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dragos03 |
Posted: July 31, 2005 09:45 pm
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I found an interesting document about the planes available to the Romanian airforce at the start of WW1.
Planes in service on 1 Jan. 1914: - 12 Bleriot - 10 Bristol-Coanda - 6 Farman - 1 Vlaicu Planes received in 1915 and 1916 (until 15 Aug. 1916): - 6 Bleriot - 10 Morane Saulnier - 12 Caudron - 5 H. Farman - 13 M. Farman - 8 Voisin - 4 Nieuport - 20 Breguet R. - 1 Aviatik - 1 Taube-Albatros Available airplanes on 15 Aug. 1916: - 4 Caudron - 2 H. Farman - 10 M. Farman - 8 Voisin - 4 Nieuport Planes on 1 Oct. 1916 (17 of those were unserviceable): - 2 Morane Saulnier - 2 Caudron - 3 H. Farman - 6 M. Farman - 6 Voisin - 12 Nieuport - 17 Farman 130 H.P. Planes received from France during 1916 (the whole year): - 3 H. Farman - 41 Nieuport - 18 Breguet R. - 38 Farman 130 H.P. |
Dénes |
Posted: August 08, 2005 10:50 pm
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The same data was published in the following book: 'România in razboiul mondial', 1916-1918, vol. I, Bucuresti, Imprimeria Nationala, 1934, pag. 70.
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dragos03 |
Posted: August 14, 2005 09:18 pm
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Yes, that's where i got it. I assumed that most people here don't have that book and they may find the list interesting.
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Agarici |
Posted: August 15, 2005 09:55 am
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I have collection of “Flacara” magazine from 1914-1915, with many interesting articles about “The Great War”, about Romania’s neutrality and about the Romanian aviation. Maybe sometime I’ll find time to translate and post some of them. |
Florin |
Posted: August 20, 2005 04:22 am
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It would be great if you can do some photos with a digital camera, or to use a scanner, the latter in case you can open the magazine at 180 degrees without damaging the pages. The articles about the Romanian aviation, with some photos if possible, would be a great and welcomed support to my topic "The Beginnings of the Romanian Air Force", of course if you want to insert them there. |
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bansaraba |
Posted: November 23, 2009 09:20 pm
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How comes Vlaicu airplane was in service in 1914 if it was destroyed in 1913?
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Cantacuzino |
Posted: November 24, 2009 02:45 am
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Hi bansaraba, It's about Vlaicu III airplane. ![]() This post has been edited by Cantacuzino on November 24, 2009 02:46 am |
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Radub |
Posted: November 24, 2009 09:30 am
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Vlaicu designed 3 aeroplanes. Vlaicu I = this was the first aeroplane made by Vlaicu. When Vlaicu died, this aeroplane was part of the funeral cortege, with the wings clipped to allow it to pass through some of the narrower streets of Bucharest. Vlaicu II = this was an improved version of the first aeroplane. This is the aeroplane that Vaicu died in. Vlaicu III = this aeroplane was under construction when Vlaicu died. It was completed some time later. So, in 1916, the Army had 2 Vlaicu aeroplanes, Vlaicu I and Vlaicu III. It is likely that the aeroplane on that list is, as Cantacuzino pointed out, the Vlaicu III aeroplane, because Vlaicu I was modified for the funeral. The fate of these aeroplanes is unknown. The best source on Vlaicu, his life and aeroplanes is the book "Vlaicu" by Dan Antoniu, published earlier this year. HTH Radu |
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bansaraba |
Posted: November 24, 2009 08:10 pm
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It was certainly seized by the Germans, as it was presented in a showroom in Berlin in 1942. Afterward, it was probably captured by the soviets, or perhaps destroyed during the WWII bombardments. |
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Radub |
Posted: November 24, 2009 10:16 pm
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Interresting. What is the source of this info? Is there any documentary or photographic evidence? Radu |
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bansaraba |
Posted: November 25, 2009 08:57 pm
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Several aviation officers declared in 1946 that they saw Vlaicu III in Berlin in 1942, in an aviation showroom, as an outstanding achievement of the beginnings of the aircraft industry. I read this in C. Gheorghiu, "Aurel Vlaicu, un precursor al aviatiei romanesti", Ed. Tehnica, Bucuresti, 1960.
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Dénes |
Posted: November 26, 2009 06:15 am
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You have to take what Mr. Gheorghiu - whom I had a chance to personally know - has written with a 'pinch of salt', as sometimes he was not properly informed, or based some of his conclusions on assumptions (e.g., the Focke-Wulf Fw 190 design was inspired by the I.A.R. 80).
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Cantacuzino |
Posted: November 26, 2009 10:41 am
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Probably the officers saw the Aviation Museum in Berlin wich had a rich collection of WWI and interwar aeroplanes exhibited. The museum was dispersed after a allied raids in 1943. Some aeroplanes were put in wood crates and sent in est germany (today in Poland). Later were found by polish and some of them were restored and exhibited in Cracovia aviation museum. About Vlaicu III, it is possible to check the list with all the planes from initial Berlin colection. |
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Dénes |
Posted: November 26, 2009 02:29 pm
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I had a chance to see that museum last month. Highly interesting exhibits (e.g., Me 209 record plane). You can even touch them (when nobody looks at you). ![]() Gen. Dénes |
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Ursulescu |
Posted: August 16, 2010 07:31 pm
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When they say "Neiuport", which ones are they referring to?
One of the games I own (Wings of War) puts Ion Muntenescu in a Neiuport 17, but the only info I can find (So Far) is that Romania used Neiuport 11's. Also, it says he shot down 2 Fokkers....but doesn't list which ones either. |
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