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Radub
Posted: August 31, 2012 10:03 pm
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If it is an F, then it is not Romanian. There is not enough in the photo to tell the type for sure, but I can see that it is armed with MG17 guns so it is not a G-6. My guess is G-2 or G-4.
This caption is just a small "niggle", the book is quite good otherwise.
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Posted: September 01, 2012 07:38 am
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The plane it is not Romanian. The picture is from a photo album offered in late 41 or early 42 by the 1st Fighter Flotilla pilots to General Jienescu. All the downed planes from this album (also from the book) looks like being Romanian victories.
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Posted: September 01, 2012 07:44 am
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QUOTE (cainele_franctiror @ September 01, 2012 07:38 am)
looks like being Romanian victories.

I mean they are all on the same page

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Posted: September 01, 2012 07:56 am
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still I connot attach ...
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Posted: September 01, 2012 10:17 am
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Use http://minus.com, just drag and drop the picture there and then copy the link here.

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Radub
Posted: September 01, 2012 12:42 pm
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QUOTE (cainele_franctiror @ September 01, 2012 07:38 am)
The plane it is not Romanian. The picture is from a photo album offered in late 41 or early 42 by the 1st Fighter Flotilla pilots to General Jienescu. All the downed planes from this album (also from the book) looks like being Romanian victories.

Sorry... I do not understand...

Do you mean that this is a picture of a Messerschmitt shot down by Romanian pilots? How? In what circumstances? Planes of that type were used only by "friendly" nations at the time when the type was in use (Germany, Hungary, Italy). Did Romanian pilots shoot down a "friendly"? The Russians captured a few, but they never used them in combat.

A much more likely scenario is that it is a German F/G or a Romanian G that fell victim to a Russian airfield attack (or maybe crashed during take-off/landing).

By the way, if you ever need help with aircraft identification, please do not hesitate to write me a PM.
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cainele_franctiror
Posted: September 01, 2012 01:46 pm
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http://minus.com/mKK9EToZC

thank you muggs.

Anyway, the tail assembly looks more like LaGG 3 for me. I mean the horizontal stabilising of an Me 109 is not below the ungle of the tail where the tail meet the fuselage.
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Posted: September 01, 2012 01:54 pm
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Posted: September 01, 2012 03:18 pm
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I have this photo. By appearance, it's a Bf 109, either F or G.
If I remember correctly, it's an F used during transition to the "Gustav", but I need to double check it.

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Posted: September 01, 2012 04:44 pm
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QUOTE (cainele_franctiror @ September 01, 2012 01:46 pm)
Anyway, the tail assembly looks more like LaGG 3 for me. I mean the horizontal stabilising of an Me 109 is not below the ungle of the tail where the tail meet the fuselage.

Look in the midle of the ashes. You see a trapese-shaped structure with two diagonal bars at the top corners. That is the windscreen frame of a Bf.109 and those diagonal bars are handholds.

But even without that "clue", it is evident because of the MG17 gun-throughs on the nose that it is a Bf.109.

As I said, this is not a big problem, so let us not make a big thing out of it. wink.gif

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