on the Roumanian uniforms . I still wana know if Toma was qualified as Pilot or Pilot Observer of the Luftwaffe. Pilot / Observer has golden leafes around the german adler and silver was only pilot.

Happy Seasonal Greetings
Alex

PS : where do you live in Canada ? I have family in Ottawa and Richmond, BC

I am not an expert on German decorations, medals, etc., but to my knowledge the Iron Cross, 2nd Class, was symbolized by a three-colour ribbon inserted in the top button hole of the uniform - exactly the same way Cpt. av. Lucian Toma wears it. Wound marks were worn on the left sleeve.

Gen. Dénes

P.S. I live in Toronto

I also thought that was the ribbon for Iron Cross 2nd class.As I recall the Wounded Badge looks very different and is made from metal.

Denes

Yes you and Mytzu are probably right , my expertise reffers to Air Forces and military aviation therefore I may be wrong.

I was in Toronto , is a great place.....I lived several years in Fla

Best Regards
Al