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> Mihai Oncioiu and Ion Profir, 5th BG He 111's
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Posted: February 03, 2006 02:11 am
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I have the Squadron/Signal Publications book "Rumanian Air Force: The Prime Decade, 1938-147", had a couple of questions...

On 22 January 1943, He 111 of Mihai Oncioiu (Commander) and Ion Petcu (Pilot) was shot down during Stalingrad Campaign. Crew escaped. What was aircraft number?

Also, what He 111 aircraft number (s) for Ion Profir?

Am a model builder and would like to build and detail a couple of He 111 models per the aircraft mentioned.

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Posted: February 03, 2006 04:02 am
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QUOTE (markr @ Feb 3 2006, 08:11 AM)
I have the Squadron/Signal Publications book "Rumanian Air Force: The Prime Decade, 1938-147", had a couple of questions...

On 22 January 1943, He 111 of Mihai Oncioiu (Commander) and Ion Petcu (Pilot) was shot down during Stalingrad Campaign. Crew escaped. What was aircraft number?

It was He 111H-3, No. 19.

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Also, what He 111 aircraft number (s) for Ion Profir?


I will have to check his memoirs.
I have no accident with Cpt. Profir being involved in.

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Am a model builder and would like to build and detail a couple of He 111 models per the aircraft mentioned.


Good luck and keep us posted.

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Posted: February 03, 2006 04:09 am
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I quickly checked his memoirs. In mid-January 1943, he flew No. 18 in a bombing mission, which was also a He 111H-3.
I hope this helps.

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Posted: February 03, 2006 05:47 am
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I quickly checked his memoirs. In mid-January 1943, he flew No. 18 in a bombing mission, which was also a He 111H-3.
I hope this helps.

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He 111 H-3 no 18. Source SMP pictures.
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Posted: February 03, 2006 05:51 am
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And the 5th BG unit emblem (flying bomb) painted on the left side of He 111 H-3.
Upper cammo on rom He 111 H-3 is RLM 61,62,63.

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Posted: February 03, 2006 06:31 am
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Cpt. av. Ion Profir flew many missions on no. 30 during the autumn of 1942.
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Posted: February 03, 2006 12:34 pm
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QUOTE (Cantacuzino @ Feb 3 2006, 11:51 AM)
Upper cammo on rom He 111 H-3 is RLM 01,02,03.

The camouflage colours are actually RLM 61/62/63.

There is a colour photo on the back cover of my book on ARR, published by Squadron/Signal, mentioned by Mark.

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QUOTE (Cantacuzino @ Feb 3 2006, 11:51 AM)
Upper cammo on rom He 111 H-3 is RLM 01,02,03. 


The camouflage colours are actually RLM 61/62/63.

There is a colour photo on the back cover of my book on ARR, published by Squadron/Signal, mentioned by Mark.

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Yes you are right. RLM 63 seems to be light green grey (close with RLM 02.)
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Posted: February 03, 2006 03:44 pm
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Yes, RLM 63 is Light Grey. On the mentioned photo you can see the rear part of the He 111's fuselage being painted in this colour.

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Posted: February 04, 2006 02:58 am
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Thanks, everyone, for all of this information so quickly!

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Posted: February 04, 2006 09:49 pm
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While we are on the subject of Romanian He 111's...

What about the aircraft of Virgil Stanculescu, of the 78th Bomber Squadron, when he bombed a German convoy on the Danube River, August 30th, 1944?

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Posted: February 04, 2006 10:06 pm
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I only have detailed information on those ARR aircraft, which were either damaged or lost in combat or accident.

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