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johnny_bi
Posted: June 21, 2005 04:00 pm
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There is any information about the Romanians deported by the Soviets between August 1940 and June 1941? Numbers, destinations, fate ?
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Victor
Posted: June 21, 2005 05:52 pm
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In the last 4-5 issues of Magazin Istoric are the recollections of a Romanian school teacher about the June 1940 events, the following period when she continued to work and then the deportation in 1941. In the last part of the memoirs she had just arrived in Siberia and was assigned to a collective farm. It will be continued.

But others, considered more dangerous to the regime, were deported right away. One of my maternal grandmother's uncles was taken in the first day of the occupation and they never seen again. They only managed to find out that he was taken to Siberia from somebody that returned later.

Exact numbers are unfortunately hard to come by I believe. I don't think there have been any serious studies on the issue. I would also be curious to find out more.

During the war, the Romanian Army organzied the repatriation of several thousand Romanian ethnics deported to the Ukraine of the Caucasus during the Tsarist era.
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Posted: June 22, 2005 01:45 am
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During the war, the Romanian Army organzied the repatriation of several thousand Romanian ethnics deported to the Ukraine of the Caucasus during the Tsarist era.


I have read in one book that the Romanian soldiers were astonished to find entire Romanian villages in the area somewhere between North of Crimeea and Rostov also (Romanians deported during the Tsarist era)...
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Posted: June 22, 2005 05:08 am
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2,694 Romanians were repatriated from the Kuban, most of them from Moldovanskoe.

According to Armata Romana in al doilea razboi mondial (1941-45), Editura Enciclopedica, 1999, by October 1942, a total of 44,276 former inhabitants of Bessarbaia and Northern Bukovina have been repatriated in the rural area (490 deported, 10,631 that left for work, 25,851 mobilized in the Red Army, 7,300 that left willingly) and 9,385 in the urban area (6,368 mobilized, 1,841 that left willingly, 1,176 taken by force)
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Carol I
Posted: June 24, 2005 10:12 pm
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QUOTE (Victor @ Jun 21 2005, 06:52 PM)
... Romanian ethnics deported to the Ukraine of the Caucasus during the Tsarist era.

I have found a reference to this episode in the book Răsunete din Basarabia by Constantin Stamati-Ciurea (1828-1898). The author mentioned it as a colonisation program aimed at the landless peasants in Bessarabia in which each 'colonist' was offered 6 hectares and was freed of taxes for a period of 6 years.

Do you have further details on this displacement of population from Bessarabia to the Caucasus during the czarist period in Russia?
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Victor
Posted: July 04, 2005 05:11 am
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No, I unfortunately don't have.

I found a number of deportees for 1941 in a narticle in the ZIUA newspaper, written by George Damian:

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In 1941 au fost deportate 3470 de familii ale elementelor anti-sovietice" - 22648 de oameni.


Source: http://www.ziua.ro/display.php?id=179428&data=2005-06-28

But it has no references for the numbers.
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Posted: July 07, 2005 07:03 pm
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In 1941 au fost deportate 3470 de familii ale elementelor anti-sovietice" - 22648 de oameni.

"3470 families ... 22648 individuals" I think this is quite interesting as it gives on average 6.5 individuals per family. This suggests that the deportations were carried out primarily from the rural areas, as large numbers of children per family were a common occurrence there.

Am I wrong in my reasoning?
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