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yugit |
Posted: January 28, 2012 03:09 pm
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Sergent major Group: Banned Posts: 216 Member No.: 3058 Joined: May 07, 2011 |
Someone claims of having discovered photos
from inside life of the worst tyran of the previous century. Here are the links http://news.yahoo.com/photos/inside-hitler...1327706145.html |
sebipatru |
Posted: January 28, 2012 03:25 pm
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Fruntas Group: Members Posts: 53 Member No.: 2990 Joined: January 26, 2011 |
Stalin?
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bansaraba |
Posted: January 28, 2012 06:19 pm
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Sergent Group: Members Posts: 184 Member No.: 2196 Joined: July 20, 2008 |
Heh! My history teacher always used to say that as far as the evil thing goes, Hitler could have sucked Stalin's socks... Nice color pictures! What a megalomaniac though... |
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yugit |
Posted: January 28, 2012 09:39 pm
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Sergent major Group: Banned Posts: 216 Member No.: 3058 Joined: May 07, 2011 |
Yep you name it, though the other guy probably meant
what Hitler said once " my best tool to beat the Russians and kep the country under control is Stalin" After all they tried to be friends at first....appearently there are reports of not only of megalomanies but homosexuality with someone in Italy during his painter time. This post has been edited by yugit on January 28, 2012 09:40 pm |
Radub |
Posted: January 28, 2012 10:32 pm
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Mina88 |
Posted: March 14, 2012 04:29 pm
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Soldat Group: Members Posts: 24 Member No.: 3276 Joined: March 12, 2012 |
well it seems that your teacher doesn't have a clue about history |
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ANDREAS |
Posted: March 14, 2012 07:40 pm
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Locotenent colonel Group: Members Posts: 814 Member No.: 2421 Joined: March 15, 2009 |
It is true that a statement such as "Hitler was a child in comparison with evil Stalin" cause an image of "more acceptable evil" for Hitler, which in itself is unacceptable! Seriously speaking both were monsters of mass murder, directly or indirectly responsible for the deaths of millions of people, the discussion about who is bigger and who is smaller is, in my opinion, useless. For most of the Jewish, French, British, Russian, Serbian, Greek and some other nations Hitler is probably seen as much worse as Stalin, for some Ukraineans, Lituanians, Lettons, Finns, Hungarians and Romanians and some other nations Stalin is perceived to be much worse then Hitler. Maybe the Poles who have felt atrocities from both nazi and communists can be more objective in this issue?
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Mina88 |
Posted: March 14, 2012 10:42 pm
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Soldat Group: Members Posts: 24 Member No.: 3276 Joined: March 12, 2012 |
I apsolutely agree with you. Nice said. |
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Florin |
Posted: March 15, 2012 12:32 am
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General de corp de armata Group: Members Posts: 1879 Member No.: 17 Joined: June 22, 2003 |
At least the Nazi were openly evil against Poland from start to end. I say the Stalin and the Communists were worse, because they had betrayed any hope the Poles may have toward somebody facing a common enemy. Remember that during the uprising at Warsaw the Red Army not only did not move one finger to help, but they had forbidden the Americans and British to come by air and drop supplies, and when they eventually allowed it, it was too late anyway. This post has been edited by Florin on March 15, 2012 12:34 am |
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Florin |
Posted: March 15, 2012 12:41 am
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General de corp de armata Group: Members Posts: 1879 Member No.: 17 Joined: June 22, 2003 |
Even if these photos were not publicly known before, I would say "nothing new". I would be really curious to see unknown photos with Hitler as child, or teenager, or as poor and hungry rogue on the streets of Wien, when (could you guess it?) the only customers for his paintings were the Jews who had small street retail shops. In a documentary they argued that his first love was a Jewish girl, when he was teenager. This post has been edited by Florin on March 15, 2012 12:47 am |
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MMM |
Posted: March 15, 2012 11:12 am
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General de divizie Group: Members Posts: 1463 Member No.: 2323 Joined: December 02, 2008 |
Another oppinion regarding his hate towards jews stated that one of his schoolmates was a jew, smarter than him, which also helped him "improve" his grades, IIRC... Very Freudian! -------------------- M
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Imperialist |
Posted: March 16, 2012 09:55 am
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General de armata Group: Members Posts: 2399 Member No.: 499 Joined: February 09, 2005 |
I agree that they are responsible for that, but we also have to be aware that holding Hitler and Stalin as the monsters of history also serves an ideological purpose. Massacres and reprisals, the direct and indirect killing of millions was nothing new: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2007/aug/2...a.randeepramesh http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_m...ng_British_rule What made Hitler and Stalin particularly dangerous was the fact that they were ruthless revolutionaries that ideologically and militarily challenged the status quo system (the (neo)liberal capitalist democratic system). Since that system eventually prevailed over their own, they have to be given as an example. -------------------- I
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ANDREAS |
Posted: March 16, 2012 11:21 pm
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Locotenent colonel Group: Members Posts: 814 Member No.: 2421 Joined: March 15, 2009 |
Imperialist,
indeed looking from this point on the things, you're right! On the other hand there are many differences (even a lot of them if we think better!) f.i. the extermination or attempted extermination of entire populations and/or social classes (applies to Hitler's Germany or Stalin's Russia!) are, from what I know something new (I refer to elements that differentiates the two dictators in killings ordered by their predecessors). This post has been edited by ANDREAS on March 16, 2012 11:23 pm |
MMM |
Posted: March 17, 2012 01:55 pm
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General de divizie Group: Members Posts: 1463 Member No.: 2323 Joined: December 02, 2008 |
They did not forbid anything! Simply they wouldn't allow the allied planes to land and refuel on Soviet Airforce's airports. They claimed they couldn't guarantee their security! My 2 cents are on the fact that the Allies weren't so eager to commit, either... This post has been edited by MMM on June 19, 2012 07:08 am -------------------- M
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Florin |
Posted: March 20, 2012 06:36 pm
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General de corp de armata Group: Members Posts: 1879 Member No.: 17 Joined: June 22, 2003 |
Take a look:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TwNGyU3PRIk Forget the stupid music, then use your own judgment... |