ARR VINTAGE SCALE MODELS

I wouldn't separate the two designs to such a degree. They were very close to each other.

I remember placing the two types' side views on the top of each other, and the similarity of the rear fuselage and tail areas was striking.

Also, Arh. Andrei Mihai, a civil engineer, stated that the I.A.R. 80's wings were half scale copy of the Savoia S.79B bomber's wings, also manufactured at I.A.R. Brasov. However, I did not double-check this myself.

Gen. Dénes

As I said, the section between the cockpit and the rudder are very similar, especially the internal structure. But there are enough diffences to make them different. Similar, but not the same.

Mihai Andrei published a series of great articles in the magazine Top Gun. In the February 2000 issue of Top Gun he published a set of superimposed drawings comparing the I.A.R. and the P.Z.L. They are convincing indeed. However, he used a set of drawings that he drew with his brother Viorel. I have the complete set of his drawings and they are nice. They were never published except for the Top Gun article. Unfortunately, they feature very many errors. He merely compared the wrong drawings to the P.Z.L. drawings.
I had access to some original factory drawings and based on those I drew a complete set of drawings of every single version of I.A.R. These drawings are included in the book that will be released next week. When these drawings were compared to the P.Z.L. drawings, the differences were immediately visible.
Yes, you are right, he also claimed that the wing of the I.A.R. was based on the wing of the S-79. Indeed, in the same article he has a drawing showing that when viewed from above, the two wings are similar (but not same) in shape. Interesting theory, but it fails because, as any aeronautical engineer knows, the NACA profile of the wing matters more than the outline shape. The I.A.R. and the S-79 have wings with different NACA profiles.

HTH,
Radu

guys, i created a topic special for IAR80. so pleas epost here vintage ARR models....

Thanks!

You started it when you mentioned the "P.Z.L." stuff.
Radu

Radu

Thanks for your info , I appreciate your professionalism and
deep understanding of the IAR-80 .I have a question did by
chance any of the IAR designers team ever travel to the
US prior the WWII. While my knowledge is rather mainly
military, I know that on the 30's Rumanian flyers were taking
part of various contests in the US and as such I imagine that also
IAR design bureau may have travelled too and met with some
of the US manufacturers of that time.

BR
Al

As Seeker mentioned, this veering way off-topic.
I do not kow of any "US connection", maybe there was one... I just don't know it. There were a number of British or French connections. Even the Brownings used on the I.A.R. (Browning being a U.S. company) were Belgian licence-built guns.
Radu

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