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tudorjuc |
Posted: November 10, 2011 10:29 am
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hello again forum
![]() http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/194/dsc09370ut.jpg/ http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/198/dsc09371r.jpg/ This post has been edited by tudorjuc on November 10, 2011 10:30 am |
New Connaught Ranger |
Posted: November 10, 2011 04:31 pm
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Can you add better pictures front and back, hinge assembly and catch area,
(high definition preferably,) also measurements from side to side, top to bottom, and the weight of the item. Thank you. Kevin in Deva. ![]() |
tudorjuc |
Posted: November 10, 2011 05:19 pm
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WILL DO AS FAST AS I CAN
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tudorjuc |
Posted: November 10, 2011 05:34 pm
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http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/715/dsc09385e.jpg/
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/836/dsc09391j.jpg/ http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/339/dsc09388j.jpg/ http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/508/dsc09389f.jpg/ ok this is the only way i know how to uplowd images if you can help me in that regard . tanks . I measured it from head to tow it has 4,5 cm both sides .the weight i cant tell you now , i don't have a scale . ![]() This post has been edited by tudorjuc on November 10, 2011 05:51 pm |
New Connaught Ranger |
Posted: November 11, 2011 09:31 am
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Hallo tudoejuc
I am sorry to say, but in my honest opinion its a modern fake/repro ![]() Points to note:- ![]() Uploaded with ImageShack.us Front. Original Crosses both I & II Class were 44mm in diameter. 1. The date "1939" is at an off set angle, something that would never have been tolerated by the quality control inspectors during 1939.45 period in Nazi Germany. 2. The black colour of the inner cross appears to have been applied after the cross was assembled, again detracting from known original models, makers of reproductions have never been able to copy the original method of applying this black colour. 3. The tacky rough looking appearance of the black application, originals were a silky smooth matt black appearance being of a oiled lacquer which was applied then oven baked in a process known as stove enameling, this process being applied BEFORE the centre was inserted into the Neusilber / Nickel Silver rim which after assembly was burnished by hand polishing and a protective transparent lauquer applied. 4. I doubt that its real silver as one would expect more of a dark to black patina typical of aged silver to be present. 5. Despite there being well over 30 different manufactures for the WW2 Iron Cross, ALL of these firms used master dies produced by just one company Steinhauer & Lück of Lüdenscheid, whose senior engraver, Hans Escher, designed the 1939 version of the Iron Cross. This ensured that ALL genuine pieces, irrespective of maker conformed to a single ideal, with perfect detailing and a "high" swastika which was level with the crisply beaded rim. ![]() Uploaded with ImageShack.us Rear 1. Style of the pin does not quite match up to original period pieces. 2. The "C" catch is poorly fixed to the backing plate. 3. Original pieces of the first class had the plain reverse sandblasted and matt silver plated. I hope you did not pay to big a price for this piece. ![]() Kevin in Deva. |
tudorjuc |
Posted: November 11, 2011 10:26 am
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OK first I'm forever grateful that i got such a well proved opinion , the "problems " that i didn't see like the year alignment , really established a doubt in my mind concerning this items originality . the other good point i think it's the back of the piece and it's finish , i know it had to be sand blasted and silver plated . the C hinge , i think it's not a telltale of it being a reproduction , i saw many like it in on crosses that are 100% original items . the good thing is that if i know for sure that the piece is a fake i can get my money back or exchange it for another one
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Alexei2102 |
Posted: November 11, 2011 10:58 am
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Weitze has plenty of crosses on sale right now.
Al www.weitze.net |
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