Romanian post war resistance movements

You misunderstand me. I said, like in ww2, in Cold War the same, you must weaken the enemy and help the ones who fight against him. That is all.

...and so I did!
Here's the problem, now:
1. Why bring into discussion the "wartime" communists? (presuming that by "wartime" one should understand only the pre-23.08.1944 period, although one knows that WW2 ended slightly later... So WHERE FROM THE ILLEGAL COMMUNISTS?
2.

I think I already made my point saying

, to which, again, you did NOT reply.
3.

Well, I think I have just underlined a couple of similarities, although in general terms I tend to disagree also with Contras' idea...
4.

That doesn't necesarily mean a similarity between the French Resistance and the Romania's movement. And from here to "Haiduci" and other things, there's a distance which neither Contras, nor I were prepared to cross. WHY WOULD YOU?
Finally, your way of exagerating (

) being proved wrong, I should like to express my wish not to be offended by your answer. Although I know this would be too much of a request, I feel bound to ask it!

There was only one "resistance movement" in Romania that played a successful part in overthrowing the government with help from a foreign nation, and then helped the foreign nation to come over and impose their will in Romania. You know who they are.
On that criteria, this "resistance movement" is a mirror image of the "French resistance".
Hate it as much as you wish, it is the truth.
"Resistenta din munti", brave as they were, failed in almost every respect and achieved nothing of substance. On that criteria alone they have nothing in common with the French resistance.
So, that was my point. As for your aggressive tone, I am still not interested in a row with you. If you want to have a "discussion", fine by me.
Radu

There is not "one" resistance movement, because not even the "historical parties" had the same goals, let alone the communist party. Or do you think that Maniu&co. figured out the republic before 23.08?
Re: "aggresive tone" - of course, this is your only answer to my questions!
I appreciate the lack of slander, anyway...

I cannot see how the "historical parties" even relate to this.
Have no more to say on this. I am not trying to be "controversial", I am just pointing out facts.
Radu

You mean the "historical parties" did not have a role in the 23.08 coup? Weren't they a part of the "resistance" movement between late 1940 and august 1944?
One straight answer would do.

In as far as I know the "historical parties" did not have support from USSR and did not remain in power with supprt from USSR for the following few decades. The communists did. Similarly, the French resistance had support from Britain, played a major role in bringing the British forces into France and then they formed the government (De Gaulle, etc). There are obvious parallels in aim, support, methodology, outcome.

"Rezistenta din munti" did none of that.

Radu

This post has been edited by Radub on July 06, 2013 06:50 am

Keeping on with this does not make you right. Clearly, mixing the 23.08.1944 with 30.12.1947 will not make "rezistenţa din munţi" look more or less like the French Resistance - which, BTW, was supported by the communists. Before 22.06.1941 there was no French Resistance whatsoever.

I made my point. I tried to explain it. You are free to take it or leave it. I honestly cannot explain it more clearly.
In my opinion, "Rezistenta din munti" has little in common with the French Resistance and MUST NOT be compared to the French resistance. Yes, I am aware that for some Romanians, a Romanian thing can be "great" ONLY if it is "likened" to a foreign thing. To me that is stupid. It just reveals immaturity and insecurity. In my opinion, "Rezistenta din munti" was an original form of resistance. Why cannot we just have a thing that is just "ours" and trade-mark it as 100% our own? Here we have a clear example of original and pure Romanian thing and you are doing your best to dilute it and belittle it by effectively saying: "meh, nothing new... The French did that first ages ago! Epic fail."
That is my point.
Radu

I suppose you aren't necesary writing about me...
Read "entirely" my post above:

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