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Posted: December 16, 2011 08:30 am
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Anyone had more details about this school. As you can see in the picture it looks like a german panzer school in a romanian unit called "Cazarma Marasti".
Could be the one from Mihai Bravu ( Dadilov) or unknown school in the Marasti village?

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Posted: December 16, 2011 09:16 am
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I asked Mr Cojocea about the photo.
He said "no way".
It must be in propaganga purpose.
In Marasti village there was nothing and in Dadilov there was an training camp.
A tank school in Romania existed only after the war.

I'll show him the photo next week.

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Posted: December 16, 2011 10:50 am
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I asked Mr Cojocea about the photo.
He said "no way".
It must be in propaganga purpose.
In Marasti village there was nothing and in Dadilov there was an training camp.
A tank school in Romania existed only after the war.

I'll show him the photo next week.


Ok, posible propaganda but with what purpose.

And the name "Marasti" could be a simbolic name for the unit ( not necesary a location) Could be more units with names like Marasti, Marasesti, Oituz ( from WW1 renown battles place)

We know that a romanian tank school will be after the war established at Roman.
But a german one in 41-44 in Romania ?

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Posted: December 16, 2011 12:29 pm
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I have another photo of the same gate, with the same title.
I don't believe it's a propaganda (i.e., fake) photo.

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Posted: December 16, 2011 12:35 pm
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I have another photo of the same gate, with the same title.
I don't believe it's a propaganda (i.e., fake) photo.

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What is strange in the picture, is the expensive but beautifull construction of the gate compared to cheap and ugly wood fences of the unit.

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Posted: December 16, 2011 06:35 pm
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Cojocea is to the tanks what Dicesare and Dobran are to the ARR.
All togheter I mean...
I'll show him the photo,but if there was such a school he'd know by sure.

About the fence;I never saw an important military unit with such a lausy one.
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Posted: December 16, 2011 07:43 pm
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QUOTE (C-2 @ December 16, 2011 06:35 pm)
Cojocea is to the tanks what Dicesare and Dobran are to the ARR.
All togheter I mean...
I'll show him the photo,but if there was such a school he'd know by sure.

About the fence;I never saw an important military unit with such a lausy one.

Everybody can be wrong, even Cojocea.

Check out the link, and see for yourself.

http://www.lexikon-der-wehrmacht.de/Gliede...sionen/13PD.htm
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Posted: December 16, 2011 07:45 pm
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QUOTE (C-2 @ December 16, 2011 08:35 pm)
About the fence;I never saw an important military unit with such a lausy one.

QUOTE ("Cantacuzino")
What is strange in the picture, is the expensive but beautifull construction of the gate compared to cheap and ugly wood fences of the unit.


When recruits were driving the tank into the fence, it should have been be the most inexpensive one and easy to replace. biggrin.gif
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Posted: December 16, 2011 09:04 pm
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QUOTE (Alexei2102 @ December 16, 2011 07:43 pm)
QUOTE (C-2 @ December 16, 2011 06:35 pm)
Cojocea is to the tanks what Dicesare and Dobran are to the ARR.
All togheter I mean...
I'll show him the photo,but if there was such a school he'd know by sure.

About the fence;I never saw an important military unit with such a lausy one.

Everybody can be wrong, even Cojocea.

Check out the link, and see for yourself.

http://www.lexikon-der-wehrmacht.de/Gliede...sionen/13PD.htm

My German is not good enought .
Can you write in a few words the content?
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Posted: December 16, 2011 09:09 pm
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Looks like the the actual location is Targoviste, here's a post detailing a picture taken in the same location ( photo is offline )


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Hello I have this photo depicting the barracks of the "panzer lehr batallion".
The caption on the back reads in German "our barracks in TARGOVISTE (a town in Romania).
It came with a long barrelled Mark 3 photo and a photo of a large unit of german panzer men parading on the barracks square.
I am just wondering what German panzer unit was stationed there during the war. From my own research I can only establish that TARGOVISTE was a base for Romanian motorised units. (probably with German instructors ?)
The troops at the gates of this barracks are in Wehrmacht uniform. The barracks name is CAZARMA MARASTI.
Note that the tank graphic on top of the gates appears to be a Romanian T4 tank.


Targoviste is covered by norc street view so if someone is familiar with the city and recognizes the gate we can see in what shape it is now ( if it survived )
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Posted: December 17, 2011 12:13 pm
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My German is not good enought .
Can you write in a few words the content?

The text said :
First Commitment and subordination:
The 13th Panzer Division was established on 11 October 1940. The division was created as a training unit from the 13th Infantry Division (Motorized), for use as training unit in Romania. From the table it seems that this division stationed in Romania from november 1940 till january 1941 (maybe even more!).
From 28 September 1940 the Panzer-Regiment 4 was under the 13th Panzer Division command, and was on 2 November 1940 as a teaching-tank regiment nr. 4 moved to Romania.
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Posted: December 17, 2011 02:03 pm
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So it was something temporary.
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Posted: December 17, 2011 05:46 pm
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There already were some discussions about these German units in Romania:
Wehrmacht in Romania

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Posted: December 17, 2011 06:13 pm
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QUOTE (C-2 @ December 17, 2011 04:03 pm)
So it was something temporary.

Until the start of Barbarossa, when the unit was integrated in XXXXVIII. Armeekorps / Panzergruppe 1 / Heeresgruppe Sud
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Posted: December 22, 2011 09:36 pm
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So , mister Cojocea is still alive that,s a very good news and a real privilege . Wish I can meet him.
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