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Posted: March 30, 2012 07:16 am
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Thank you C2 and muggs, but as I can see, Hornig is credited with only one victory, so... he cannot be the winner! biggrin.gif
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Posted: March 30, 2012 10:02 am
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That's the one.
I found a paper writen by Dicesare 10 years ago with the corect spelling.
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Posted: March 30, 2012 10:38 am
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I had google Hornik and there's nothing about a ww2 pilot with this name
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Posted: March 30, 2012 05:41 pm
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I found after a short search the small paper written 10 yars ago by Mr Dicesare:


Major Handrick fighter pilot Me 109 E
Grup comander captain Harinik-a very famous Austrian pilot those days.
Leutenant Von Boremski (dies 1962 car accident in Hamburg-I found this with the help of a german guy).
And captain Wolf Dietrich Wilke ex comador Tuzov airfield.

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Posted: March 31, 2012 02:28 am
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Question from a non-historian: when they made at Brasov the Me-109 under license, did they built the in-line engine, too?

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Posted: March 31, 2012 05:45 am
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As far as I ,as a non historian,know,the engines were "made in germany",but rebuilding them was a job done in romania.
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Posted: March 31, 2012 08:37 am
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The engines were made by Daimler Benz in their own workshops and no Messerschmitt factory made them on-site. (think of "Dacia cu motor Renault" wink.gif ) Many parts for the Romanian-made Messeschmitts were brought in from Germany, engines, propellers, landing gears, instruments, jigs, even the paint. The main part of the work done in Romania was panel-beating and assembly. Messerschmitts were built like that everywhere, no factory made everything - production was "split" between a number of "satelite" workshops, one made wings, one made fuselages, one made tailplanes, and then they were brought together. The idea was that no enemy attack could stop production. If a wing factory was hit, another was available elsewhere. I.A.R. also had "satelite" workshops in Ghimbav, Caransebes, Arpasu, etc. After the Brasov factory was disabled by the USAF bombing in the late-spring of 1944, the Messerschmitts were assembled in Caransebes.
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Posted: April 05, 2012 06:51 am
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another small part from my book, this week in OM

http://www.presamil.ro/OM/2012/13/ziar%2013.pdf



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Posted: April 05, 2012 02:03 pm
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QUOTE (Radub @ March 31, 2012 03:37 am)
The engines were made by Daimler Benz in their own workshops and no Messerschmitt factory made them on-site. .................... I.A.R. also had "satelite" workshops in Ghimbav, Caransebes, Arpasu, etc. After the Brasov factory was disabled by the USAF bombing in the late-spring of 1944, the Messerschmitts were assembled in Caransebes.
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Thank you, "Radub", for the answers.
When I asked if the engines were made in Romania, I was thinking about how many Me-109 was able to manufacture I.A.R. Brasov after 23 August 1944.
A manufacturing plant always have spare parts in storage, the problem is how many. And it does not matter how small the part is, the first missing stops everything.

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Posted: April 05, 2012 05:13 pm
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Is there any chance it will be released before 20 April ?
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Posted: April 05, 2012 06:34 pm
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No, I think will be released during the last days of April...
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Posted: April 05, 2012 06:50 pm
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QUOTE (Florin @ April 05, 2012 02:03 pm)
QUOTE (Radub @ March 31, 2012 03:37 am)
The engines were made by Daimler Benz in their own workshops and no Messerschmitt factory made them on-site. .................... I.A.R. also had "satelite" workshops in Ghimbav, Caransebes, Arpasu, etc. After the Brasov factory was disabled by the USAF bombing in the late-spring of 1944, the Messerschmitts were assembled in Caransebes.
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Thank you, "Radub", for the answers.
When I asked if the engines were made in Romania, I was thinking about how many Me-109 was able to manufacture I.A.R. Brasov after 23 August 1944.
A manufacturing plant always have spare parts in storage, the problem is how many. And it does not matter how small the part is, the first missing stops everything.

I do not think is fair to hijack this thread. In as far as I can see, this book deals with Messerschmitt Bf.109E, which was never built in Romania. We should open a separate thread about the I.A.R.-built Messerschmitts - the subject can become quite big quite fast.
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Posted: April 05, 2012 07:46 pm
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QUOTE (Victor @ April 05, 2012 05:13 pm)
Is there any chance it will be released before 20 April ?

Adolf's birthday?
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Posted: April 12, 2012 03:54 am
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QUOTE (C-2 @ April 05, 2012 07:46 pm)
QUOTE (Victor @ April 05, 2012 05:13 pm)
Is there any chance it will be released before 20 April ?

Adolf's birthday?

No, Romanian King Carol I's birthsday, exactly 50 years earlier.

The third and the last part presented in OM here www.presamil.ro/OM/2012/14/ziar 14.pdf

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Posted: April 12, 2012 03:56 am
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www.presamil.ro/OM.htm

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