On-line Euroatlas

I clicked on the ad under the threads and fund and interesting site:
http://www.euratlas.net/history/europe/

I clicked on the year 800 and found out that great parts of the current territory of Rumania back then was called... Bulgaria:
http://www.euratlas.net/history/europe/800/index.html
How much this map reflects the point of view of the current Rumanian historiography?

Also, there was no one in Transylvania?

What is your opinion?

Gen. Dénes

This post has been edited by Dénes on October 10, 2012 06:06 am

It confirms Hungary,UDMR and other magyar extremists oppinions. There was nobody is Transylvania!

Are you somehow equating Hungary and UDMR with extremism?
It's not the first time you are stirring here confrontation along ethnic lines.
I suggest you to refrain from any nationalist outbursts and stick to the topic.

Gen. Dénes

This post has been edited by Dénes on October 10, 2012 10:34 am

Are you somehow equating Hungary and UDMR with extremism?
It's not the first time you are stirring here confrontation along ethnic lines.
I suggest you to refrain from any nationalist outbursts and stick to the topic.

Gen. Dénes

Aren't they sustaining the same ideea? Authonomy?
I also suggest that you change your attitude! I noticed that you like to envolve in discussions that dissconsider Romania and everything regarding Ro Army,politics...everything.
Since when is wrong to be nationalist? Or you consider romanian nationalism equal to nazism?

http://ro.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C8%9Aaratul_Vlaho-Bulgar

This is the explanation in my opinion.

I don't think those maps are very accurate.

http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/historical/...pherd-c-057.jpg


This post has been edited by Imperialist on October 10, 2012 03:42 pm

Are you somehow equating Hungary and UDMR with extremism?
It's not the first time you are stirring here confrontation along ethnic lines.
I suggest you to refrain from any nationalist outbursts and stick to the topic.

Gen. Dénes

Aren't they sustaining the same ideea? Authonomy?
I also suggest that you change your attitude! I noticed that you like to envolve in discussions that dissconsider Romania and everything regarding Ro Army,politics...everything.
Since when is wrong to be nationalist? Or you consider romanian nationalism equal to nazism?

seeker,

if you have something to add related to the topic, please do so. If you don't, then refrain from steering it into a pointless flame war on current political subjects.

Thank you.

Are you somehow equating Hungary and UDMR with extremism?
It's not the first time you are stirring here confrontation along ethnic lines.
I suggest you to refrain from any nationalist outbursts and stick to the topic.

Gen. Dénes

Aren't they sustaining the same ideea? Authonomy?
I also suggest that you change your attitude! I noticed that you like to envolve in discussions that dissconsider Romania and everything regarding Ro Army,politics...everything.
Since when is wrong to be nationalist? Or you consider romanian nationalism equal to nazism?

seeker,

if you have something to add related to the topic, please do so. If you don't, then refrain from steering it into a pointless flame war on current political subjects.

Thank you.

Yes Victor, but i am sick of Denes comments that show lack of respect for our country.
I just don't like his attitude and if other members shut up, i won't!

Denes has done more for Romania than many so-called "pure-blood" loudmouth Romanians. I have many of Denes' books about Aeronautica Regala Romana and I cannot find any "lack of respect for Romania" in them.
Telling the unpleasant truth about Romania is not lack of patriotism. Some Romanians must accept that the history of Romania is tightly interwoven with the history of Hungary. Like or hate it, it is the truth.
Let us keep it friendly. No one has anything to gain from such rows.
That map is very interesting. Whatever one may think about the "Romanian" bit, a lot of the other countries are extremely well-represented.
Radu

Seeker, if you're sick of me and my posts, why don't you leave the forum and take your nationalist views somewhere else? No one else seem to be sick of my posts, but you. Simple and efficient cure.

Gen. Dénes

This post has been edited by Dénes on October 12, 2012 09:37 am

As mentioned, I found this series of maps by accident, being advertised on the bottom of this forum. I simply wanted to ask other members' opinion about it, from a purely historical approach.

Gen. Dénes

Pray tell what unpleasant truth does this thread/inaccurate map tells about Romania?

....and the "victim" becomes agressor )

I don't care if others don't tell you anything. There were discussions about hungarian massacres in Transylvania you were alone against other members, and still you are on this forum. I'll follow you're example!
Still you haven't explained me why is being nationalist is wrong? I really hope that you are not "equating" romanian nationalism with axis nationalism.

Also please stop editing your posts!!! Let it like it came out...be onest! )

Pray tell what unpleasant truth does this thread/inaccurate map tells about Romania?

You are the one pushing the "inaccurate" argument, not I. I have nothing to "tell". I am strictly referring to the fact that a discussion about maps veered into a discussion about the strained relationship between Hungary and Romania. My point was that, like or hate it, the two countries have a shared history, in which each did some stuff likely to irritate the other. So, let us discuss the maps not attack each other. And this is your cue to explain and correct the maps.
Radu

My opinion is that the map doesn't reflect the point of view of the current ROmanian historiography, the map is as accurate as, lets say, Wikipedia can be.

My opinion is that the above statement is an old hungarian joke, and jokes are meant to be funny and we should laugh a lot, in consequence: