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YAN |
Posted: February 04, 2013 04:01 pm
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Fruntas Group: Members Posts: 56 Member No.: 2942 Joined: November 15, 2010 |
Hi, I have come across four types of 13.2mm Heavy Machine Guns, all based on the Hotchkiss version I think, (not counting the ones mounted in AFVs), but all have slightly different data stats;
French; Hotchkiss 13.2mm mle 1930. Calibre: 13.2mm Barrel length: 1.670mm Elevation: -10° to +90° Traverse: 360° Weight in action: 37.5 kg Shell weight: 0.52 g Magazine capacity: 30 rounds Muzzle velocity: 700 m/s Rate of fire: 450 rpm Max range vertical: 1.250m Max range horizontal: 6.500m Romanian; 1.3cm M.1931. Calibre: 13.2mm Barrel length: 1.670mm Elevation: -10° to +90° Traverse: 360° Weight in action: 37.5 kg Shell weight: 51 g Magazine capacity: 30 rounds Muzzle velocity: 700 m/s Rate of fire: 300 rpm Max range vertical: 2.500m Max range horizontal: 6.500m Greek; 13.2mm M.1930. Calibre: 13.2mm Length of Barrel; 1.650mm Elevation: -10° to +90° Traverse: 360° Weight in Action: 37.5 kg Shell Weight: AP 0.52 kg Magazine capacity; 15 x Round Strip Muzzle velocity: 800 m/s. Rate of Fire: 450 r.p.m. Max range vertical: 4.500m Max range Horizontal; 6.500m Japanese; 13.2mm Type 93. Caliber: 13.2mm Barrel Length: 1.300m Elevation; -15° to 58° Traverse: 360° Weight in Action: 42 kg Shell Weight: ? Magazine: 30 rounds Muzzle Velocity: 800 m/s Rate of Fire: 450 rpm Max range vertical: 4.500m Max range Horizontal; 6.500m Italian; Breda Modello 1931. Caliber: 13.2mm Barrel Length: ? Elevation; ? Traverse: ? Weight in Action: 47.5 kg Shell Weight: ? Magazine: 20-30 rounds Muzzle Velocity: ? Rate of Fire: 450 rpm Max range vertical: ? Max range Horizontal; ? It’s fair to say that each nation used a different type of ammo and a different type of feed (strip, belt or magazine), but things like barrel length and elevation should be similar. Can anyone help me find out if they all should be identical or not. Yan. |
sebipatru |
Posted: February 04, 2013 08:42 pm
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Fruntas Group: Members Posts: 53 Member No.: 2990 Joined: January 26, 2011 |
i've never heard about it what is your source? where it was produced? This post has been edited by sebipatru on February 04, 2013 08:48 pm |
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Radub |
Posted: February 05, 2013 08:53 am
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General de corp de armata Group: Members Posts: 1670 Member No.: 476 Joined: January 23, 2005 |
Romania used a 13.2 mm FN Browning machine gun with Hotchkiss cartridges. This was used on the Savoia bombers and the I.A.R.80-B.
Hth Radu This post has been edited by Radub on February 05, 2013 08:54 am |
YAN |
Posted: February 05, 2013 09:53 am
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Fruntas Group: Members Posts: 56 Member No.: 2942 Joined: November 15, 2010 |
Thanks Radub,
Hi Sebipatru, I got most of the data from this site, thanks to Victor of course. www.worldwar2.ro, 1.3cm A.A. Machine Gun M.1931. Yan. This post has been edited by YAN on February 05, 2013 09:54 am |
Radub |
Posted: February 05, 2013 11:13 am
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General de corp de armata Group: Members Posts: 1670 Member No.: 476 Joined: January 23, 2005 |
There was also this AA set-up: http://www.worldwar2.ro/forum/index.php?sh...pic=2509&st=30#
Most likely this is what you are looking for. HTH Radu |
YAN |
Posted: February 05, 2013 04:13 pm
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Fruntas Group: Members Posts: 56 Member No.: 2942 Joined: November 15, 2010 |
Thank you Radu, there was also a nice shot of a 20mm Flak 30 with Romanian crew in the link too.
Yan. |
sebipatru |
Posted: February 05, 2013 06:40 pm
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Fruntas Group: Members Posts: 53 Member No.: 2990 Joined: January 26, 2011 |
but this is the standard model you were talking about a romanian model or not?
yes they used a very very small number of it initially on savoia then we stripped the mg from bombers and mounted on iar 80 as far as i know |
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YAN |
Posted: February 08, 2013 10:10 am
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Fruntas Group: Members Posts: 56 Member No.: 2942 Joined: November 15, 2010 |
Hi Sebipatru, in my original post I was talking about various 13.2mm MGs used by the nations listed, so yes I was referring to the standard model used by Romania. Concerning the Romanian version, I heard they used both the single and duelled barrelled versions, but up to now I can only find photos of the duel barrelled gun.
Yan. |
sebipatru |
Posted: February 09, 2013 10:39 pm
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Fruntas Group: Members Posts: 53 Member No.: 2990 Joined: January 26, 2011 |
i understand initially i believed that it was a hmg built in Romania
also this weapon was used mounted on trucks as a mobile AA weapon i supose by tanks or cavalary This post has been edited by sebipatru on February 09, 2013 10:40 pm |