Romanian Military History Forum - Part of Romanian Army in the Second World War Website



  Reply to this topicStart new topicStart Poll

> A nice and rare surprise
Alexei2102
Posted: June 22, 2009 06:44 pm
Quote Post


General de divizie
*

Group: Members
Posts: 1352
Member No.: 888
Joined: April 24, 2006



Gents, this is indeed one of the rarest birds around. Enjoy.

Al

user posted image
PMEmail Poster
Top
REGAL UNIFORMA COLECTOR
Posted: June 24, 2009 12:00 am
Quote Post


General de brigada
*

Group: Members
Posts: 1079
Member No.: 198
Joined: January 18, 2004



Did General Field Marshall Von Mannstein sign all Krim shield awards to foreigners especially soldiers ? Wow...Carpul Tunnel. When did he have time to conduct the war ?
PMYahooMSN
Top
REGAL UNIFORMA COLECTOR
Posted: June 24, 2009 12:02 am
Quote Post


General de brigada
*

Group: Members
Posts: 1079
Member No.: 198
Joined: January 18, 2004



I also noticed no serial number. Was this normal for German shield awards ?
PMYahooMSN
Top
dragos
Posted: June 24, 2009 01:11 am
Quote Post


Admin
Group Icon

Group: Admin
Posts: 2397
Member No.: 2
Joined: February 11, 2003



Also, the spelling at that time was "Crimeii", not "Crimeei"
PMUsers WebsiteYahoo
Top
Alexei2102
Posted: June 24, 2009 04:52 am
Quote Post


General de divizie
*

Group: Members
Posts: 1352
Member No.: 888
Joined: April 24, 2006



Hi all,

Thank you for your feedback. Now, please allow me to notify you a few things:

1 - @RUC - Please find below 6 types of Krimschild citations (images are taken from Helmut Weitze's site and WAF forum, for this purpose only):

user posted image
user posted image
user posted image
user posted image
user posted image
user posted image

As you can see, neither one of them has a serial number, and they are all signed by Manstein, although the recipients are very low ranking soldiers - the signature is a facsimile.

http://www.worldwar2.ro/forum/index.php?showtopic=1820&st=30
http://www.wehrmacht-awards.com/forums/sho...ead.php?t=71392

The topic is discussed even on WAF, on another award doc, and here, in the post made by Claudiu1988 - line (6).

2. Dragos - The spelling is correct. I have checked with some documents from the era, and it is consistent. As a further proof, please find below an excerpt from an article from "Colectionarul Roman" issue 3, written by our forum friend Dragos03.

user posted image

PMEmail Poster
Top
REGAL UNIFORMA COLECTOR
Posted: June 25, 2009 02:24 pm
Quote Post


General de brigada
*

Group: Members
Posts: 1079
Member No.: 198
Joined: January 18, 2004



Alexei2102, Thank you for your input and research. It is always interesting to find German award documents to Romanians. Very few exist. I have two Romanian WW2 uniforms with Krimshields on them which I consider to be a very rare find. Photos of them were posted on this sitte 3 years ago.
PMYahooMSN
Top
Alexei2102
Posted: June 25, 2009 03:12 pm
Quote Post


General de divizie
*

Group: Members
Posts: 1352
Member No.: 888
Joined: April 24, 2006



@RUC,

Thank you for your feedback. You are dead right about the scarce resources in regards to the German awards to Romanian soldiers (docs). I personally have seen in 5 years only 4 EK2 docs, and 1 Ostmedaille.

I have for myself the EK2 and the Ostmedaille (named to a Romanian Mountain Hunter Officer), and now the Krim schild. All that I need is the EK1, and the frontzugspanges.... The DKIG, Adler Order and RK are the rarest of the rare, and there are very very few chances of obtaining one.

Al
PMEmail Poster
Top
aviatiadasenzatia
Posted: June 30, 2009 03:11 am
Quote Post


Sergent
*

Group: Members
Posts: 177
Member No.: 391
Joined: November 18, 2004



QUOTE (REGAL UNIFORMA COLECTOR @ June 24, 2009 12:00 am)
Did General Field Marshall Von Mannstein sign all Krim shield awards to foreigners especially soldiers ? Wow...Carpul Tunnel. When did he have time to conduct the war ?

Take a closer look. The "signature" is not handwriting is just a stamp which even a soldier could handle it. So the general had time for battles. That not means that is a fake! It was a common practice for lower ranks. The handwriting signature on diplomas was for high ranks.
PMEmail Poster
Top
Alexei2102
Posted: July 03, 2009 05:25 am
Quote Post


General de divizie
*

Group: Members
Posts: 1352
Member No.: 888
Joined: April 24, 2006



QUOTE (aviatiadasenzatia @ June 30, 2009 03:11 am)
QUOTE (REGAL UNIFORMA COLECTOR @ June 24, 2009 12:00 am)
Did General Field Marshall Von Mannstein sign all Krim shield awards to foreigners especially soldiers ? Wow...Carpul Tunnel. When did he have time to conduct the war ?

Take a closer look. The "signature" is not handwriting is just a stamp which even a soldier could handle it. So the general had time for battles. That not means that is a fake! It was a common practice for lower ranks. The handwriting signature on diplomas was for high ranks.

Exactly the point I wanted to prove myself.

Cheers,

Al
PMEmail Poster
Top
0 User(s) are reading this topic (0 Guests and 0 Anonymous Users)
0 Members:

Topic Options Reply to this topicStart new topicStart Poll

 






[ Script Execution time: 0.0106 ]   [ 15 queries used ]   [ GZIP Enabled ]