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Heide |
Posted: April 24, 2009 03:46 pm
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Soldat Group: Members Posts: 7 Member No.: 2394 Joined: February 18, 2009 |
Hello guys , i'm new here and i'd like a little help with some Cartridges the markings on them are :
P.A.M- P.A.B- H- K&C- This post has been edited by Heide on April 24, 2009 03:50 pm |
ANDI |
Posted: April 24, 2009 05:13 pm
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Plutonier major Group: Members Posts: 332 Member No.: 674 Joined: September 19, 2005 |
Hmm, I reckon you have some m93 cartridges there...
P.A.M. and P.A.B. are Romanian codes. P.A.B. comes from Pumitra Societate Anonima din Brasov but unfortunately I don't know exactly what P.A.M stands for. H is from Hirtenberger Patronenfabrik - Austria K&C is from Patronenfabrik Keller & Co - Austria This post has been edited by ANDI on April 24, 2009 05:13 pm |
mihnea |
Posted: April 24, 2009 06:38 pm
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Capitan Group: Members Posts: 682 Member No.: 679 Joined: September 26, 2005 |
"Pumitra Societate Anonima din Brasov" lol . On romanian cases PA or P.A. always stands for Pirotehnia Armatei the other letter marks the producer of the brass as Romania didn't produce brass until late in the inter war era. The only brass manufacturer known, by me, is "Compagnie Francaise des Muntions" and the cases made with brass from them are marked P.A.C. Unfortunately I don't know what the other letters stand for, I have encountered on romanian M93 cases (6,5x53r) the following markings PAB, P.A.I., P.A.R., PAH, P.A.M., P.A.F., PAA .
Oh I have the info on the markings from "Descrierea conservarea si ingrijirea Armei Md.1893 si revolverului Md.1896" published in 1906 This post has been edited by mihnea on April 24, 2009 06:40 pm |
Heide |
Posted: April 25, 2009 10:30 am
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Soldat Group: Members Posts: 7 Member No.: 2394 Joined: February 18, 2009 |
Ok, thx a lot guys
This post has been edited by Heide on April 25, 2009 10:30 am |
Manu |
Posted: April 25, 2009 01:13 pm
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Soldat Group: Members Posts: 10 Member No.: 2335 Joined: December 20, 2008 |
Hello all,I also have a question about a cartridge marking if someone can help, it is on a m95 cartridge I found, the marking is B.N.F or B NF because there is a little space between the B and the N, it was made in 1915 in the IVth month,thanks |
Mannlicher |
Posted: April 27, 2009 05:51 am
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Fruntas Group: Members Posts: 89 Member No.: 998 Joined: July 19, 2006 |
@ Manu:
Berndorfer Metallwarenfabrik, Berndorf. Used from 1903 to 1918. If it looks like this: Picture taken from municion.org This post has been edited by Mannlicher on April 27, 2009 05:53 am -------------------- ®
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Manu |
Posted: April 27, 2009 09:31 am
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Soldat Group: Members Posts: 10 Member No.: 2335 Joined: December 20, 2008 |
That's the one , thanks 4 the help Mannlicher, all the best. |
Cristian |
Posted: June 05, 2009 06:05 am
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Plutonier Group: Members Posts: 250 Member No.: 415 Joined: December 10, 2004 |
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C-2 |
Posted: June 05, 2009 07:10 pm
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General Medic Group: Hosts Posts: 2453 Member No.: 19 Joined: June 23, 2003 |
Wow!
Can you explain all the elements in the photo? |
Hadrian |
Posted: June 06, 2009 10:15 am
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Sergent major Group: Members Posts: 245 Member No.: 875 Joined: April 09, 2006 |
In the midle is presented how the ball and the tube of the cartridge are formed (trough plastic deformation) from pieces of metal, both outer view and in section. Ity starts from left, process steps go to right.
Under them, there are percussion caps for cartridges, process steps. Over the presentation of cartridge, the steps for making rifle magazines from metal sheets. Than there are 2 finished and loaded magazines, left and right. Over them, initial metal sheet right, and left whats left after the magazine was taken out. On the edges, going around, balls, cartridge tubes, bullet cores. |