Any Romanians after 1944 on Axis Side?

hi, after the 1944 changing sides of Romania, did any elemnts of the Romanian armed forces continue to fight on the side of the Axis against the Soviets? (other than Romanian Waffen-SS).

thanks in advance,

K

I don't know much about the subject but I can give you a few leads.

first there were the "forest brothers", I guess civilian guerillas fighting the communist government. also, the iron guard members who were housed Dachau camp and several officers who went to study in Germany (but were stuck there when Romania changed sides) constitued the "national army" and received a few months of training before sent to fight in Szczecin and others parts of Pomerania (Poland). I think they were destroyed there.

I mentioned in another topic about Romanian soldiers who were in Luftwaffe, in Germany, in April 1945.

thanks for the info. However, is there any information on this not well known "national army"? thanks.

K

The partisans movement, hiding in forests and mountains, was first of all anti-Communist. This does not imply it was also pro-German, or pro-Fascist. Also, this does not mean that all groups were under a centralized command, like an underground "army". Most were on their own.
I think there was a topic dedicated to this. Something neglected by people writing history in West (U.S., Europe) is the fact that the active anti-Communist groups kept fighting in Romania until early 1960's. This is a kind of record, among the Eastern European socialist states.

This post has been edited by Florin on August 30, 2006 05:49 pm

According to the National Council for the Study of the Securitate Archives, there were 19 resistance centers, and at least 1,196 resistance groups were active between 1945-1959, each resistance group numbering 20 to 120 fighters. These groups were aided by thousands of other persons organised in networks around the mountains, mostly from the local villages.

http://www.romfest.org/rost/iun-iul2006/og...u-voievod.shtml

According to the National Council for the Study of the Securitate Archives, there were 19 resistance centers, and at least 1,196 resistance groups were active between 1945-1959, each resistance group numbering 20 to 120 fighters. These groups were aided by thousands of other persons organised in networks around the mountains, mostly from the local villages.

http://www.romfest.org/rost/iun-iul2006/og...u-voievod.shtml

Imperialist, the post-WWII actions of the anti-communist groups in the mountains and the WWII so-called "Romanian National Army" created by Himmler from members of the Iron Guard are two different things.

Helmut, here is the link to another thread mentioning the "Romanian National Army": The “thousand-man-action”.

And another thread on the Romanians trapped by 23 August events in the Third Reich.

You may find useful the Search function of this forum.

Here is an older thread, dedicated to the Romanian post war resistance movements.

thanks!

K

There was also a German espionage network, using ethnic Germans who were Romanian citizens. This network (not only from Romania; the German network from all Eastern Europe) was valuable enough to be re-activated against the Soviets/Communists when some high rank Germans enrolled to work for the benefit of the Americans. However, these Germans used their new role to portrait a Soviet Union more powerful than it actually was, to scare the Americans into action, and also to underline their vital usefullness for the Americans.

The Americans accepted the deal with Satan for a simple reason. When relations between America and Soviet Union started to cool toward freezing point, the Americans realized that while NKVD had an excellent spy network in West, the leaders of America were "blind" about what was happening beyond their occupation zones.

This post has been edited by Florin on August 31, 2006 02:54 pm

With regards the quote:

In Men at Arms a Osprey Publication, entitled:

Germany's Easrtern Front Allies (2) Baltic Forces, page 40:"The death of Josef Stalin in March 1953 brought a comparative relaxation of Soviet oppression. However, when the West refused to intervene in the Hingarian Revolution of October 1955 most survicing Baltic guerrillas reluctantly understood that further armed resistance was hopeless; they accepted a Soviet amnesty in 1955 and returned to their homes, although isolated guerrilla incidents were reported as late as 1978.

Are there any books in English detailing the resistence of groups oppossed to the Communist Regime in Romania? and if so could you post the titles,

Thank you, Kevin in Deva.

Kevin, there already is a thread on this topic: Romanian post war resistance movements (see above).

Hallo Carol I, Many thanks for the lead to the thread, Kevin in Deva.

Yes, obviously, sorry for that. I saw "national army" in Helmut Von Moltke's post and instinctively connected it to what I posted, in my view the thing I posted was the "national army" that resisted against the communists, not the Dachau dudes.

take care