1878 Romania

Would someone care to translate it, as I currently don't have the time? Thanks.

Gen. Dénes

Great info. The "alternative" schoolbook we used in the 12th grade was (maybe not surprisingly?) edited by ... Humanitas. No wonder its so unclear, I'd dare to say...

Yes, it seems that there is the confusion between the internal use and of "Romania" and the external recognition.
Though internally the term started to be used officially, it seems it still had to be recognised externally.
And apparently that recognition came to coincide with the full gain of independence.


Here is what historian Dan Berindei said about it in his introduction to "Independenta Romaniei. Documente" :

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Would someone care to translate it, as I currently don't have the time? Thanks.

Gen. Dénes

The term of Romania, which had been frequently used in the 1850s, but unofficially, in the context of a state spreading from the Black Sea to the Carpathians, had become now the current name of the United Principalities and, starting from 1862, it was used in the official country's documents.

I would still say that 1862 is the year when the name 'Romania' started to be used officially (see Dénes' post).

I would still say that 1862 is the year when the name 'Romania' started to be used officially (see Dénes' post).

Yes, I saw last night an interesting show on OTV with very important historians.
Mircea Dogaru said something about December 1861 relating to the name of Romania.

I have agreed with Denes, as he had the better info on this.
I mentioned the 1866 Constitution as the best and safest proof, until further contributions, that the term Romania did afterall appear before 1877/78.

Anyways, I'm surprised I did not find that info in the history school manual I still have since the 12th grade.
Maybe we should open a new discussion about the state of Romanian education in another section.
At least with romanian history part. From what I know in communist times the history of Romania was taught in 2 school years, the 11th and the 12th grade. Now it has been reduced to the 12th grade, and obviously the level of info has been scaled down only to the essential. Also history is not compulsory at the BAC, at least the last time I checked, a couple of years ago. So students simply ignored it and focused on their selected subjects for BAC. This combined with increasingly weaker teachers (with not enough stature to impose themselves on unruly students in the last year of highschool) is a disaster for teaching romanian history.
Apart from those who actually apply to the History Faculty, I think the next generation is pretty history-chalanged.

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Here is what I found on this issue:

Source: http://www.stampdomain.com/country/romania/display.htm

This does not contradict what I have said. Indeed, the first stamps of Romania were issued on 26 June 1862, but - not unusual for that time - they did not have any inscription to identify the issuer (see below).


Source: histoirepostale.net

The inscription Poşta Română (Romanian Post) appeared on the stamps issued on 21 January 1865 with the effigy of Prince Cuza.


Source: S.P.Stamps

The inscription was maintained through the first years of Prince Carol I reign, being replaced by 'Romania' only on 18 October 1872.


Source: Romanian Philatelic Federation

It should also be mentioned that the first stamps issued in Romania were in fact the 'Auroch Heads' put into circulation by the postal administration of the Principality of Moldavia on 22 July 1858. The second issue of 'Auroch Heads' (of 1 Novemver 1858) were sold up until 5 May 1862, so it may truly be said that they were Romanian stamps as well.


Source: Romanian Philatelic Federation