Reasons for Romanian Participation in Barbarossa

Nobody is arguing. I corrected your statement about Antonescu forming his first government on September 4 and you corrected my statement that Carol II did not cede prerogatives to Antonescu.

The decree that Mihai I signed ceded to Antonescu the same royal prerogatives that Carol II ceded to Antonescu before abdicating.

Antonescu was at the head of three governments, that is ALL that matters for the purposes of this thread.
Radu

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Really now, Antonescu had to act very quick and did NOT have the time to negotiate with the historical parties; he neither wanted to let the Guard (well, its remains) to have the control.

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So, Imperialist, tell us: how many times was Ion Antonescu Prime Minister? Two times or three times?

Radu

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This post has been edited by Victor on November 01, 2012 08:18 am

I'll simply let a book speak:

http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/6398/antonescu.jpg

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This post has been edited by Victor on November 01, 2012 08:18 am

Why do you refuse to answer a simple question?
You "corrected" me when I said that Ion Antonescu was Prime Minister three times. If that is "wrong", please tell us what is right! It is as simple as that!
Radu

Please stick to the topic and stop this nonsense.

"mroyer", these other topics in this forum have subjects related to the topic started by you:

http://www.worldwar2.ro/forum/index.php?showtopic=4588
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http://www.worldwar2.ro/forum/index.php?showtopic=36
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http://www.worldwar2.ro/forum/index.php?showtopic=3878
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This post has been edited by Florin on November 03, 2012 03:34 am

Romania as it was in 1939:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lFKcAhZVvZI&feature=relmfu

Bessarabia and Bukovina - 1939:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PI2GB5dFwWA&feature=relmfu

...and their loss to Soviet Union in 1940 - the main reason by far for Romanian involvement in Barbarossa:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F2i9bZ6VMtE

By the way, in what year the Roman salute became offical in Romania? (Better known as the Nazi salute...)

Florin, to your last question I know that this salute was also used in King Carol II time, and it was used at the ceremonies of his party, I know this form a neighbour, war veteran, who lived that times. I asked him if this salute was used after september 1940 (I was thinking that after Antonescu and the Iron Guard take power they introduced that salute!) and he answered me that it was used before by King Carol II party members... If he is wrong or didn't remember well, I'm sorry...

This post has been edited by ANDREAS on November 04, 2012 04:18 pm

Indeed, the salute became "mandatory" in 1938, after Carol II assumed his so-called "dictatorial powers", replaced the 1923 Constitution and "forced" the people into his party, the "National Renaissance Front" (FRN, Frontul Renaşterii Naţionale). Carol II was a "fan" of Mussolini and fascism and tried to emulate that as much as he could, sometimes with ridiculous results.

Thanks for answers, Andreas and "MMM".
What you confirmed I had noticed in those documentaries from the links of my previous message: everybody using the Roman/Nazi salute during parades with or without King Carol II as guest.

I agree that King Carol II was ridiculous in trying to copy Mussolini and fascism.
He was not the only one... Ioannis Metaxas tried the same thing in Greece, and for good reason he sincerely felt betrayed when Italy attacked Greece in 1940.

By the way, I consider the first link of those 3 as the best...

My best guess is that Carol II tried to "emulate" Mussolini also as a way to fend off the possibility of having Hitler as a model. I wonder whether the Iron Guard (or whatever it was called along the years) would have preffered NSDAP to Italian Fascists... sure, they were "original" and "made in Romania", but given a choice - what then?