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Andreas von Mach |
Posted: September 16, 2003 09:28 pm
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Janes 1924 firstly listed 6 ex Russian floatting batteries on Danube. They are still listedin Jane 1934, not listed Jane 1936, later pre WW II Jane does not listed small Romanian vessels. They are still listed by Les Flottes de Combat 1940.
I have the following floatting batteries of the Russian Danube flotilla which were later taken by the Romanian forces: K2 ex N.435 landing barge built Nicolaev 255t K7 ex Romanian barge left at Danube Februar 1918 K9 ex Romanian barge left at Danube Februar 1918 K10 ex Romanian barge left at Danube Februar 1918 K11 ex Romanian barge left at Danube Februar 1918 K12 ex Romanian barge left at Danube Februar 1918 K13 ex Romanian barge left at Danube Februar 1918 K14 ex Romanian barge left at Danube Februar 1918 Perheps somebody knows origins and fates of these barges (all said to be selfpropelled) Any fates and origins ? Where they still operational during WW II ? |
Cristian Craciunoiu |
Posted: October 14, 2003 08:51 am
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Fruntas Group: Members Posts: 69 Member No.: 102 Joined: September 09, 2003 |
Al these bateries were left on the Danube by the bolshevics when they abandonned the front in 1918 and went home under the propaganda of the revolution. For a short perioe were seized by the Germans, but when the Romanian Army restart the operations under French help and guidance, they were all rearmed. The Peace Conference and Treaty of Versailles gave them to Romania.
There were two types, designed by Russian Naval Engineers. One of selfpropelled and had two guns Obuhov of 120 mm and the second type had only one gun Obuhov of 155 mm and was not self propelled. On the 23rd of June 1941, Soviet bombers destroyed the last 4 in use at Pardina. |
Th. Dorgeist |
Posted: October 14, 2003 09:20 am
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Hello Cristian,
which identifications carried the units sunk at the 23.Juni 1941 with Pardina? Greetings Theo Hallo Cristian, welche Kennungen trugen die am 23.Juni 1941 bei Pardina versenkten Einheiten ? Grüße Theo |
Cristian Craciunoiu |
Posted: October 16, 2003 02:15 pm
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I must look in the archieves. Wait a few weeks.
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PT Dockyard |
Posted: October 17, 2003 04:59 pm
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Was the self propelled one a former "Russad" class landing barge? Also, can anyone point me to photos or drawings of any of these craft?
Dave G |
Andreas von Mach |
Posted: October 17, 2003 09:06 pm
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Caporal Group: Members Posts: 138 Member No.: 84 Joined: August 19, 2003 |
Yes they are, there was an article on Russian landing barges in SUDOSTROENIE some time ago (in 1980s ??).
I could send you a photo from SUDOSTROENE No.6/1990 oof-line |
Andreas von Mach |
Posted: October 18, 2003 12:58 am
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see:
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Cristian Craciunoiu |
Posted: October 18, 2003 10:53 am
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Before the end of the First WW on the Danube, in 1917 there were abandonned by the retreating Russian forces three types of bages.
One was selpropelled with two turrets of 120 mm, both ahead the command and funnel. I have a picture on one of them in front of Galatzi, under Romanian flag. A second type was a barge with only one gun of 155 mm Obuhov. I have a very good picture aboard with the gun and crew in 1928 at Cernavoda. Besides these two artillery barges there was a landing craft as the one in the drawing you have here, but with some alterations as a picture of 1921 shows. |
PT Dockyard |
Posted: October 21, 2003 01:58 am
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Soldat Group: Members Posts: 20 Member No.: 76 Joined: August 08, 2003 |
Hey, the picture of the Russad was great..
I would like to see the armed barges described in the last post.... Dave |
Andreas von Mach |
Posted: October 21, 2003 11:26 pm
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Les Flottes de ombat listed the barges till 150 (sic!!)
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Cristian Craciunoiu |
Posted: October 22, 2003 08:40 am
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Dave,
Give me your private e mail to send you some pictures of those barges you want. Cristian |
Andreas von Mach |
Posted: October 22, 2003 08:52 am
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I will be of course also pleased to received this photos :wink:
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Cristian Craciunoiu |
Posted: October 23, 2003 06:45 am
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You will.
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PT Dockyard |
Posted: October 23, 2003 11:43 pm
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My e-mail should be in the profile but..
ptdockyard@yahoo.com THX |
Maks_russian |
Posted: July 17, 2006 08:11 pm
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Russian floatting batteries in their natural purpose-landing craft vessels
named 'Bolinder's (name of motor) have ONE!!! 152mm kane(Obuhovskii zavod) or 203mm guns!I have reconstruction pics of they(from books Russian river flotilias,Enciklopedia of river ships,Russian imperial navy) I have big interes of pics of bolinder armed two guns send me in e-mail please! |
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