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Andreas von Mach |
Posted: September 14, 2003 11:12 am
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Caporal Group: Members Posts: 138 Member No.: 84 Joined: August 19, 2003 |
I am interested in builders , origins and final fates
of the following Romanian screw tugs of 1940. DECEBAL ex ARHANGELOS Built 1889 Glasgow 21.48x3.80x1.77m 100ihp NISTRUL ex FRATII DANIEL Built 1908 Glasgow 21.90x4.87x2.25m 200ihp TROTOSUL ex SOLOMON ex MORENO Built 1911 Cardiff 16.75x3.30x1.98m 120ihp PHOENIX 1 - 4 Built 1917 Southampton 24.81x5.04x1.32m 250ihp Answer by David Asprey: These four were built for the War Office fleet in Mesopotamia - twin-screw tunnel tugs of 95grt 81.5 x 16.3 x 4.4ft with twin compound engines: T 20: Rennie Forrestt, Wivenhoe (Yd 1285) 1916 T 22: Rennie Forrestt, Wivenhoe (Yd 1287) 1916 with engines by Plenty & Son T 75: Day Summers, Southampton (Yd 164) 1917 T 76: Day Summers, Southampton (Yd 165) 1917 with engines by Day Summers The were shipped out to Basrah for final fitting out and commissioning. At the end of the war they were brought back to the UK and sold in 1920 to R McGregor. He resold them in 1922 to Phoenix Oil & Transport Co Ltd, London who renamed them PHOENIX 1-4 (though I do not know the correlation of T numbers with Phoenix numbers). They were then sailed out to the Danube via the French canal/river system, Mediterranean, Bosphorus and Black Sea. At some point, probably in the 1930s they were sold by Phoenix to local Romania, Dr Ecat Radacovici. In 1940 they were chartered by the British-owned Goeland Transport & Trading Co Ltd to keep them from German use, though that was short-lived. Then what???? |
Andreas von Mach |
Posted: September 14, 2003 05:18 pm
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Caporal Group: Members Posts: 138 Member No.: 84 Joined: August 19, 2003 |
Another one listed by Gröner Vol 8/I p.129-130:
ADRIANOPOLIS built 1902 England 23.62/22.48x4.20m 230/119ips Owned by Gheorge & Joan Varnalis, Galatz Built as screw tug CINA PASSALAQUA 1942 already Romanian flag Jul 1944 taken by German IMROD(D) as Minesweeper 1 August 1944 still rebuilding at Braila Fates ????? |
Cristian Craciunoiu |
Posted: October 21, 2003 09:56 am
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Fruntas Group: Members Posts: 69 Member No.: 102 Joined: September 09, 2003 |
About PHOENIX
Beeing by chance friend with Sorin Radacovici I found the drawings of the class. Two were transformed in Danube minelayers carring numbers, I could not identify yet. Mr. Radacovici lives today as a US citizen. One of them survived war and was used by Navrom. She was usedfull because had the two propellers in tubes at the keel level and a very low water draught. Scrapped in 1968. |
Cristian Craciunoiu |
Posted: October 22, 2003 08:46 am
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Fruntas Group: Members Posts: 69 Member No.: 102 Joined: September 09, 2003 |
TROTUS survived war and was in Navrom Danube passanger transport in 1968 as a coloured beautifull picture taken by painter Ion Taralunga shows. All technical data are available in Navrom river ships list.
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Andreas von Mach |
Posted: October 22, 2003 08:53 am
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Caporal Group: Members Posts: 138 Member No.: 84 Joined: August 19, 2003 |
Is the NAVROM list in any way available on the net ?
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