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Florin |
Posted: April 10, 2013 01:28 am
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General de corp de armata Group: Members Posts: 1879 Member No.: 17 Joined: June 22, 2003 |
You can see the 8 story building far away, in this photo. It is the only "new style" building in that photo, excepting the furthermost building in the right. I am confident that it still standing, and it can offer a clue about location. I don't think it was in "Piata Unirii / Union Square". And my personal comment: in those days of August most civilians that were not previously in military service did not see "the grand picture" and our fate, while most veterans that happened to be back to their families (like those withdrawing from Crimea - they did not see action until August) immediately understood that we are doomed. My grandfather said in the evening of August 23: "Don't be glad. This is not the end of the war. And we will become Communist." (Yes, there were adult men really thinking that the war will end in those days of August...) This post has been edited by Florin on April 10, 2013 01:41 am |
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dragos |
Posted: April 10, 2013 06:24 am
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The most obvious clue is the Bazaca market, so this was Bazaca street. See http://es-la.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=155085624526844
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Alexandru C. |
Posted: April 10, 2013 07:58 am
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Caporal Group: Members Posts: 116 Member No.: 3326 Joined: June 20, 2012 |
Interesting! Something here too, about Bazaca:
http://www.rezistenta.net/2009/10/strada-b...arul-uitat.html |
Petre |
Posted: April 10, 2013 11:00 am
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Locotenent colonel Group: Members Posts: 894 Member No.: 2434 Joined: March 24, 2009 |
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Red....jpg?uselang=ru Soldiers of 703.Rifle Regiment(?) enter Bucharest http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:IIC....jpg?uselang=ru 30-31 Aug. Troops from 6.Tank Army - 5.Mech.Corps, - 18.Tk.Corps .... - 6. Independent Motocycle Reg. http://army.lv/eng/image_descr.php?id=12918&s=2607&pid=0 and 53.Army ... - 375. Rifle Div ... entered Bucharest, then 1.Ro.Volunteers Inf.Div. named TV. This post has been edited by Petre on April 10, 2013 11:03 am |
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MMM |
Posted: April 10, 2013 08:19 pm
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General de divizie Group: Members Posts: 1463 Member No.: 2323 Joined: December 02, 2008 |
Again, thanks! Hopefully, the Russian side of Wiki has some contact with the truth...
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_Vik |
Posted: April 10, 2013 08:43 pm
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Fruntas Group: Members Posts: 54 Member No.: 3266 Joined: February 24, 2012 |
Commander 703 regiment "podpolkovnik"Nesteruk Dmitri Timofeevich commited suicide 31.08.1941. OBD-memorial.ru
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Petre |
Posted: April 11, 2013 07:25 am
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Locotenent colonel Group: Members Posts: 894 Member No.: 2434 Joined: March 24, 2009 |
It was not only Wiki, but many Ru. sites
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Victor |
Posted: April 11, 2013 09:05 am
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What is the link to the topic? Did this happen in Bucharest ? |
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Petre |
Posted: April 11, 2013 12:31 pm
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On Dec.26, 1944 The 703.Inf.Reg. (of 233.Div. of 57.Army) (pod-polkovnik M.D.Shumilin) heavy fought with 2.Brig./1.Cossak Div. of the German Army at Pitomača and Virovititsa in Yugoslavija. The cossaks almost destroyed this unit.
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Taz1 |
Posted: April 11, 2013 01:28 pm
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Caporal Group: Members Posts: 107 Member No.: 2414 Joined: March 05, 2009 |
An american motorcycle in Bucharest on 30.08.44 from the site :Fototeca online a comunismului romanesccota 15/1944 : http://fototeca.iiccr.ro/picdetails.php?picid=31876X6X277 maybe from the 6 independent motorcycle regiment ?
A family friend was eye withness of the entry of soviets in bucharest, soilders and vehicles full of dust. Most of the people that were on the streets trisd to be ass frendly as posible with the russians for fear and not because they had a strong simpaty for the soviets. Regarding the data in wich soviet enter Bucharest only on 30/31 august 1944 there were some problems that soviet had to overcame especially the 6. tank army equiped largely with american sherman tanks. They had to stop first time in Roman for lack of fuel - they found in town some aviation fuel and they made a cocktail with regular gas but this overheated the engines and they had to stop frequently, and when they were close to bucharest sherman tanks trucks became hackneyed ( because it were made out of rubber ) . This stoped most of their tanks advancing towards Bucharest for several days, new rubber trucks had to be flown from Russia. A contratack then wold be caught the soviets totally of guard, but after 23.08.44 it is fictional history . |
_Vik |
Posted: April 11, 2013 04:56 pm
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Fruntas Group: Members Posts: 54 Member No.: 3266 Joined: February 24, 2012 |
They could stay at home...maybe someone forced them to go outside?When Romanians entered into Odessa-everyone stayed at home. This post has been edited by _Vik on April 11, 2013 05:05 pm |
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MMM |
Posted: April 11, 2013 07:42 pm
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General de divizie Group: Members Posts: 1463 Member No.: 2323 Joined: December 02, 2008 |
Romanians entered Odessa after a siege of how many months, Vik? -------------------- M
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dragos |
Posted: April 12, 2013 07:22 am
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There were some people genuinely friendly towards the Red Army troops entering Bucharest, such as Nicolae Ceausescu |
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Florin |
Posted: April 14, 2013 01:47 am
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In the first second my eyes focused on Ceausescu's hand gripping that truck rail, and I fought: "Why is that guy pointing a gun toward his temple?" (exactly in the middle of the photo). Do you see the suit of the guy near him? It looks like an "enthusiast" from the crowd had thrown something. Yes, there were people with leftist simpathy among the factory and workshop workers, and even among people owning their little repair shops. But they were not as many and as organized as in the countless fictional movies from the 1950's...1980's era. That only real movie with few seconds showing a factory worker pointing a target to the soldier shoulder on shoulder to him, in August 1944, became a kind of landmark not to be missed by any director of documentaries in the Communist era, and was used by Communist propaganda to say that the workers of Bucharest really helped in active fight alongside the Romanian soldiers located in and around Bucharest. Eventually they went with audacity that far that they claimed that the regular Army helped them. The message of many artistic/fictional movies was the same. And in those days you could not find in store lemons to use them as anti-vomitive... This post has been edited by Florin on April 14, 2013 01:56 am |
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Florin |
Posted: April 14, 2013 02:48 pm
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General de corp de armata Group: Members Posts: 1879 Member No.: 17 Joined: June 22, 2003 |
Moreover, the Romanians entering into Odessa in 1941 were very clearly THE ENEMY. The first Soviets arrived in Bucharest after several days of fighting between Germans and Romanians, and in that process the Germans bombed the Royal Palace, the National Theater etc. It was not unrealistic for the common guy of Bucharest to assume that a German counterattack may hold Bucharest again. So I would not be surprised that for many inhabitants of Bucharest the sight of the first Soviet columns was a relief. This post has been edited by Florin on April 14, 2013 02:50 pm |
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