Romanian Military History Forum - Part of Romanian Army in the Second World War Website



Pages: (4) 1 2 [3] 4   ( Go to first unread post ) Reply to this topicStart new topicStart Poll

> Romanian kitchen equipment
ANDI
Posted: February 18, 2007 08:00 pm
Quote Post


Plutonier major
*

Group: Members
Posts: 332
Member No.: 674
Joined: September 19, 2005



Roumanian (german type) mess kit. My guess is that we had produced this model after the war. It is unmarked.

user posted image
user posted image
PMEmail Poster
Top
ANDI
Posted: February 18, 2007 08:03 pm
Quote Post


Plutonier major
*

Group: Members
Posts: 332
Member No.: 674
Joined: September 19, 2005



Romanian ww2 mess kit. Complete and in very good condition, enamel intact.

user posted image
user posted image
PMEmail Poster
Top
mihnea
Posted: February 18, 2007 10:14 pm
Quote Post


Capitan
*

Group: Members
Posts: 682
Member No.: 679
Joined: September 26, 2005



QUOTE (maxikasek @ May 21, 2006 11:26 pm)
Hello, I'm a collector from Poland. I seek a good photos and info about canteen, mess kit, spoon-fork combo and individual cooks used in Romanian Army 1900-45. Type, how was marked? Can You help me?
I have two romanian canteen. First look like Austrian-Hungarian modell 1888 - http://img373.imageshack.us/my.php?image=128xm1.jpg
Second- (in red circle) http://img54.imageshack.us/my.php?image=10004186ll.jpg

QUOTE (mihnea @ May 22, 2006 09:58 pm)
The aluminum one could be Yugoslavian unless you post better pictures of it.

QUOTE (mihnea @ May 24, 2006 10:03 pm)
The last picture you posted is a Yugoslav canteen very similar to the Romanian ones in shape but bigger, if you send me the dimensions of your aluminum canteen I'm going to tell you if this one is Romanian or not.

QUOTE (mihnea @ June 29, 2006 08:22 pm)
For the aluminum one I "prepared" you a picture. The big canteen is Yugoslavian the smaller one Romanian.

user posted image

There was an enameled one theoretically used in WWII, this is the only picture of it (that I have seen), it also presents some of the kitchen equipment issued at the beginning of the war.

user posted image


I have reconsidered my opinion regarding the aluminum canteen, after I bought another one covert with felt and seeing one in a picture, used by a Romanian soldier. It’s very probable that the one presented as Yugoslav in this book: "Field Equipment of the infantry 1914-1945" by Robert Fisch is Romanian.

Now the pictures:
user posted image user posted image user posted image user posted image

PMEmail Poster
Top
mihnea
Posted: February 19, 2007 02:27 pm
Quote Post


Capitan
*

Group: Members
Posts: 682
Member No.: 679
Joined: September 26, 2005



The pages from the book "Field Equipment of the infantry 1914-1945" by Robert Fisch presenting a Romanian canteen without the felt (in my opinion) as Yugoslav.
user posted image user posted image

And the picture from Militaria Magasin Hors-Serie Nr 51 "Guerre en Crimee Prendre Sebastopol !" by Yves Buffetaut:
user posted image
The right gunner has a big canteen attached to the gas mask bag.
PMEmail Poster
Top
maxikasek
Posted: March 03, 2007 09:22 pm
Quote Post


Soldat
*

Group: Members
Posts: 17
Member No.: 897
Joined: May 02, 2006




Hello. I have two models Yugo canteen.
Belgrad 1940
user posted image
and Balkanmetal Kopryvnica 1940
user posted image

This post has been edited by maxikasek on March 03, 2007 09:22 pm
PMEmail Poster
Top
ANDI
Posted: March 04, 2007 08:19 pm
Quote Post


Plutonier major
*

Group: Members
Posts: 332
Member No.: 674
Joined: September 19, 2005



Romanian water canteen with, what appears to be, russian cover. The cover is made out of two layers, cloth on the outside, felt on the inside.
The attaching system is actually a cloth belt with buckle.

user posted image
user posted image
PMEmail Poster
Top
Messerschmitt
Posted: March 05, 2007 06:15 am
Quote Post


Sergent major
*

Group: Members
Posts: 241
Member No.: 975
Joined: June 27, 2006



QUOTE (mihnea @ February 19, 2007 05:27 pm)
The pages from the book "Field Equipment of the infantry 1914-1945" by Robert Fisch presenting a Romanian canteen without the felt (in my opinion) as Yugoslav.
user posted image user posted image

And the picture from Militaria Magasin Hors-Serie Nr 51 "Guerre en Crimee Prendre Sebastopol !" by Yves Buffetaut:
user posted image
The right gunner has a big canteen attached to the gas mask bag.

I think that one of my neighbours has three "nr.72" canteens.
PMEmail PosterYahoo
Top
mihnea
Posted: March 05, 2007 04:44 pm
Quote Post


Capitan
*

Group: Members
Posts: 682
Member No.: 679
Joined: September 26, 2005



QUOTE (ANDI @ March 04, 2007 10:19 pm)
Romanian water canteen with, what appears to be, russian cover. The cover is made out of two layers, cloth on the outside, felt on the inside.
The attaching system is actually a cloth belt with buckle.

user posted image user posted image

The cover doesn’t like the Russian ones on the net ( http://www.aboutww2militaria.com/index.htm...ield_gear_3.htm ). The material used inside as padding looks like Romanian WWII cloth used for uniforms; also the way the cap is attached to the cover doesn’t seem to be field made.

Therefore I think that it's a Romanian canteen and cover made especially for cold climates like the Russian winters.
PMEmail Poster
Top
ANDI
Posted: March 05, 2007 09:16 pm
Quote Post


Plutonier major
*

Group: Members
Posts: 332
Member No.: 674
Joined: September 19, 2005



I reckon you are right. As far as I have seen on the site you have mentioned above, those russian canteen covers are bag-like, with an X strap around the neck of the canteen. Also the material seems to be ordinary thin cloth.
PMEmail Poster
Top
mihnea
Posted: March 30, 2007 05:51 pm
Quote Post


Capitan
*

Group: Members
Posts: 682
Member No.: 679
Joined: September 26, 2005



My latest acquisition: a aluminum mess tin used in WWII by the romanian army probably made in Italy as it's very similar to the ones used by the Italian army in WWII.

user posted image user posted image user posted image

This post has been edited by mihnea on March 30, 2007 05:52 pm
PMEmail Poster
Top
maxikasek
Posted: May 30, 2007 06:29 pm
Quote Post


Soldat
*

Group: Members
Posts: 17
Member No.: 897
Joined: May 02, 2006



My latest acquisition: romanian canteen - one of them.
user posted image
PMEmail Poster
Top
maxikasek
Posted: May 30, 2007 06:32 pm
Quote Post


Soldat
*

Group: Members
Posts: 17
Member No.: 897
Joined: May 02, 2006



PMEmail Poster
Top
mihnea
Posted: August 02, 2007 07:50 pm
Quote Post


Capitan
*

Group: Members
Posts: 682
Member No.: 679
Joined: September 26, 2005



I think that now I have almost all the major types of canteens and mess kits used by the Romanian army in WWII (not counting the German, Russian, Hungarian and the WWI items), I mean all the standard equipment used at the beginning of the war.

user posted image

Canteens, from left to right: enameled similar to the Austrian WWI ones, aluminium with four ribs on the exterior this one has a German cork but it fits perfectly and it's from the period so I'm not going to change it (beneath it is the cover but because the cover stayed for many year on a German canteen it doesn’t fit any more but you can see one in mint condition here: http://www.worldwar2.ro/forum/index.php?showtopic=2884&st=0 ); the other two are identical except that one is bigger.
Mess kits, again from left to right: the most common Romanian canteen made from enameled steel, the handle is blued; identical to the previous one but this one is 1cm smaller than the first one; this is most probably the plate for these canteens it fits both but if it is used with the smaller one there combined height is very close to the big one; Italian canteen made from aluminum, I have seen it used only by the paratroopers.

I always wanted to reconstruct this picture:
user posted image
rolleyes.gif
user posted image
PMEmail Poster
Top
Claudiu1988
Posted: August 02, 2007 08:22 pm
Quote Post


Colonel
*

Group: Members
Posts: 943
Member No.: 398
Joined: November 23, 2004



Congratulation biggrin.gif I like them a lot.
PMEmail Poster
Top
maxikasek
Posted: September 01, 2007 10:56 pm
Quote Post


Soldat
*

Group: Members
Posts: 17
Member No.: 897
Joined: May 02, 2006



Bigger canteen and messkit made for highlander troops.
PMEmail Poster
Top
2 User(s) are reading this topic (2 Guests and 0 Anonymous Users)
0 Members:

Topic Options Pages: (4) 1 2 [3] 4  Reply to this topicStart new topicStart Poll

 






[ Script Execution time: 0.0121 ]   [ 14 queries used ]   [ GZIP Enabled ]