Romanian kitchen equipment

Hello, I'm a collector from Poland. I seek a good photos and info about canteen, mess kit, spoon-fork combo and individual cooks used in Romanian Army 1900-45. Type, how was marked? Can You help me?
I have two romanian canteen. First look like Austrian-Hungarian modell 1888 - http://img373.imageshack.us/my.php?image=128xm1.jpg
Second- (in red circle) http://img54.imageshack.us/my.php?image=10004186ll.jpg

This post has been edited by maxikasek on May 22, 2006 10:46 am

I saw photos in your forum, and i have question.
http://img54.imageshack.us/my.php?image=me...manierki0kv.jpg
this (inside red line) look like italian modell 1933. Licence or purchases in Italy?
sorry for my english

Unfortunately there aren't any studies made on Romanian mess kits used in the first and Second World War. Take a look here: http://www.worldwar2.ro/forum/index.php?showtopic=2884&st=0

I'm not sure about your two canteens especially the first one as the text doesn’t seem to be in Romanian.

The aluminum one could be Yugoslavian unless you post better pictures of it.

I also noticed that the canteen is very similar to the Italian WWII ones, but I don't know when they were bought or made.

PS I believe this topic is in the wrong place.

sorry, i have a request for admin to transfer this topic to Small arms, Daggers & Uniforms.

First is made in BUCURESCI (Bucarest in romanian language?). second is romanian, but have remove paint. is look like this http://img488.imageshack.us/my.php?image=011tu8co.jpg .

In Romanian Bucharest is written "Bucuresti", that's why I doubt the first canteen. If you can tell me the rest of the text I could tell you if it is Romanian or not.

The last picture you posted is a Yugoslav canteen very similar to the Romanian ones in shape but bigger, if you send me the dimensions of your aluminum canteen I'm going to tell you if this one is Romanian or not.

This German made aluminum cup and plate stamped with the Romanian eagle crest insignia of officers quality were found in the Ukraine. Recently on Ebay.



Plate

Insignia on plate.

Aluminum cup.

Insignia on cup.

Mihnea, there was a time when "Bucuresti" was spelled "BUCURESCI"... Unfortunatelly for the canteen, that was back in the 19th century.... However, there is a town by that name in the Hunedoara distict. I agree with you that the dimensions and photograph of the text are needed in order to correctly identify the object.

EDIT: Apparently, in the mid 20s the spelling for the capital was still "Bucuresci", as can bee seen from an 1921 copy of Encyclopedya Britannica (Volume V04, Page 718) where the entry on the town features that paticular spelling, as well as a book named "Buletinul Societatii de Sciinte din Bucuresci-1922" ("The Bulletin of the Science Society of Bucharest -1922")
Not to mention this particular exibit, a manhole cover from the same era:



So now all depends on when the canteen was manufactured. Could it have been made before 1922?

(the photograph comes from here)

This post has been edited by Wings_of_wrath on May 28, 2006 07:09 pm

Ok, I've found it: the spelling was officially changed from "Bucuresci" to "Bucuresti" following the Romanian Academy's change of ortographic rules for the Romanian language in 1932, the same disputed modification that introduced “î din i”.
Proof is this "Romanian Grand Cross 1932 Civil Merit award" on this site (I'm sure those of you with an interest in decorations are familiar with it) that is marked on the reverse side with the dealer's name and adress "Josef Resch & FIU Bucuresci"



So now it's beggining to look more and more like that canteen might be a genuine artifact. However, in order to be sure, Maxikasek, can you please post the exact dimensions and a phototgraph of the text?

This post has been edited by Wings_of_wrath on May 29, 2006 05:28 am

Thanks for the info Wings_of_wrath; I didn't know that Bucharest was ever spelled "Bucuresci".

So the first canteen is probably Romanian but I wander what was written on it. Is the year of manufacture on it?

Maxikasek, were did you find it?

Cup saucer plate.

Cup saucer plate insignia.

Teapot.