![>](style_images/1/nav_m.gif)
![]() | ![]() | ![]() |
Romanian Army in the Second World War · Forum Guidelines |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Welcome Guest ( Log In | Register ) | Resend Validation Email |
![]() ![]() ![]() |
Andreas von Mach |
Posted: December 23, 2006 08:35 am
|
Caporal ![]() Group: Members Posts: 138 Member No.: 84 Joined: August 19, 2003 ![]() |
Russian built ribverine ships on Danube 1919-1945
None was in 1916 , so I think mainly ships escaped from reds. There should be also some ex Russian vessels not built in Russia. ANNA iron screw tug (1897) Cherson 11nrt 19,35x3,75x2,40x1.80 90hp compound = 12km/h 1921 reg Braila 11,5t 28nhp 1931 Mihail Daniel, Braila STEFAN CEL MARE iron 2 screw tug (1864) Sevastopol 29nrt 29,61x494x1,78m Compound 180hp= 1931 Primaria, Cetatea Alba ATHINA ex RUSUD iron screw tug (1915) Russia 45nrt 30,00x7,00x2,30 Compound 130hp=18km/h 1931 Periandos Kiriakidis , Braila (Greek flag) EUGENIA ex MIR iron paddle tug (1909) Kiev or Gomel 67nrt 44,00x5,60x2,40x0,90m Compound 280hp=20km/h 1931 Robert Anatra & Co, Braila (Italian flag) 1940 SINDA (Societa Italiana di Navigazione Danubiana) HRISTOFOROS iron screw tug (?) Russian 10nrt 24,50x4,30x2,10x1,65m 2 engines compound 150hp=18km/h 1925 rebuilt 1931 Constantin Galatis, Braila (Greek flag) SYRIN iron screw tug (1905) Cherson 27,00x5,50x4,50x2,10m Compound 210hp=15km/h 1931 Gh. Luludis & Er.Luludis , Bucasresti (Greek flag) 1940 SYRON (Greek flag) MARAMURES heck paddle tug (1898) Russia 51nrt 31,00x4,90x2,301,62 280hp=17km/h 1930 SH (Servicul Hidraulic Roman) 1940 SH (Servicul Hidraulic Roman) HORIA paddle iron (1903) Kiev 190nrt 44,25x4,78x2,23 180hp 1930 NFR (Navigatia Fluivala Romana); Bucuresti TURDA paddle passenger ship (1908) Kiev t 42,00x4,90x2,10x0,80m 100hp=18km/h 200 passengers 1930 NFR (Navigatia Fluivala Romana); Bucuresti 1941 NFR (Navigatia Fluivala Romana); Bucuresti ZIMBRUL paddle tug (1916) Kiev 213nrt 45,90x5,90x2,00x0,90 Triple Expansion 250hp (1941) 340hp= 1930 NFR (Navigatia Fluivala Romana); Bucuresti 1941 NFR (Navigatia Fluivala Romana); Bucuresti In 1921 BOGATIR (1912) tug 213t 200hp reg.Braila Any additions, corrections and especially origins and final fates. (PHOTOS ?) AvM |
Andreas von Mach |
Posted: December 23, 2006 08:07 pm
|
Caporal ![]() Group: Members Posts: 138 Member No.: 84 Joined: August 19, 2003 ![]() |
From Russian 1909-10 registers:
MIR 1909 built Gomel own shipyard cargo-passengership 140x35/19x7(h)x 1 compound 1 boiler 50nhp/150ihp by Yuzhno-Mashinostroit, Kiev Passsengers: 52-I 67-II 257-III Class Owned D. i L. Amitiny, I.L.Bruk & I.Sh.Shteyn, Gomel (Dniepr) NADEZHNYY 1909 Gomel own shipyard cargo-passengership-tug 144x35/18x7ft6inx3/5a 1 compound 1 boiler 40nhp/100ihp by Dneprovkiy.Mashinostroit, Kiev Passsengers: 38-I 62-II 180-III Class Owned Sh.I.Kanel, Sh.Z.Varshavskiy i Ko., Novogeorgevsk (Dniepr) perheps later TURDA AvM |
Andreas von Mach |
Posted: December 25, 2006 04:01 pm
|
Caporal ![]() Group: Members Posts: 138 Member No.: 84 Joined: August 19, 2003 ![]() |
I have some more data about BOGATIR
In 1920-1 extant as BOGATIR (1912) tug 213t 52,40x6,35m 200hp reg.Braila owned Z.Scheinberg & Co.; Chisinau A photo of her from is in Christian Craciunoiu Low Danube Paddle Steamers Bucharest 1995 In this book there is another interesting steamer CAETATEA ALBA built 1894 46,50x5,30m owned NFR So look she as converted from tug into passenger ships In 1930 register mentioned as built in Königsberg. 162rt 46,50x5,30x2,10x0,70m Compound 300hp=20km/h She could be one of two paddle steamers built 1894 for Kiew by G.Fechter, Königsberg.: NEVA and LERMONTOV ex YAKOR More also to: ANNA ex MATHILDA ex GEORGETA iron screw tug (1897) Cherson 11nrt 19,35x3,75x2,40x1.80 90hp compound = 12km/hzhhh 1921 reg Braila 11,5t 28nhp 1931 Mihail Daniel, Braila 1940 BUG (CNR = Cetrulul National de Romanizare), Bucaresti EUGENIA ex MIR was later Soviet PETROZAVOTSK. AvM This post has been edited by Andreas von Mach on March 20, 2007 11:00 pm |
Andreas von Mach |
Posted: December 29, 2006 06:36 pm
|
Caporal ![]() Group: Members Posts: 138 Member No.: 84 Joined: August 19, 2003 ![]() |
Could be one of above ?
Iron padle cargo-tug 50nhp/150ihp=8kts MPS #122 1888 built Zavod Brianskago rel'sop. o-va, Bezhitsa, Bryansk 1888 1 Compound engined & 1 locomotive boiler Zavod Brianskago 144,36grt/17,05nrt 133x32ft8in/16ft11inx7ft5in(h)x2,5/2,75ft 1892 SHEVCHENKO A.T. & I. Doborovy (Dnestr) 1897 B.A.Mess (Dniepr) 1900 I.A.Kovalyenko & R.R.Vebster 1906 I.A.Kovalyenko & R.R.Vebster 1914 Ruuskoe Dunayskoe Parokhopdstvo , Reni #120 2.1918 seized by the Rumanians on Pruth River AvM |
Andreas von Mach |
Posted: December 30, 2006 09:08 pm
|
Caporal ![]() Group: Members Posts: 138 Member No.: 84 Joined: August 19, 2003 ![]() |
The Soviet 1922 Register listed 23 ships which should be from
Russkoe Dunayskoe Parokhodstvo They could be only ships seized or mobilised on the Danube durig WW I Donau Iron Screw Tug EPISKOP DOSIFEY 1894 built England (not yet traced) or 1884 ??? 150grt/0nrt 93,1x16,6x9,4x8,9/9ft 300ihp=8-19kts Russkoe Dunayskoe Parokhodstvo reg Odessa #? 1917 EON (Ekspeditsya Osobnogo Naznacheniya) Donau Flotilla 15.6.20 mobilised Red Fleet enlisted as gunboat No.8 1.1.21 enlisted as gunboat No.4 29.5.21 demobilised transferred to Black Sea Salvage Group 17.3.22 renamed FOROS LR 30/31 FOROS [ON4] Steel 102/0 built 1894, unknown shipyard 90,1x17,4x9,3 T3cyl. Sovtorgflot, Odessa 15.10.41 left in Odessa refloated DMO 1 Kriegsmarine 29.8.44 recaptured at Kanstanca 23.3.46 MMF sea trade ministerium 10.8.48 Odessa shipyard im A.Marti 1950s scrapped Iron Screw Tug MSTISLAV UDALOY 1901 or 1902 built South Shields 102,46grt/46,28nrt 106x19x8,5x8/9,6ft 3 exp 375hp=10-12kts Russkoe Dunayskoe Parokhodstvo reg Renni 1914 Mobilised EON (Ekspeditsya Osobnogo Naznacheniya) Donau Flotilla 11.8.20 mobilised Red Fleet 22.8.20 enlisted as gunboat No.6 1.1.21 enlisted as gunboat No.2 29.5.21 demobilised transferred to Black Sea Salvage Group 17.3.22 renamed ALUPKA 1929 general repairs LR 30/31 ALOUPKA [ON21] Steel 103/42 built 1902, unknown shipyard 101,7x19,2x8,5 T3cyl. Boilers made 19 - fitted ? Sovtorgflot, Odessa 30.1.31 Norkomvod 1.1.39 listed as Odessa harbour vessel 9.4.39 NKMF (merchant) 8.7.40-12.9.40 Odessa Naval Base merchant tug 19.07.41 she included in structure the Soviet Navy/Chernomorky Flot (the Fleet of the Black Sea) 15.10.41 she blown up by her crew in Odessa because of impossibility of a conclusion in ports of Caucasus (under repair?) 9.7.41-30.11.44 Novorossiysk naval base 21-23.09.41 participation in landing force in area Grigor'evka 07.12.41she included in structure the Soviet Navy/Chernomorky Flot (the Fleet of the Black Sea) 03-09.02.43 participation in landing force in area Juzhnaja Ozerejka ( In one document of the General staff USSR: 04.02.43 sunk by the German by coastal artillery, but probably it is a mistake) 16. 09.44 she excluded from structure the Soviet Navy 23.3.46 MMF sea trade ministerium 15.3.53 MMRF river trade (fleet) ministerium 25.8.54 MMF sea trade ministerium 1960s scrapped Iron Paddle Tug 1894 Built & engined Howaldswerke, Kiel , Germany #290 265grt/135nrt 42,67x7,01x3,25m 300hp=12kts 1894 FRATELLI B.MENDL Fratelli B.Mendl, Breila /RU 1911 FRATELLI B.MENDL Fratelli B.Mendl,Triest /AH 18.9.15 seized by Russians at Brailova and taken to Reni 15.3.16 NAGENMOR auxilairy steamer Russian Danube Flotilla operated by Russkoe Dunayskoe Parokhodstvo reg 14.7.17 despatch vessel Russian Danube Flotilla again mobilized 1.18 turned to Reds 2.18 reported left on Danube and taken by Rumanians (Berezhnoy) but in Soviet register 1922 SUKHOM Mortran ![]() AvM |
Victorian |
Posted: January 23, 2007 05:38 pm
|
![]() Soldat ![]() Group: Members Posts: 23 Member No.: 894 Joined: April 30, 2006 ![]() |
Thank you Andreas, very interesting plan this FRATELLI B.MENDL of 1894.
Actually, this is a privately owned ship based in Braila, Romania, which was lately seized by the russians. Also interesting to note that it is fitted like a tug, however it has a passenger cabin because she was used also like a pleasure craft. This is a typical arrangement for many ships based in Braila. Tugs were taxed less! There are very few original plans of Romanian ships from this period. Was there also another sheet with the body lines? Would be very interesting for modelling purposes! |
Andreas von Mach |
Posted: March 20, 2007 10:59 pm
|
Caporal ![]() Group: Members Posts: 138 Member No.: 84 Joined: August 19, 2003 ![]() |
CETATEA ALBA (ex AKKERMAN) built 1894 was seized at the end of August 1944 and transferred to Danube flotilla
AvM |
![]() |
![]() ![]() ![]() |